# The Union's in a state

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unions-in-a-state/1027923>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 24, 2026, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unions-in-a-state/1027923 "2026-02-24T04:33:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unions-in-a-state/1027923/281 "2026-02-25T15:50:31Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Didn’t watch it, but after seeing photos of the hockey team acting like willing little props I wish the fuckers would have lost.

auston Matthews is not going to be well treated by Toronto Maple Leafs fans. The numbers saying “Fuck this guy” are legion.

In the next town over from me lives Lauren Holly, the actress, who’s from Pennsylvania, IIRC, but has lived in Canada quite some time and became a diehard, utterly insane Blue Jays and Leafs fan. She is openly debating on social media whether she wants to shred her Auston Matthews jersey or burn it. No Leafs fans are disputing she should do one or the other. Like, not one single objection.

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unions-in-a-state/1027923/282 "2026-02-25T15:50:37Z")

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Well, _yeah_ they’re _brown_ “people” who cares if they fish or eat for that matter? It’s funny don’t you get it? /s in case that wasn’t clear.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unions-in-a-state/1027923/283 "2026-02-25T15:51:09Z")

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> [@psychobunny](#):
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> here’s a guy who flew one of the helicopters into Venezuela despite being shot in the leg twice with blood pouring out and running down the aisle of the helicopter. He landed it despite having no use of his legs and took out the antiaircraft battery before collapsing Let’s give him a medal!

It was bad enough in his last term when he started using the Presidential Medal of Freedom as a political prop, giving one to Rush Limbaugh during a SOTU. But the Congressional Medal of Honor is special. Its prior recipients were honored for some truly hair-raising heroics.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unions-in-a-state/1027923/284 "2026-02-25T15:51:50Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> It was bad enough in his last term when he started using the Presidential Medal of Freedom as a political prop, giving one to Rush Limbaugh during a SOTU. But the Congressional Medal of Honor is special. Its prior recipients were honored for some truly hair-raising heroics.

Well it sounds like this chopper pilot was pretty heroic, I dunno. It’s not his fault the operation itself was bullshit.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unions-in-a-state/1027923/285 "2026-02-25T15:52:59Z")

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There are a lot of medals that can be given out for “pretty heroic” deeds. CMOH is usually for throwing yourself on a grenade, single-handedly charging German machine gun nests. Stuff like that.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unions-in-a-state/1027923/286 "2026-02-25T16:18:11Z")

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> [@psychobunny](#):
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> -not one illegal immigrant has entered the country since I became President

People say this (they come up to me with tears in their eyes, even!) and everyone seems to buy it, but is it even remotely true? And if so, _how?_ People have been illegally crossing the border since, oh, 1836, and nothing seems to have stopped them one bit. The border seems exactly like it has been - lack of constant fence, lack of security, lots of desert.

And yet the MAGAturds want to build a wall.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unions-in-a-state/1027923/287 "2026-02-25T17:33:18Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> There are a lot of medals that can be given out for “pretty heroic” deeds. CMOH is usually for throwing yourself on a grenade, single-handedly charging German machine gun nests. Stuff like that.

This is a little off topic, but I was talking to my dad recently and he mentioned that one of his flight instructors was a Medal of Honor winner.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unions-in-a-state/1027923/288 "2026-02-25T17:40:25Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> > [@psychobunny](#):
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> > -not one illegal immigrant has entered the country since I became President
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> People say this (they come up to me with tears in their eyes, even!) and everyone seems to buy it, but is it even remotely true?

If by “everyone” you mean “MAGA Morons”. No one else buys it.

It’s like his claims to have virtually eliminated drugs coming in by sea. Has anyone noticed any effects from that? Drugs costing more? Overdoses dropping precipitously? People going into withdrawal in record numbers? Anything?

It’s like everything else he puts a number to. Complete bullshit, to make him look awesome to the people licking his boots.

And it’s so pathetically obvious. And sad. If he made a slightly less grandiose pronouncement, like illegal border crossing were down 50%, it would still be self-serving bullshit, but it would be self-serving bullshit that you’d actually have to stop and think about, and do a bit of research to debunk. But this? Absurd on the face of it, to anyone not already shoulders deep in Trump’s ass.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unions-in-a-state/1027923/289 "2026-02-25T17:48:28Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> If he made a slightly less grandiose pronouncement, like illegal border crossing were down 50%, it would still be self-serving bullshit

Wouldn’t he claim that it was down something like 750% to 1300%?

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unions-in-a-state/1027923/290 "2026-02-25T18:03:35Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> If by “everyone” you mean “MAGA Morons”. No one else buys it.

Well, to be fair, I can’t prove it either way. I haven’t been to the border in a while. I couldn’t tell you if zero people a day cross, or 50K, or what. I’m trusting the people to report right (NOT MAGA!!!) plus “common sense”. If nothing has changed on border security, why would anyone believe illegal crossing has gone to zero? It makes no sense! No one wanting to cross is afraid of trump.

But even here in Arizona, most people have never been to the border. They have no idea. They believe what they are told. They think there is a wall on Mexico’s southern border, and five seconds of looking at Google maps would disprove that. But they believe.

But, in a way, so do I believe what I am told. I just use different sources. But, are they valid?

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unions-in-a-state/1027923/291 "2026-02-25T19:42:33Z")

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I understand that he made the speech so long in order to get back at Melania for having to sit through her movie.

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**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unions-in-a-state/1027923/292 "2026-02-25T19:49:58Z")

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Shred it, _then_ burn it. The shredding will make it burn faster!

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unions-in-a-state/1027923/293 "2026-02-25T20:31:02Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> In the next town over from me lives Lauren Holly, the actress, who’s from Pennsylvania, IIRC

She should call in NCIS.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unions-in-a-state/1027923/294 "2026-02-25T21:12:35Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I understand that he made the speech so long in order to get back at Melania for having to sit through her movie.

She was there? I was to understand she would just watch it later on the news.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unions-in-a-state/1027923/295 "2026-02-25T21:17:31Z")

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She was there, in the public gallery. She awarded a medal to a veteran.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unions-in-a-state/1027923/296 "2026-02-25T21:29:36Z")

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I think that was a robot. She does not look alive to me.

Never thought we’d have a Kabuki first lady.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unions-in-a-state/1027923/297 "2026-02-25T21:38:24Z")

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My wife watched it, thinking she knew what she expected, but felt obligated to just personally experience it to confirm her impressions. Fortunately, I was otherwise occupied from 7-9:30. As I drove home, I heard him on NPR. I got to hear him tell the helicopter pilot to “Come on down!” The fucking moron thinks he is running a game show! When I got home, my wife had turned it off in disgust.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unions-in-a-state/1027923/298 "2026-02-25T21:38:35Z")

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That was me making fun of the _Melania_ movie trailer where Trump asks her if she watched something and she said she’d watch it on the news. I thought it was her way of getting a jab in at Trump.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unions-in-a-state/1027923/299 "2026-02-25T21:48:37Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> The fucking moron thinks he is running a game show!

Someone said it wasn’t so much a State of the Union speech as an episode of “This is your life!”

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unions-in-a-state/1027923/300 "2026-02-25T22:13:19Z")

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His hair was pink for crissakes.

How can anyone look at an orange clown, with turkey neck and pink hair and believe any word he says?

He only lacked a red nose.

Also he was doing that weird suck in his spit thing. That was annoying.

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