# The Unified-Field Theory Solved.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 25, 2001, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639 "2001-09-25T05:24:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/41 "2001-09-26T12:57:11Z")

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> from Dan Winter, ‘Has E=MC^2 been replaced by Gravity=Light\*PHI^n?’

I have discovered a remarkable refutation for this, but unfortunately there is not enough bandwith on the server to contain it.  
To answer your question, in a word, no. now run along.

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**Author:** ![Why\_A\_Duck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@Why\_A\_Duck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Why_A_Duck)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/42 "2001-09-26T12:58:45Z")

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OMG. I want that book. From a reviewer over there:

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> I followed the directions, did the recommended 3 weeks fast, and cant stop shooting buckets of old black excrement! The sweet mucus wont stop either! I constricted anus everyday, followed by denting navel 100 times after constricting anus 100 time in the style of the longed lived british, and the flow of sweet hot mucus from my third attention wont stop! I do feel less depressed however, so the book gets 5 stars.

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**Author:** ![slortar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@slortar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slortar)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/43 "2001-09-26T13:15:24Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Fenris \*  
> \*\*Ok, I’ve read more of tsr0’s usenet posts, and retract the assertion that Hiyruu is him. There are stylistic differences that cannot be reconciled. However, **Waverly** ’s post rang a bell and a little searching turned up this:  
> [How to Good-Bye Depression : If You Constrict Anus 100 Times Everyday. Malarkey? or Effective Way](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0595094724/002-4209036-2326469).
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> The writing style seems similar (I found the author’s homepage once), the “anus-contraction” theme is similar to one of your primary sources and, well, Hiyruu? _Are_ you a published author?
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> Enquiring minds want to know!
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> Fenris \*\*

Actually, I’m half convinced Hiryuu is really Alex Chiu. If you’re really nice to him, he might give you a couple of longevity rings and a teleportation device.

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**Author:** ![Slip\_Mahoney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@Slip\_Mahoney](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slip_Mahoney)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/44 "2001-09-26T13:43:18Z")

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Fun with math.

Here’s a little poser for you to solve, **Hiyruu**.

Choose a number between zero and nil. Multiply it by the length of a piece of string and subtract the diameter of a circle. Now divide by the square root of minus zilch.

Now you know how many people here are amazed by your theory.

And yes, by all means, let’s move this to Great Debates. This ranks right up there with mankind’s discovery of dirt.

By the way, what is your stance on animal rights? Should they be allowed to vote?

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**Author:** ![THespos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@THespos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/THespos)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/45 "2001-09-26T13:45:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Jack Batty \*  
> \*\*Fat chance, Shaggy. Twist up another one. \*\*

And if, whilst toking up, you somehow manage to discover all the remaining secrets of the universe, **Hiyruu** , I recommend you do what many stoners do:

1. Write it down.
2. See if it makes any sense whatsoever once you return from La-La Land.

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**Author:** ![Hiyruu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@Hiyruu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hiyruu)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2001, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/46 "2001-09-27T01:53:21Z")

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The fact remains that Phi is the only geometry that allows waves to add and multiply non-destructivley, and converge to create inertia.

These truths are well established. Do the research.

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**Author:** ![atypicalcarl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/73ab20/32.png) [@atypicalcarl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atypicalcarl)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2001, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/47 "2001-09-27T02:24:57Z")

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It’s your theory, _ **you** _ do the research.

Hint: If you have to use a Spiro-Graph[sup]TM[/sup], it ain’t research.

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**Author:** ![Hiyruu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@Hiyruu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hiyruu)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2001, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/48 "2001-09-27T07:34:50Z")

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> \*Originally posted by atypicalcarl \*  
> \*\*It’s your theory, _ **you** _ do the research.
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> Hint: If you have to use a Spiro-Graph[sup]TM[/sup], it ain’t research. \*\*

The golden ratio can be represented both numerically, and geometrically (Phi-Spiral).

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2001, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/49 "2001-09-27T09:37:27Z")

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“The Golden Ratio”? Does that have anything to do with two sex partners urinating on each other?

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2001, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/50 "2001-09-27T10:11:20Z")

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Dude,

1:1.617 cannot be represented by a spiral. It can be represented by a geometric patern, but what would make the resultant pattern any different than a pattern representing 1:3.14 ?

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**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2001, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/51 "2001-09-27T11:26:51Z")

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Well, what is this Unified Field Theory useful for?

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**Author:** ![Hiyruu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@Hiyruu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hiyruu)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2001, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/52 "2001-09-28T02:49:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by TwistofFate \*  
> \*\*Dude,
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> 1:1.617 cannot be represented by a spiral. It can be represented by a geometric patern, but what would make the resultant pattern any different than a pattern representing 1:3.14 ? \*\*

It’s 1.618, and of course it can be represented as a spiral!!! Geeez!

Look here: [http://galaxy.cau.edu/tsmith/KW/goldengeom2.html](http://galaxy.cau.edu/tsmith/KW/goldengeom2.html)  
The golden spiral is the only spiral that is truly ‘scalar’, which means as scale changes ratio stays the same, which allows ultimate compression of waves without destructive interference. This results in waves converging and gaining inertia/mass.

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**Author:** ![saepiroth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@saepiroth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saepiroth)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2001, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/53 "2001-09-28T03:00:56Z")

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mmm-HMMM…

well, the third part of my sig applies perfectly in this case…  
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**Author:** ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2001, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/54 "2001-09-28T03:04:36Z")

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Well, I guess this is better than loons measuring the inside of the pyramids for the date when World War I started, or the crackpots who believe in the Illuminati …

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2001, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/55 "2001-09-28T03:39:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ice Wolf \*  
> \*\*or the crackpots who believe in the Illuminati … \*\*

I’ll have you know that this organization does so exist! I’m a Third Stage – oh, wait, you aren’t allowed to hear this!

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**Author:** ![saepiroth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@saepiroth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saepiroth)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2001, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/56 "2001-09-28T03:42:24Z")

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ah HA!! i knew it!

get the sodium pentathol!

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**Author:** ![Caldazar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Caldazar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caldazar)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2001, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/57 "2001-09-28T05:32:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Hiyruu \*  
> [It’s 1.618, and of course it can be represented as a spiral!!! Geeez!
> 
> Look here: [http://galaxy.cau.edu/tsmith/KW/goldengeom2.html](http://galaxy.cau.edu/tsmith/KW/goldengeom2.html)  
> The golden spiral is the only spiral that is truly ‘scalar’, which means as scale changes ratio stays the same, which allows ultimate compression of waves without destructive interference. This results in waves converging and gaining inertia/mass. \*\*

First off, that’s the Spiral of Archemedes. Taking credit for others’ work is generally frowned upon in the scientific community.

Second, nowhere on that page is the number 1.618 mentioned in relation to the spiral.

Third, all spirals scale in the manner you describe.

Fourth, spirals are not waves.

Fifth, the entire “theory” is a load of crap. Nowhere is it explained how it the “theory” agrees with real life observations of gravity (given a mass, how strong a gravitational field should one expect?), how to apply the bogus “equation”, what the terms actually mean (G? Gravity Field? Force? Something else? C = speed of light, fine. Phi = “golden ratio”, n = ???). My original challenge to this “theory” still stands.

This theory is no more convincing or meaningful than the faster-than-light garbage you posted before. It’s all just mindless rambling.

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**Author:** ![Slip\_Mahoney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@Slip\_Mahoney](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slip_Mahoney)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2001, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/58 "2001-09-28T05:35:56Z")

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Talking to this guy is like arguing with a glass of water.

Save your strength.

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2001, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/59 "2001-09-28T05:37:59Z")

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I dunno, **Slip**. My glass of water rarely starts spouting off about “wave forms of perfect self-awareness”. But then, it went to public school.

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**Author:** ![Hiyruu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@Hiyruu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hiyruu)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2001, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unified-field-theory-solved/83639/60 "2001-09-28T08:50:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Caldazar \*  
> \*\*
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> > [@](#):
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> > \*Originally posted by Hiyruu \*  
> > [It’s 1.618, and of course it can be represented as a spiral!!! Geeez!
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> > Look here: [http://galaxy.cau.edu/tsmith/KW/goldengeom2.html](http://galaxy.cau.edu/tsmith/KW/goldengeom2.html)  
> > The golden spiral is the only spiral that is truly ‘scalar’, which means as scale changes ratio stays the same, which allows ultimate compression of waves without destructive interference. This results in waves converging and gaining inertia/mass. \*\*
> 
> First off, that’s the Spiral of Archemedes. Taking credit for others’ work is generally frowned upon in the scientific community.
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> Second, nowhere on that page is the number 1.618 mentioned in relation to the spiral.
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> Third, all spirals scale in the manner you describe.
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> Fourth, spirals are not waves.
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> Fifth, the entire “theory” is a load of crap. Nowhere is it explained how it the “theory” agrees with real life observations of gravity (given a mass, how strong a gravitational field should one expect?), how to apply the bogus “equation”, what the terms actually mean (G? Gravity Field? Force? Something else? C = speed of light, fine. Phi = “golden ratio”, n = ???). My original challenge to this “theory” still stands.
> 
> This theory is no more convincing or meaningful than the faster-than-light garbage you posted before. It’s all just mindless rambling. \*\*

Read this:[http://www.mcs.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/R.Knott/Fibonacci/phi2DGeomTrig.html](http://www.mcs.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/R.Knott/Fibonacci/phi2DGeomTrig.html) before you pretend to know what you are talking about.

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