# The Ultimate MST3K Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 2, 2005, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555 "2005-06-02T15:40:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2005, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/241 "2005-06-29T15:39:51Z")
That is the only season 1 episode I’ve ever seen. A few thoughts: -Gypsy appears in the theather to manufacture cotton for Joel and the bots. It doesn’t go well. Is this Gypsy’s first appearance in the theather? -In a host segement Gypsy’s woes continue as she start manufacturing whatever Tom says, including another Tom Servo. Is this the first of many multiple Toms? -Mamie Van Hooter, I mean, Mammeries McLarge-Chest, I mean, the star of the movie. I never thought a woman could look hot in the ass flattening constricting pants of that era. Yowza, indeed. -During the musical numbers they riff on hearing instruments that aren’t there (Stop playing your sternum like a guitar!). Is this the first time they do that? It comes back again in other experiments, like er… the one with the dancer and the drugged up dancer and the greasy guy and the guy that looks like Regis Philben. -Joel seemed really out of it during the Greg Brady tribute. I know that he was tired throughout that season and that was probably whipped up on the spot, but he seemed borderline drunk there. I’ve seen Master Ninja I, so I know that he gets better, but is he like that throughout the first season? ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2005, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/242 "2005-06-29T15:50:27Z")
> [@Wolfian](#): > > That is the only season 1 episode I’ve ever seen. A few thoughts: > > -Gypsy appears in the theather to manufacture cotton for Joel and the bots. It doesn’t go well. Is this Gypsy’s first appearance in the theather? It’s first or second. I have a problem sometimes with memories that are similar running together. I believe it’s the first. I thought about including it in my footnotes. > [@](#): > > -In a host segement Gypsy’s woes continue as she start manufacturing whatever Tom says, including another Tom Servo. Is this the first of many multiple Toms? I also thought about including this. I think it is. However, Joel notes in the theatre that the other has been dismantled. Not necessarily an obstacle for the durable Tomwinkle, though. > [@](#): > > -During the musical numbers they riff on hearing instruments that aren’t there (Stop playing your sternum like a guitar!). Is this the first time they do that? It comes back again in other experiments, like er… the one with the dancer and the drugged up dancer and the greasy guy and the guy that looks like Regis Philben. Not exactly. It’s the first time they do it to someone miming playing an instrument, however, another “music that isn’t there moment” in the film - a comment near the beginning about the girls not getting in the back of the police car because the jazz combo is back there - is not wholly original to this episode, and they’d used similar comments before. (Lots and lots in Moon Zero Two). > [@](#): > > -Joel seemed really out of it during the Greg Brady tribute. I know that he was tired throughout that season and that was probably whipped up on the spot, but he seemed borderline drunk there. I’ve seen Master Ninja I, so I know that he gets better, but is he like that throughout the first season? He did, and I thought it was sort of flat as a bit, anyway. And wondered what the heck they were humming. During the first season, I’d say Joel’s as often sleepy-seeming as he was in later seasons, for me. About 50/50. ---
**Author:** ![want2know](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@want2know](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/want2know)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2005, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/243 "2005-06-30T18:41:33Z")
> [@](#): > > He did, and I thought it was sort of flat as a bit, anyway. And wondered what the heck they were humming. During the first season, I’d say Joel’s as often sleepy-seeming as he was in later seasons, for me. About 50/50. If you remember Joel’s pre-MST appearances on SNL (remember “Agent J”?), the sleepy act was part of his schtick. I’m not sure if it was due to any outside influences or just an act, but it definitely became less pronounced as MST progressed. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2005, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/244 "2005-07-03T07:59:50Z")
> [@want2know](#): > > Trivia question: What is the only movie MST did that was nominated for an Academy Award? Well? What was it? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2005, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/245 "2005-07-03T08:28:06Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > Well? What was it? I think \*\*want2know \*\* missed something there. Maybe he/she was talking about _Marooned_ (1969). It was nominated for Best Cinematography and Best Sound. However, It won the Oscar for Special Visual Effects! ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2005, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/246 "2005-07-03T08:35:09Z")
I see. Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2005, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/247 "2005-07-03T08:41:14Z")
I watched the MST3Ked Gamera last night. I haven’t seen that for years. Who were these Japanese monster movies marketed too? Kids? They’re all so stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2005, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/248 "2005-07-03T08:53:39Z")
> [@want2know](#): > > I have to recommend **The Amazing Colossal Man** and **War of the Colossal Beast**. Bert I Gordon films are lotsa fun to begin with; add their riffing _and_ **Mr. B Natural** and I think any MST newbie will be hooked! Then hit 'em with **The Magic Sword** and the indoctrination is complete! All it takes is the **Leech Woman**. _Neil!_ ---
**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2005, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/249 "2005-07-03T18:24:42Z")
> [@Seven](#): > > I watched the MST3Ked Gamera last night. I haven’t seen that for years. > > Who were these Japanese monster movies marketed too? Kids? They’re all so stupid. Hey, have you seen the trailer for _Stealth_? They’re not any stupider than that. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2005, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/250 "2005-07-03T19:35:28Z")
> [@cbawlmer](#): > > Hey, have you seen the trailer for _Stealth_? They’re not any stupider than that. Come now. While Stealth is going to suck its’ no Prince of Space or Invasion of the Neptune Men. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2005, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/251 "2005-07-03T20:23:22Z")
> [@Wolfian](#): > > Come now. While Stealth is going to suck its’ no Prince of Space or Invasion of the Neptune Men. Now, _The Island_, on the other hand… ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2005, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/252 "2005-07-04T02:33:02Z")
Back form my little vacation, ready and rarin to go - will try to wrap season one ASAP. ---
**Author:** ![want2know](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@want2know](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/want2know)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2005, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/253 "2005-07-04T23:33:18Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > I think \*\*want2know \*\* missed something there. Maybe he/she was talking about _Marooned_ (1969). It was nominated for Best Cinematography and Best Sound. > > However, It won the Oscar for Special Visual Effects! That is the one I was thinking of.I missed something?? I posted that question 2 weeks ago! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2005, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/254 "2005-07-04T23:47:22Z")
**MST3K 1.13 - Black Scorpion** Ah, Mexico. Such a wonderful country, with a strong cinema community. Heh. The boys pull another amusing sight gag out this time, roasting giant hotdogs over the open fires of an onscreen volcano. Riffs about golf and Jacques Cousteau abound, and Crow busts out his well-done Bing Crosby impression several times. There’s also a bit with a game-show style riff on the discovery of a dead body that nearly killed me. Signature Riff: \ : I’ll just move this high voltage power line with this piece of metal. Just let me dip it in water first… \*\*MST3K Season One - In Review \*\* It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. From a backward perspective, … I can’t see the TV. But looking back, it was definitely a rough prototype era for the show, still finding it’s “voice”, so to speak. Still, there are a couple of gems there. I noticed many things that would disappear later, including the bots’ eating of RAM chips, Joel getting a treat for hitting the commercial sign button, Dr. Erhardt, Servo’s original voice, and a couple of oddities on the robots themselves. (Servo’s shoulders look weird, and Crow’s jaw is at an angle.) Most interesting to me was the semi-tradition of “Good thing, bad thing” where Joel quizzes the robots on things they liked and disliked about the movie. So now, I move onward - to Season Two. ---
**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2005, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/255 "2005-07-05T02:45:51Z")
> [@Wolfian](#): > > Come now. While Stealth is going to suck its’ no Prince of Space or Invasion of the Neptune Men. Of course not, since those movies have charm. And they star a very young Sonny Chiba! ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2005, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/256 "2005-07-05T06:36:07Z")
> [@CandidGamera](#): > > I noticed many things that would disappear later, including the bots’ eating of RAM chips, Joel getting a treat for hitting the commercial sign button, Dr. Erhardt, Servo’s original voice, and a couple of oddities on the robots themselves. (Servo’s shoulders look weird, and Crow’s jaw is at an angle.) > > Most interesting to me was the semi-tradition of “Good thing, bad thing” where Joel quizzes the robots on things they liked and disliked about the movie. > > So now, I move onward - to Season Two. Incidentally, IIRC, all of those things were present in season “zero” - the season they did on local cable before they were picked up nationally. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2005, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/257 "2005-07-06T01:55:43Z")
So I just finished watching #519 - Outlaw, one of my favorites. It’s based on the Gor novels of John Norman, and it’s crappy fantasy/sci-fi at its worst. Everyone’s dressed entirely in strategically placed leather straps, except for the priest, played by Jack Palance (yes, THAT Jack Palance), who wears robes and the silliest damn hat ever committed to film (some of the hat jokes include: “Say, you want a popover?” and “Hang on, my seed pod is opening.”) There’s so much skin that this is the episode with the infamous “Tubular Boobular” song, which, for my money, is the all time funniest song they ever did. The Jack Palance impressions alone make this worth watching, like the scene where he’s slowly walking off, and Mike in his best JP voice says, “Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’ve got to go rip my agent a new…” But the best joke? As the evil queen is carried in a litter past a rather phallic looking column, we get the following exchange: Tom: “Hey, that looks like…” Mike: “Not a word!” Tom: “Well, just that I envy that structure.” Crow: “It’s Dr. Freud’s office.” Mike, imitating the queen: “Oh, oh god, PLEASE invent the battery!” ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2005, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/258 "2005-07-09T00:37:40Z")
Wow, where to begin. We come in with the oft-seen “Turn Down Your Lights (Where Applicable)” bumper, and jump right in to the new credit sequence, featuring TV’s Frank, and higher production values. The set’s redesigned, too. As we peek in on Joel and the Bots, Joel is operating on Servo’s voice. (Kevin Murphy having assumed the role as of this episode). I also noticed that Crow and Tom’s designs had been updated somewhat - Crow’s funky jaw was under control, and Tom’s shoulders looked better. They call down to the Mads, and trainee Frank is on hand. In response to their query about Dr. Erhardt, we’re treated to a shot of his picture on a milk carton. In the theater, we get a bunch of Seahunt references, since the movie stars Lloyd Bridges. He picked the wrong week to stop paying his agent. Tom does well, but I can hear Kevin’s nose whistling into his microphone. The crusty old scientist in the movie becomes a quick contender for the John Agar Rambling Lecture award. Even better, in one of the host segments that brilliantly parodies the random chatter in the movie, we see three important things : a spaceship approaches the SOL, and Joel calls for “Rocket Number Nine” for the first time, indicating he wants an exterior view. Then the crew is contacted on the new Hexfield! And lastly, it’s Mike Nelson in his first onscreen appearance… as Valeria. From Robot Holocaust. Which means he’s in drag. Funny! Signature Riff : \" Cheezit, it’s an entire race of mimes, we gotta get back and warn Earth!" ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/259 "2005-07-11T13:16:31Z")
First, a note - if you folks are at all interested in these ongoing reviews, please reply to the thread, ask a question, make an observation, etc. I think it would be against the rules for me to continually bump my own thread - though this sort of thing might have an exception. I’ll email Dex and ask. Season Two seems to heavily feature Jerry and Silvia, the mole people neighbors of the Mads in Deep 13. We also seem to get a lot more skits withthe Mads, rather than just seeing them at the beginning and end. **MST3K 2.02 - Sidehackers** By airdate, this is the second episode commercially available; It’s in Collection Three. This movie’s mildly infamous, I’m to understand, because it had a horrible murder/rape scene in it that the crew didn’t discover until it was too late to change movies - they cut that scene from the show, of course, and watched their movies all the way through thereafter. They manage to have fun with it anyway - the field frolicking scene at the beginning is hilarity incarnate, and the main character’s moniker of ‘Rommel’ provides us with endless references to the Desert Fox. At one point, Cambot’s interposes a ‘Sidehacking Scoreboard’ which is a fairly unique gag for the show. We also hear what I think is the first reference to “McCloud!” in this one. Mike shows up in costume on the hexfield again, which notably has no iris yet. Signature Riff : \ : “For those of you playing along at home, Rita is dead.” **MST3K 2.03 - Jungle Goddess** Joel manages to amuse me with his Invention exchange here - a circular saw wired to a remote control car. We start off with a short - The Phantom Creeps, part one, starring Bela Lugosi, making his second MST appearance. Among his mad scientist achievements are mechanical spiders that wilt plants, and the goofiest looking robot, ever. One of the bit players in the credits has my name! Then we get into the horribly racist “white people in the jungle” movie. Starring George Reeves, AKA ‘Superman’. There was a great riff that caught me offguard - two people chatting, and Joel pipes in with “Saigon. I’m still in Saigon.” - whereupon I noticed the silhouette of the ceiling fan in the background, and split a gut. Outside the theater, we get to see some of Cambot’s attachments, and there’s a fun skit in that regard; in closing we get one of the funniest Joel skits I’ve ever seen - “My White Goddess”, a sitcom premised on the ending of the movie. This sketch is the ultimate genesis of Pearl’s later tendency to refer to Crow as ‘Art’. **MST3K 2.04 - Catalina Caper** Commercially available, on Collection One. This time, the Mads give me a hoot with their invention exchange, the “tank tops”. The movie is a psychadelic, fun sixties romp, and I mean that in the worst way. Tommy Kirk, our “hero”, resembles a weather-beaten Wil Wheaton. Little Richard makes a musical cameo, inspiring Joel to surmise that he might be “hopped up on goofballs”. Crow makes a couple of the usual Seahunt jokes (“By this time, my lungs were aching for air…”) and gets nixed both times. Outside the theater, the bots ask Joel to explain the 60’s, which Joel does not remember fondly. Most importantly, we get to hear Tom’s musically-expressed obsession with ‘Creepy Girl’. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/260 "2005-07-11T13:35:16Z")
> [@CandidGamera](#): > > By airdate, this is the second episode commercially available; It’s in Collection Three. This movie’s mildly infamous, I’m to understand, because it had a horrible murder/rape scene in it that the crew didn’t discover until it was too late to change movies - they cut that scene from the show, of course, and watched their movies all the way through thereafter. Wow! I didn’t know it happened while they were filming. Learn something new everyday. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555.md?page=14)