# The ultimate mmm-song pre-poll **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** music, mmm-song-poll\ **Created:** [December 26, 2023, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mmm-song-pre-poll/995159 "2023-12-26T12:18:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2023, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mmm-song-pre-poll/995159/1 "2023-12-26T12:18:00Z")
This poll will determine our 5 finalists for the Most Favoritest Doper Song.of All Time. These are our 33 finalists. This list contains the winner of each individual poll, plus 5 additional selections from the also-ran and wild card polls. You may select up to 6. _Poll ([view on site](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mmm-song-pre-poll/995159/1))_ ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2023, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mmm-song-pre-poll/995159/2 "2023-12-27T00:07:40Z")
Bump. Y’all know about this, right? It’s kind of important, Kronk! 😬 ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2023, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mmm-song-pre-poll/995159/3 "2023-12-27T12:37:52Z")
We really need a _Best/Favorite Song Released After 2000_ poll. I think “Under Pressure” is the most recent song in this poll and it’s from 1981. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2023, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mmm-song-pre-poll/995159/4 "2023-12-27T14:55:18Z")
That’s a great idea. The best song of the new century. Does that include the year 2000? Maybe @Mean_Mr.Mustard wiould be willing to set it up. He has a system. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2023, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mmm-song-pre-poll/995159/5 "2023-12-27T15:07:20Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Does that include the year 2000? Sure, why not. Especially given that we seem to struggle to find anything worthwhile from the mid-80s onward. ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2023, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mmm-song-pre-poll/995159/6 "2023-12-27T17:05:32Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > That’s a great idea. The best song of the new century. Does that include the year 2000? > > Maybe @Mean_Mr.Mustard wiould be willing to set it up. He has a system. Yes, great idea. I am fine running it once the current stuff is wrapped up. mmm ---
**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2023, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mmm-song-pre-poll/995159/7 "2023-12-27T22:12:53Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > We really need a _Best/Favorite Song Released After 2000_ poll. So would that include recent versions of older songs ? [Eg.](https://youtu.be/984ksjle4YA) ---
**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2023, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mmm-song-pre-poll/995159/8 "2023-12-28T00:38:57Z")
> [@pjd](#): > > So would that include recent versions of older songs ? This is a question that occurred to me as well. Would the candidates be restricted to new songs released/performed post December 31. 1999, or would older songs performed by performers debuting post December 31, 1999 be allowed? (I think older songs covered by performers that started in the 60’s through the 90’s would be against the spirit of the poll) I think the main issue will be keeping out older songs. Not submitted on purpose, but submitted because the poster is “sure it’s a song from this century” because that’s how they remember it. Policing the a-z polls was self evident, but we may have to have a team effort of all the posters to police this poll (which I am in favor of - our “ultimate poll” looks like someone just listed the most played songs on the local classic rock station) ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2023, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mmm-song-pre-poll/995159/9 "2023-12-28T00:53:55Z")
My thought is to allow only songs _written_ after 12/31/1999. But yeah, it would take a village to call out the ineligibles. mmm ETA: I’m not even sure how/where that can be easily verified. ---
**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2023, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mmm-song-pre-poll/995159/10 "2023-12-28T01:11:20Z")
> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#): > > My thought is to allow only songs _written_ after 12/31/1999. I’ve found it harder to identify when a song was written (and by who) than when it was first released, unless the song is well-known enough to have its own wiki page. Here’s a potential resource. I used it to remind me of a-z songs I liked, but never bothered to add to any playlists (the Songs selection is alphabetized). Based on my experience with the alphabetic list, the list of songs is large, but not comprehensive. > **[Songfacts - Browsing All Years](https://www.songfacts.com/browse/years)** > > List of Songfacts entries by Year ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2023, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mmm-song-pre-poll/995159/11 "2023-12-28T01:32:59Z")
I nominate Running Up That Hill, by Kate Bush! Oh no, sorry… ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2023, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mmm-song-pre-poll/995159/12 "2023-12-28T01:40:56Z")
First released on or after Jan 1st, 2000, and no covers. Seems simple enough. ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2023, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mmm-song-pre-poll/995159/13 "2023-12-28T11:37:17Z")
It’s not the requirements that are problematic, it’s the verification. mmm ---
**Author:** ![Moonrise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moonrise/32/14764_2.png) [@Moonrise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonrise)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2023, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mmm-song-pre-poll/995159/14 "2023-12-28T11:40:44Z")
Great, I was actually planning to do just that as I realized that there were many very good songs from the past 20+ years that I didn’t nominate. ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mmm-song-pre-poll/995159/15 "2023-12-29T00:41:04Z")
9 hours until poll close. I don’t want anyone to miss out. mmm ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mmm-song-pre-poll/995159/16 "2023-12-29T10:18:44Z")
Ask people to post the year of release with each song they nominate. It will make it easier for us (collectively) to police. Also, there will undoubtedly be some unintended covers nominated; sometimes it’s hard to tell if songs are new or rehashed. If you want to ~~drag it out~~ extend the game further you could break it into decades: 2000-2009, 2010-2019, and 2020-2023 (nominating three songs rather than five for the last one). Could even do 1990-1999 if you’re feeling frisky. If you don’t want to do that, it’s cool - I don’t want you to feel like I’m assigning homework. ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mmm-song-pre-poll/995159/17 "2023-12-29T12:03:03Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Ask people to post the year of release with each song they nominate. It will make it easier for us (collectively) to police. Also, there will undoubtedly be some unintended covers nominated; sometimes it’s hard to tell if songs are new or rehashed. I like this and I think I’ll roll with it after the New Year. I will totally have to be a team policing effort as I am pretty deficient in my knowledge of what the kids are listening to these days. _Taylor who??_ mmm ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mmm-song-pre-poll/995159/18 "2023-12-29T12:03:50Z")
[Final poll is up.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-mmm-song-poll/995308) mmm ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2024, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mmm-song-pre-poll/995159/19 "2024-02-07T12:26:54Z")
Just to check: I haven’t missed the start of your new polls, have I? Do give us a heads-up if and when you do please. ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2024, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mmm-song-pre-poll/995159/20 "2024-02-07T12:46:57Z")
Nah, you didn’t miss anything, I’ve just been busy with stuff. It will happen. mmm [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mmm-song-pre-poll/995159.md?page=2)