# The Ultimate MST3K Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 2, 2005, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555 "2005-06-02T15:40:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Icerigger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icerigger/32/432_2.png) [@Icerigger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icerigger)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2008, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/1061 "2008-05-09T13:26:22Z")

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Friends, Just a bump up and FYI. I could not read the entire thread and I don’t know if this has been mentioned lately but the DVD of the MST3K Movie is now again available.

> **[Amazon.com: Mystery Science Theater 3000: The Movie (Widescreen) : Michael J....](https://www.amazon.com/Mystery-Science-Theater-3000-Widescreen/dp/B0013527KC)**
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> Product Description From the makers of the highly successful cult classic TV series comes Mystery Science Theater 3000: The Movie—one of the most outrageous, most irreverent, and most hilarious big-screen spoofs ever! A mad scientist, in his...

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**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2008, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/1062 "2008-05-09T13:53:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Icerigger]  
Friends, Just a bump up and FYI. I could not read the entire thread and I don’t know if this has been mentioned lately but the DVD of the MST3K Movie is now again available.  
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I’m buying it now before the pull it for some reason!

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**Author:** ![karcreat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@karcreat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/karcreat)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2010, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/1063 "2010-12-28T11:14:49Z")

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OK…

In the opening credits sequence for series ten, does anyone know what the opposing signs say (the ones ‘opposite’ the signs that read ‘TIME’ and ‘SPACE’, right at the beginning? I’ve tried doing slow mo, stills, etc…too fuzzy to read them…

Thanks in Advance!

-K

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/1064 "2010-12-30T04:11:00Z")

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> [@karcreat](#):
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> OK…
> 
> In the opening credits sequence for series ten, does anyone know what the opposing signs say (the ones ‘opposite’ the signs that read ‘TIME’ and ‘SPACE’, right at the beginning? I’ve tried doing slow mo, stills, etc…too fuzzy to read them…
> 
> Thanks in Advance!
> 
> -K

Wow, this takes me back - I don’t know off the top of my head, but maybe I can take a look in the next couple of days..

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**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/1065 "2011-01-22T05:34:29Z")

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> [@karcreat](#):
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> OK…
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> In the opening credits sequence for series ten, does anyone know what the opposing signs say (the ones ‘opposite’ the signs that read ‘TIME’ and ‘SPACE’, right at the beginning? I’ve tried doing slow mo, stills, etc…too fuzzy to read them…
> 
> Thanks in Advance!
> 
> -K

I cannot be absolutely certain, but it appears to me that the opposing signs also read ‘TIME’ and ‘SPACE.’

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**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/1066 "2011-01-22T05:53:34Z")

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Just looked. Definitely, “Time” “Space”.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/1067 "2011-01-22T13:48:08Z")

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Who did Joel have a disagreement with that caused him to leave the show? He mentions it in the above linked interview.

It wasn’t Mike Nelson, was it? They appear together later when Joel returns to the SoL briefly.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/1068 "2011-01-22T15:40:52Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Who did Joel have a disagreement with that caused him to leave the show? He mentions it in the above linked interview.
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> It wasn’t Mike Nelson, was it? They appear together later when Joel returns to the SoL briefly.

Apparently it was a dispute with Jim Mallon over creative control, according to an interview Joel did with the Onion A.V. Club.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/1069 "2011-01-22T17:42:41Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Apparently it was a dispute with Jim Mallon over creative control, according to an interview Joel did with the Onion A.V. Club.

I see. Looks like it was over the movie, for some reason. Did Joel _not_ want to make a movie? Mike obviously did…since they did.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2011, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/1070 "2011-01-22T17:50:07Z")

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[The Onion AV Club interview](http://www.avclub.com/articles/joel-hodgson,13595/) with Joel, if anyone’s interested.

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/1071 "2011-01-23T01:26:46Z")

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This thread has inspired me to watch Zombie Nightmare tonight.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2011, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/1072 "2011-01-24T02:31:18Z")

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> [@Hypno-Toad](#):
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> This thread has inspired me to watch Zombie Nightmare tonight.

I watched it today and remembered that I had seen it when I was younger. It’s an excellent episode.

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**Author:** ![supermariofan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@supermariofan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/supermariofan)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/1073 "2011-06-15T04:35:01Z")

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If this show comes back i hope they do:  
Paul Blart Mall Cop  
Super Mario Bros  
The Good Son  
Meet the Fockers  
Yours Mine and Ours (2005 version)  
Godzilla (1998 version)  
The Razor’s Edge  
Swing Vote  
The Happening  
The Cat in the Hat  
Master of Disguise  
The Waterboy  
Old Dogs  
Bewitched  
Alone in the Dark  
The Wicker Man (2006 version)  
Waterworld  
The Mummy Tomb of the Dragon Emperor  
Inspector Gadget  
The Pagemaster  
Jaws 3  
Zeus and Roxanne  
The Number 23  
Congo

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/1074 "2011-06-15T13:05:53Z")

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> [@supermariofan](#):
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> If this show comes back i hope they do:  
> Paul Blart Mall Cop  
> Super Mario Bros  
> The Good Son  
> Meet the Fockers  
> Yours Mine and Ours (2005 version)  
> Godzilla (1998 version)  
> The Razor’s Edge  
> Swing Vote  
> The Happening  
> The Cat in the Hat  
> Master of Disguise  
> The Waterboy  
> Old Dogs  
> Bewitched  
> Alone in the Dark  
> The Wicker Man (2006 version)  
> Waterworld  
> The Mummy Tomb of the Dragon Emperor  
> Inspector Gadget  
> The Pagemaster  
> Jaws 3  
> Zeus and Roxanne  
> The Number 23  
> Congo

I think the chance of a return of MST3K is slightly south of zero, but good news - there’s RiffTrax, which allows them to tackle some of the movies you mentioned.

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**Author:** ![Pushkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@Pushkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pushkin)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/1075 "2011-06-15T14:24:50Z")

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> [@CandidGamera](#):
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> there’s RiffTrax, which allows them to tackle some of the movies you mentioned.

A sample of their take on the Wickerman (2006).

EDIT: [Here’s the sample](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTZj6gnrVPU).

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/1076 "2011-06-15T17:19:45Z")

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Maybe we need The Ultimate Rifftrax Thread. But I have really only seen the shorts and the live shows. So it would have to be someone else’s baby.

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**Author:** ![supermariofan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@supermariofan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/supermariofan)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/1077 "2011-06-16T18:01:41Z")

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> [@CandidGamera](#):
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> I think the chance of a return of MST3K is slightly south of zero, but good news - there’s RiffTrax, which allows them to tackle some of the movies you mentioned.

But mst3k is way better than rifftrax and cinematic titanic

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/1078 "2011-06-16T18:08:56Z")

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> [@supermariofan](#):
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> But mst3k is way better than rifftrax and cinematic titanic

A matter of opinion (I’ve never experienced CT)…but good Rifftrax is easily as good as good MST3K, IMHO. And since they’re not limited to bad movies, the movies themselves are watchable.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/1079 "2011-06-16T18:20:40Z")

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> [@supermariofan](#):
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> But mst3k is way better than rifftrax and cinematic titanic

Well, I did like having the little silhouettes, but mst3k and rifftrax have about equal quality riffing. It’s a lot of the same people…who would be on the show if it came back.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-ultimate-mst3k-thread/306555/1080 "2011-06-16T18:37:57Z")

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Rifftrax is Joel’s project and CT is Mike’s, right?

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