# The Unified-Field Theory Solved.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 25, 2001, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639 "2001-09-25T05:24:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Hiyruu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@Hiyruu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hiyruu)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/1 "2001-09-25T05:24:47Z")

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The theory proposes that mass is defined by inertia (spin) as waves converge and are stored. Therefore we must ask, what is the optimal model for inertia to be stored?

The answer is a scalar-path, that permits non-destructive interference between converging waves, and the only spiral/path that permits non-destructive wave interference is 0.618… (The golden ratio). The golden ratio is the only ratio that allows scale to change while keeping proportion the same.

Thus we define gravity as that which permits waves to converge non-destructiveley and thus gain inertia/mass.  
So instead of E=MC^2 we have G=C_PHI^n.  
Quote from Dan Winter, 'Has E=MC^2 been replaced by Gravity=Light_PHI^n?’

> [@](#):
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> (G=C_PHI^n) Gravity=Light_Phi Power^n  
> Inertia (or mass) becomes a wave attractor (or gravitational) when it is recursive.
> 
> Gravity=Charge become fractal.
> 
> Gravity=permission for waves to create the centering force which happens in the PHI geometry of embedding.
> 
> The amount of gravity in any wave system=the amount of recursion between it’s macro and it’s micro structure.
> 
> E=MC^2 only showed us that light traveling in a circle stores the inertia we had labeled mass.
> 
> G=C\*PHI^n shows us that recursion creates the (implosive) centering force which drew that light into the circle in the first place.
> 
> We have now learned that Gravity is created when light becomes recursive, or self-embedded, or enters into PHI geometry.

This is quoted from Dan Winter, ‘The Physics of Phi’.

> [@](#):
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> The Physics of Phi
> 
> It is the nature of waves when they meet in the universal compressible substrate to beat and interfere. The key to compression/implosion is how these waves can interfere infinitely with never any destructive loss of inertia, spin, and pattern. Otherwise spin and pressure density is not self organizing or sustainable.
> 
> To understand waves optimizing spin density, we need only to ask the simplest question of waves beating: What is the geometry of all wave interference? All wave interference producing repeating additive heterodynes or beat nodes. As the heterodynes or beats of the wave interference repeats, the product of wave interference is therefore literally the addition and the multiplication of the parent waves.
> 
> There is only one singular geometry which permits wavelengths to add and multiply, and still yet all fit one nest: Each adjacent wave node allows approaching wave fronts to interfere only in the ratio .618033989…, thus producing heterodyne interference which continues to fit the nest infinitely inward and outward.
> 
> As each sine wave comes to a meeting point, the resultant pressure nodes radiate in nests which are both the arithmetic and geometric multiples of the source. The mathematics for this touch permissive geometry for waves is the infinite Golden Mean progression: .618033989… 1.000 1.618033989… 2.618033989… in which each number added to the next equals the following, and each number multiplied by 1.618033989… equals the following.
> 
> The issue for a wave really was how could the wave’s own inertia re-enter itself without destroying or canceling out itself. This could be called the angular relation necessary for self-reentry, or self-reference, or self-awareness. The angle of reentry which allowed this approach back into itself, is Phi. Literally this is the geometry of permission to be self aware for a wave. Mathematically, we might ask ourselves: what is the form of an equation which can re-enter itself infinitely, recursively?
> 
> We need to apply this mathematical ratio as the form of perfect self reference, to the wave mechanics which allow self-reference to become self-embeddedness, optimized spin density, perfect compression, and ultimately the wave form of perfect self awareness.
> 
> Wave mechanics essentially means that to understand waves is to understand mass. Mass is the inertia we measure when waves cross and store spin like a gyroscope. The difficulty in understanding the field among waves, as a unified field, becomes a problem in how to visualize and model implosion as the link between gravity and magnetism. The key to understanding implosion is to see that the geometry of implosion is everywhere the same. (It was failure to see the geometry of infinite implosion which caused Einstein heartache in understanding Black Holes and their relationship to time distortion.)
> 
> The inertia which waves store by virtue of their development of pattern out of the laws of symmetry is what we variously label as mass and as information and as we shall suggest, when the pattern is recursive, as self awareness.
> 
> Therefore any principle which enables waves to optimize spin density is the key to mass density, information density, and awareness density.
> 
> This is a geometry which permits waves to bounce down into a spiral vortex, infinitely maintaining the ratio between the legs of each bounce and the angle theta of each reflection off the curve. Think of light reflecting infinitely into the curve of a nautilus shell, never once finding itself bouncing back on itself in any way but with constructive interference.
> 
> Thinking in a kind of waves among jello, compression enabled destructive interference to be minimized, this helps us to see that this geometry is idealized translation of vorticity.
> 
> Translation of vorticity, inertia in circular motion, finds the path into a line, from motion in a circle. Remember, the inertia stored by waves moving in a circle is our only physical definition and way of measuring mass. Therefore, what we are describing here is literally the only permissive path to move from matter to energy and back. We will see why this is then the only path from electro -magnetism top gravity, because the wind we feel in the vortex of permission to implode is gravity. We will see this proven when we create a scalar wave, in the geometry of PHI, the Golden Mean, which creates the most perfect magnetic monopole, Einstein’s key to gravity.
> 
> The Golden Mean Ratio establishes the path mathematically, among wave forms called Perfect Damping. This means that the ratio by which you would self cancel wave inertia into literally a still point is established by Phi, the Golden Mean. Now let us consider what damping into a still point actually is. Visually, and as a wave function, it is literally a spin path to the zero point. The reason zero point energy is thought to be infinite is because spin density is potentially infinite as zero frequency is approached. Spin density equals information density. That is why fractal data is infinitely compressible.
> 
> Because the spin and information density is infinitely compressed at the zero point, the energy required to move the inertia of that spin wave pattern and information, also approaches zero! This means that infinite information becomes shareable with zero work or energy investment. This is why data compression (implosion) is the key to every computer information revolution. And later why this Phi recursion fractality in the EKG harmonics at the moment of compassion, proves that love is the ultimate solution to
> 
> the data compression issue.
> 
> The reason the Golden Mean geometry must be the origin of symbol and alphabet is linked closely to the significance of fractal recursion among wave forms in general.
> 
> Our very term for self-awareness as consciousness, directs our attention to the role of recursion in creating consciousness. Visualize donut fields nested one inside the other with concentric vortex throats. The scale of these wave forms can become by (Golden Mean) wave length ratio, recursive. This makes them into a fractal attractor for surrounding wave forms. This is what we have labeled conscious focus. In this way symbols get leverage to throw their weight around.
> 
> Visualize matter as a rather dense hologram of spin inertia fed wave forms. Visualize the optical cortex of the upper brain as a much less dense and rarefied potential hologram created by sparks dancing at the synapse. When the phenomenon of coherence occurs in the EEG, that hologram (a thought) has the potential to gain leverage on the dense hologram of which the brain and whatever the thought represents, is itself made. Only then can the symbol (& the mind it inhabits) participate in the world to which it points.
> 
> The crucial issue then is whether the SYMBOLIC hologram image is a true recreation of the folded surface shape in matter it is intended to represent. Remember that in a unified field, matter is only the memory of folds on a surface. The potential to become matter for a wave occurs when spin becomes coherent enough to store the inertia which we then measure and define as matter. Fractal symmetry is the enabler for this process of creation.
> 
> In order for symbols to work they need to aid in the process of creating the inner hologram in the brain as recursive of the SHAPE those symbols represent outside the membrane of the senses. Remember that in a unified field, matter is ONLY differentiated by SHAPE and not substance. Since the size of the brain limits the scale of what wave forms can form in the hologram there, only fractality or self-similar embeddedness of the “little inside the big”, solves the problem of scale which symbols must bridge.
> 
> So to create the necessarily fractal self-similar language of shape, symbolic alphabet itself must be the best creator of self-similar (fractal) embeddedness possible. When symbols permit the brain to create a fractal and self-similar representation of the wave shape of the object to which they point, then a potential phase lock is possible between the symbol and its object. This is the true physics of psychokinesis.
> 
> This is why the shaman uses some object whose shape is reminiscent (recursive/fractal) to the person or object which the mind must attach. Nature intended our thoughts to create wave shapes embedding us in our world. We evidence this with our measurements of compassion in EKG coherence phase locking fractally the ELF magnetism around a tree.
> 
> As is demonstrated in the way recursive squares create the Golden Mean array, the Golden Mean spiral is nature’s geometry of perfected embeddedness. As the outline of spiraling squares, spiraling triangles, or nested pentagrams, the Golden Mean spiral is the best fractal maker. That is how it inherently creates recursion and embeddedness. That is why our symbols are the nest of it’s shape laid around the donut of which every field effect is made.
> 
> A final note here is that gravity is created only to the extent the outer wave form of an atom or a planet, is recursive or fractal to the same geometry in it’s inside (as nuclear is to electron geometry for example, both are platonic). We label the wave implosion fractality creates as gravity. Symbols when fractal, or recursive, do take on weight.

So, our only definition of gravity/mass is that which allows waves to converge in-PHI-knitly. This solves Einstein’s dilema of how gravity is defined. It is a solution that shows that gravity is simply stored inertia.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/2 "2001-09-25T05:28:22Z")

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Dude, go easy on the 'shrooms – it’s a school night.

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/3 "2001-09-25T05:30:56Z")

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Dan Winter? Didn’t he play Mork & Mindy’s baby?

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/4 "2001-09-25T05:33:16Z")

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HEY! Aren’t you that guy on the usenet who works out long, elaborate, math-like formulas to explain all the details about the super powers of Marvel Comics Characters?

Fenris

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/5 "2001-09-25T05:42:49Z")

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Now, **Fenris** , let’s not be too harsh. **Hiryuu** is just trying to inform us that the greatest physics problem of the twentieth century has been solved. We should be thanking him. Lord knows that small-minded twit Stephen Hawking wasn’t getting anywhere with it.

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**Author:** ![Monster104](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Monster104](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monster104)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/6 "2001-09-25T05:57:55Z")

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Wow…you know…

I can ALMOST see the point…

I must be missing the key high…

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**Author:** ![edwino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@edwino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwino)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/7 "2001-09-25T06:37:08Z")

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Ya know, I can think of no better forum for solution to the Greatest Physics Problem[sup]TM[/sup] of all time than Mundane Pointless Stuff I Must Share.

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**Author:** ![gypsy\_gurl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@gypsy\_gurl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gypsy_gurl)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/8 "2001-09-25T06:41:28Z")

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Damn it, **hiyruu** I was _just_ gonna post that! [evil villian voice]You may have one this battle SwollenForeheadManWithToMuchTimeOnYourHands, but I’ll get you in the end [enter evil echoing chuckle here] [/ evil villian voice]

p.s. congrats on 2000 posts **monster**

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**Author:** ![atypicalcarl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/73ab20/32.png) [@atypicalcarl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atypicalcarl)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/9 "2001-09-25T07:00:46Z")

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Thanks, Hiyruu. That was the one equation I lacked.

Now I’m going to take over the world…

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**Author:** ![Dijon\_Warlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a9a28c/32.png) [@Dijon\_Warlock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dijon_Warlock)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/10 "2001-09-25T09:35:20Z")

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My body has become weightless.

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**Author:** ![Oicu812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f475e1/32.png) [@Oicu812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oicu812)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/11 "2001-09-25T10:59:16Z")

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[Brain]Pinky, are you thinking what I’m thinking?[/Brain]

[Pinky]Wot? Coating myself in mayonnaise and rolling in saran wrap? [/Pinky]

[Brain]No, No Pinky. I will pretend to solve the Unified Field Theory with meaningless quotes from pseudo science! When the top thinkers flock to my door, I will kidnap them and TAKE OVER THE WORLD! [/Brain]

[Pinky]Narf! Pass me the jar opener, Brain![/Pinky]

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**Author:** ![Damhna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Damhna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damhna)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/12 "2001-09-25T11:05:53Z")

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Stephen Hawk …WHO ???

We are in the presence of true genius.  
On your knees people.

Why only the other week this guy solved the problem of [Travelling fater than the speed of light](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=85234) for us.

Can someone stop the guy before he burns out that big ol brain of his?

Please tell me its not too late

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**Author:** ![headshok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e56c9b/32.png) [@headshok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/headshok)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/13 "2001-09-25T11:43:10Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> The Unified-Field Theory Solved

Oh, thank God! Now all those physicists can start working on important stuff, like transporter beams and warp drives and why my dog has a disturbing affinity for his own poo.

Well, what are you guys waiting for? Chop-chop!

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/14 "2001-09-25T12:31:33Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by woodstockbirdybird \*  
> \*\*Now, **Fenris** , let’s not be too harsh. **Hiryuu** is just trying to inform us that the greatest physics problem of the twentieth century has been solved. We should be thanking him. Lord knows that small-minded twit Stephen Hawking wasn’t getting anywhere with it. \*\*

I wasn’t entirely kidding. I dug up one of the usenet’s guy’s posts, where he elaborately details his “theories”.

> [@](#):
>
> If a spider has an IQ of 5, assuming a gorilla has  
> an IQ of 1 { assuming a baboon has an IQ of 2 or a  
> life-force of 0.2 Psyche }, then a spider should have  
> an intuition of Class 10 [Good], compared to a money  
> of Class 2 [Feeble]. If iq = 20_x, where x = (i/2),  
> where i = intuition. IF iq = 10_i ; i = (iq/10). Then,  
> i = (5/10) = 0.5 which is = 0.25 points of Psyche  
> or life-force. 0.25 points of life-force is = to  
> having knowledge of [60\*y], where y = 0.25, giving  
> the spider knowledge of 15 college credits by the  
> time it dies.
> 
> # Note : By this analysis, a whale would han an iq of 7.
> 
> THEN, a gorilla with an IQ of 1 would having intuition  
> of i = (1/10) or 0.1 which would give it knowledge of  
> [60_y], where y = 0.1, giving it knowledge of 6 college  
> credits by the time it dies through old age. But, a  
> chimpanzi with an iq of 0.5 or (1/2) that of a gorilla  
> would have knowledge of 3 college credits by the time  
> it dies through old age, by [60_y], where y = i =  
> (0.5/10) = 0.05, where i = intuition. Life-force in points  
> of Psyche = (i/2) so then, a gorilla would get 0.125 points  
> of Psyche & a chimpanzi with an Psyche of 0.0625 points  
> or 0.0625 points of life-force.
> 
> If Math is the end product, then Physics &  
> Psychology are interlinked at every level within  
> parameters of the average observer. Could fractals  
> be subatomic creatures with properties similar to

(Note, I didn’t cut it off, his posts just end there).

And don’t be fooled. This stuff sounds like he’s RPGing, but he _believes_ in what he posts and applies these formulae-like things to all sorts of real world situations.

And I think the writing styles are remarkably similar.

So, **Hiyruu** , **ARE** you **C2/tsr0**?

Signed,

A Fan

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**Author:** ![THespos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@THespos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/THespos)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/15 "2001-09-25T12:35:36Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by headshok \*
> 
> Oh, thank God! Now all those physicists can start working on important stuff, like transporter beams and warp drives and why my dog has a disturbing affinity for his own poo.

And I’d like to suggest, that when those physicists finish up, that they strap a warp nacelle to **Hiyruu’s** ass and aim it at the sun.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/16 "2001-09-25T12:59:13Z")

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Don’t forget his other name, Fenris… C++

I think you’re right. I think it’s the same guy…

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**Author:** ![Zanshin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e274bd/32.png) [@Zanshin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zanshin)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/17 "2001-09-25T13:53:03Z")

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You’re right – some of his mindless gobbledygook does come from RPGs. Specifically:

> [@](#):
>
> If a spider has an IQ of 5, assuming a gorilla has  
> an IQ of 1 { assuming a baboon has an IQ of 2 or a  
> life-force of 0.2 Psyche }, then a spider should have  
> an intuition of Class 10 [Good], compared to a money  
> of Class 2 [Feeble]. If iq = 20_x, where x = (i/2),  
> where i = intuition. IF iq = 10_i ; i = (iq/10). Then,  
> i = (5/10) = 0.5 which is = 0.25 points of Psyche  
> or life-force. 0.25 points of life-force is = to  
> having knowledge of [60\*y], where y = 0.25, giving  
> the spider knowledge of 15 college credits by the  
> time it dies.

The ‘Class 10 (Good)’ reference comes from the old Marvel Super Heroes RPG published by TSR – characteristics had a numerical value (typically between 1 and 10) and a descriptor (a value of 6 was Typical, 10 was Good, 40 Incredible, 100 Unearthly, et cetera). How that relates to actual intelligence, the speed of light, or whatever Theory of the Week™, I have **NO** idea.

\</end nitpick\>

Reading that guy’s posts is like trying to make sense out of a bowl of Alpha-Bits, I swear.

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**Author:** ![Slip\_Mahoney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@Slip\_Mahoney](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slip_Mahoney)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/18 "2001-09-25T15:30:41Z")

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Well, I got my slide rule right here (it’s the latest model), and your equations lead to the conclusion that protons do not decay, but that’s only true if they’re kept in the fridge.

I don’t know how you got that 4 quarks equal a galleon and that gluons have a spin of less than none. The rest makes perfect sense, though.  
Just kidding. It’s gibberish. All of it.

Turn yourself in before you trip over a super sting and hurt yourself. They’ll give you a nice room and lots of drugs.

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**Author:** ![Slip\_Mahoney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@Slip\_Mahoney](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slip_Mahoney)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/19 "2001-09-25T15:35:32Z")

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Alright, which one of you mods edited out the “r” in super string?

Fess up. I never make a mistake.

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/20 "2001-09-25T16:35:11Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*\*Therefore any principle which enables waves to optimize spin density is the key to mass density, information density, and awareness density. \*\*

“You are my density.”

NOT

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