# The Unitd States of Cunts **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 25, 2017, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unitd-states-of-cunts/780738 "2017-02-25T15:37:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unitd-states-of-cunts/780738/21 "2017-02-25T19:09:38Z")
Wait, is that an actual quote from the proceedings? Don’t want to crank up my WTF thermostat if not needed. Have to oil it every day as it is. ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unitd-states-of-cunts/780738/22 "2017-02-25T19:09:48Z")
Is that actually what happened? Does that actually sound plausible to you? ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unitd-states-of-cunts/780738/23 "2017-02-25T20:04:12Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > You actually think that dozens of thousands get 2 hour interrogations? Yes, I think so. I pulled the number out of my ass, but the idea stands. And to adress what Colibri said : I wasn’t thinking only of the USA. > [@](#): > > Can you explain why not a single person didn’t complain? How do you know that nobody complains? You think that you would hear about it some random unkown person did? But I’m sure indeed that the random nobody is vastly less likely to complain, because it would be pointless if not even counter-productive. Also, they won’t get apology letters. > [@QuickSilver](#): > > Another way to look at it is: > > A semi-celebrity highlights how anonymous people are treated every single day, thus exposing an issue. Yes. But it’s not like it’s the secret that plenty of people are treated like shit by border police. It simply usually don’t apply to semi-famous old ladies. > [@Colibri](#): > > She’s not any kind of “celebrity”, nor does she claim celebrity r entitlement. She’s a 70 year old trying to enter the USA. Yes, she is a 70 yo old lady from another western country. Just guess how a 20 something yo male from a brown country would have been handled. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unitd-states-of-cunts/780738/24 "2017-02-25T20:11:03Z")
[That’s about not semi-famous 70 yo white ladies.](https://www.aclu.org/files/assets/aclu_2012_cbp_abuse_complaint_2.pdf) For those who wanted complaints, you have several pages of them. At least she didn’t die. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unitd-states-of-cunts/780738/25 "2017-02-25T20:33:20Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > It doesn’t take very many, if the questioner doesn’t like the answers. > > “What is your name?” > “Mem Fox.” > “No, what’s your real name?” > “I already told you, it’s Mem Fox.” > “Shut up, we know you’re lying! Now tell us your real name, or we’re going to have to get tough on you.” > “Mem Fox is the only name I have. What more do you want?” Years ago, I heard a story about someone who was pulled over by the police in the early 70s and got some rough treatment, though his real name actually was Richard Nixon. Not surprisingly, that story is pretty difficult to Google. ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unitd-states-of-cunts/780738/26 "2017-02-25T20:37:52Z")
Note that those are all people entering at the U.S./Mexico border in the link that clairobscur gives. Fox was an Australian citizen traveling from Australia to Milwaukee who had just entered the U.S. at the L.A. airport. There was nothing in her background to suggest that she might cause trouble. Even if we were to grant that there are power-mad border guards at the U.S./Mexico border that like to harass people crossing the border there, why would they want to do it to Fox? What’s going on here? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unitd-states-of-cunts/780738/27 "2017-02-25T20:45:55Z")
> [@clairobscur](#): > > Yes. But it’s not like it’s the secret that plenty of people are treated like shit by border police. It simply usually don’t apply to semi-famous old ladies. > > Yes, she is a 70 yo old lady from another western country. Just guess how a 20 something yo male from a brown country would have been handled. So are you for or against border police treating people like shit? ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unitd-states-of-cunts/780738/28 "2017-02-25T20:59:42Z")
This just in. News that the Australian author may never return to the US has devastated the nation. Huge crowds are reported in all the major cities, gathering together ‘for consolation and support’. Many were sobbing uncontrollably while others shook angry fists at the sky as if to reproach the heavens. “Please please come back to us, Mem” was the universal cry. A visibly shaken President Trump told a grieving nation that he had personally fired all those responsible for this outrage and that he and all his Cabinet would be at the airport to humbly apologize to the author if she should choose to return. News of the incident sent stock markets tumbling world wide with one financier saying, This may be the worst crisis the markets have faced in … Enough already. What I’m trying to reflect is the pompous movie doubtless playing in this old biddy’s head in which people actually give a shit what she does or where she goes. ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unitd-states-of-cunts/780738/29 "2017-02-25T21:10:06Z")
> [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > She’s not any kind of “celebrity”, nor does she claim celebrity r entitlement. She’s a 70 year old trying to enter the USA. For the 116th time. Sad. ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unitd-states-of-cunts/780738/30 "2017-02-25T21:11:23Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > This just in. News that the Australian author may never return to the US has devastated the nation. Huge crowds are reported in all the major cities, gathering together ‘for consolation and support’. Many were sobbing uncontrollably while others shook angry fists at the sky as if to reproach the heavens. “Please please come back to us, Mem” was the universal cry. A visibly shaken President Trump told a grieving nation that he had personally fired all those responsible for this outrage and that he and all his Cabinet would be at the airport to humbly apologize to the author if she should choose to return. > > News of the incident sent stock markets tumbling world wide with one financier saying, This may be the worst crisis the markets have faced in … > > Enough already. What I’m trying to reflect is the pompous movie doubtless playing in this old biddy’s head in which people actually give a shit what she does or where she goes. Yeah! Who cares about stupid namby-pamby “civil liberties” and all that pointy-headed Poindexter bullshit! Terrorist-lovers, that’s who! Or what some stupid bunch of FOREIGNERS think about America! So, President Trump (MAGA!) pissed off the stupid President of Australia or whatever he’s called, and now this–who cares? [What’s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Australia_during_World_War_II) [Australia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia_in_the_Korean_War) [ever](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Australia_during_the_Vietnam_War) [done](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_contribution_to_the_1991_Gulf_War) [for](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Australia_during_the_War_in_Afghanistan) [us](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_contribution_to_the_2003_invasion_of_Iraq), [anyway](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes)? They’re not even Americans! America is the Greatest Country on Earth! We don’t need those stupid foreigners–we’ve got plenty of Brawndo! ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unitd-states-of-cunts/780738/31 "2017-02-25T21:23:35Z")
> [@MEBuckner](#): > > Yeah! Who cares about stupid namby-pamby “civil liberties” and all that pointy-headed Poindexter bullshit! Terrorist-lovers, that’s who! Or what some stupid bunch of FOREIGNERS think about America! So, President Trump (MAGA!) pissed off the stupid President of Australia or whatever he’s called, and now this–who cares? [What’s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Australia_during_World_War_II) [Australia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia_in_the_Korean_War) [ever](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Australia_during_the_Vietnam_War) [done](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_contribution_to_the_1991_Gulf_War) [for](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Australia_during_the_War_in_Afghanistan) [us](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_contribution_to_the_2003_invasion_of_Iraq), [anyway](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes)? They’re not even Americans! America is the Greatest Country on Earth! We don’t need those stupid foreigners–we’ve got plenty of Brawndo! Don’t forget… [QUOTE=Donald Trump] But there is no such thing as a global anthem, a global currency or a global flag. This is the United States of America that I’m representing. [/QUOTE] Just wait until he brings back the gold standard. That’s sure to be what makes America great again, right? ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unitd-states-of-cunts/780738/32 "2017-02-25T21:24:28Z")
That would be the USC. It’s actually the United States of Assholes. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unitd-states-of-cunts/780738/33 "2017-02-25T21:25:07Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > This just in. News that the Australian author may never return to the US has devastated the nation. Huge crowds are reported in all the major cities, gathering together ‘for consolation and support’. Many were sobbing uncontrollably while others shook angry fists at the sky as if to reproach the heavens. “Please please come back to us, Mem” was the universal cry. A visibly shaken President Trump told a grieving nation that he had personally fired all those responsible for this outrage and that he and all his Cabinet would be at the airport to humbly apologize to the author if she should choose to return. > > News of the incident sent stock markets tumbling world wide with one financier saying, This may be the worst crisis the markets have faced in … > > Enough already. What I’m trying to reflect is the pompous movie doubtless playing in this old biddy’s head in which people actually give a shit what she does or where she goes. We already know you’re a loathsome idiot; you didn’t have to post further evidence of it. ---
**Author:** ![Corry\_El](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Corry\_El](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corry_El)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unitd-states-of-cunts/780738/34 "2017-02-25T21:28:35Z")
> [@CoastalMaineiac](#): > > Badge heavy assholes that only seem to understand respect when they don’t get as much of it as they think they deserve. > > As someone who lives in a border state, I’ve crossed the northern border quite a few times. I’d go so far as to say that 99% of them were professional and courteous to me, but the assholes in that 1% really stand out, Both times I (US’ian) have crossed into Canada by road in last several years they gave me a hard time, and passive aggressive asshole type (yes, Canadians like Minnesotans or Wisconsinites, can be assholes politely 🙂 ). Nothing outrageous, surely within the rules, I didn’t collapse and weep later, but I really didn’t like it and I’m never going back. Don’t know why I attracted their attention, some good reason from their POV I assume, but again, no more. No idea what really happened with the Aussie author, not going to take media article’s word for it. But again, people are sensitive to it, naturally. You’re willing to be a polite and well behaved guest, you’re not expecting a red carpet, but it’s unpleasant when authorities give you a hard time. ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unitd-states-of-cunts/780738/35 "2017-02-25T21:35:21Z")
As the [piece I read](https://www.pedestrian.tv/news/arts-and-culture/us-apologises-to-legend-mem-fox-over-disgraceful-w/ead46696-0ae8-43eb-a23a-05803a27ade9.htm)said: > [@](#): > > Despite that objectively terrible experience, Fox also had time to recognise how much worse it could have been, saying “I am old and white, innocent and educated, and I speak English fluently." > > “Imagine what happened to the others in the room, including an old Iranian woman in her 80s, in a wheelchair." ---
**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unitd-states-of-cunts/780738/36 "2017-02-25T22:03:25Z")
There are, sadly, a number of people in this country who would consider a 20-year-old brown person being hauled over the coals for two hours to be one big yawn. Such people need a swift tap on the head with a clue-by-four. You can consider this story to be that tap. A lot of people who might respond to the Travel Ban by saying “well, it couldn’t happen to me, I’m not Muslim/Somali/politically active” have now been deprived of an excuse. Yes, it CAN happen to you. It would be nice if you had enough consideration for people of other nations and religions to consider it a problem when they get fucked about with, but if not, here’s a message you can understand. I want to send a copy of this story to every well-heeled retiree in this country currently contemplating their mid-year overseas holiday plans. “Well, gee Shirl, dunno if that American holiday looks so great any more. How about Paris? I hear Paris is nice in the summer. And they don’t frogmarch you to the interrogation room at the airport.” ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unitd-states-of-cunts/780738/37 "2017-02-25T22:19:11Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > This just in. News that the Australian author may never return to the US has devastated the nation. Huge crowds are reported in all the major cities, gathering together ‘for consolation and support’. Many were sobbing uncontrollably while others shook angry fists at the sky as if to reproach the heavens. “Please please come back to us, Mem” was the universal cry. A visibly shaken President Trump told a grieving nation that he had personally fired all those responsible for this outrage and that he and all his Cabinet would be at the airport to humbly apologize to the author if she should choose to return. > > News of the incident sent stock markets tumbling world wide with one financier saying, This may be the worst crisis the markets have faced in … > > Enough already. What I’m trying to reflect is the pompous movie doubtless playing in this old biddy’s head in which people actually give a shit what she does or where she goes. When it happens to you, I won’t need to be reminded not to give a rat’s ass. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unitd-states-of-cunts/780738/38 "2017-02-25T22:38:52Z")
They came for the highly successful children’s authors and I said nothing for I was not a highly successful children’s author… ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2017, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unitd-states-of-cunts/780738/39 "2017-02-25T22:46:20Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > This just in. News that the Australian author may never return to the US has devastated the nation. Huge crowds are reported in all the major cities, gathering together ‘for consolation and support’. Many were sobbing uncontrollably while others shook angry fists at the sky as if to reproach the heavens. “Please please come back to us, Mem” was the universal cry. A visibly shaken President Trump told a grieving nation that he had personally fired all those responsible for this outrage and that he and all his Cabinet would be at the airport to humbly apologize to the author if she should choose to return. > > News of the incident sent stock markets tumbling world wide with one financier saying, This may be the worst crisis the markets have faced in … > > Enough already. What I’m trying to reflect is the pompous movie doubtless playing in this old biddy’s head in which people actually give a shit what she does or where she goes. Have you ever considered _not_ being a piece of shit? Just to see what it feels like? ---
**Author:** ![Blinkyandpinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ad7895/32.png) [@Blinkyandpinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blinkyandpinky)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2017, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unitd-states-of-cunts/780738/40 "2017-02-26T00:04:03Z")
That author is an extremist and an advocate for multi culturalism. If she doesn’t like the USA and the current admin, then she should stay home in her own country. She wont be missed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unitd-states-of-cunts/780738.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unitd-states-of-cunts/780738.md?page=3)