The Unitd States of Cunts

[Sunny_Daze]

Thread please?

[Chimera]

The Alt-Left thread.

[SteveG1]

@Chimera

And in the Elections forum, Velocity, Pantastic and Rick Sanchez are trying to tell us that it is the Liberals who are the real racists. :smack:

“Please Daddy, tell us the story again about how in the South, all races lived in peace and harmony and everyone knew their place until those evil libruls came in and gave the negroes ideas above their stations.”

Oh yes, that damnable War Of Yankee Aggression

[Chimera]

Their argument is that because the left keeps talking about race, we’re the racists. If we stopped talking about race, everything would be sunshine and daisy farts or something like that.

[D_Odds]

@Chimera

And in the Elections forum, Velocity, Pantastic and Rick Sanchez are trying to tell us that it is the Liberals who are the real racists. :smack:

“Please Daddy, tell us the story again about how in the South, all races lived in peace and harmony and everyone knew their place until those evil libruls came in and gave the negroes ideas above their stations.”

But the Republicans will tell us how they are the party of Lincoln, and how Democrats ruled the south during those times, because that paints Republicans as champions of equality and Democrats as oppressors. Whether Republicans say this because they are ignorant of the history and the fallout of the Civil Rights Act or just find it inconvenient (or both), I don’t know.

[Ambivalid]

@Chimera

Their argument is that because the left keeps talking about race, we’re the racists. If we stopped talking about race, everything would be sunshine and daisy farts or something like that.

All lives matter.

[TokyoBayer]

@BigAppleBucky

U.S. detains and nearly deports French Holocaust historian
Apparently others were given worse treatment:

From the article:

“It is now necessary to deal with the utmost arbitrariness and incompetence on the other side of the Atlantic,” Rousso wrote Sunday in the French edition of the Huffington Post. “What I know, in loving this country forever, is that the United States is no longer quite the United States.”

Yeah, it’s the United States of Assholes.

[Steve_MB]

@eclectic_wench

The gist of it is that babies from different places all have - wait for it - ten little fingers and ten little toes.

Even our 70-year-old baby have ten little fingers and ten little toes, though his are littler than most.

[Chimera]

@D_Odds

But the Republicans will tell us how they are the party of Lincoln, and how Democrats ruled the south during those times, because that paints Republicans as champions of equality and Democrats as oppressors. Whether Republicans say this because they are ignorant of the history and the fallout of the Civil Rights Act or just find it inconvenient (or both), I don’t know.

Well yeah, last week on a friend’s page, his cousin tried to play the Robert Byrd card. :rolleyes:

You know, the DEMOCRAT who was a member of the KKK. Never mind that he was a member of the KKK when the Democrats were the party of southern racists, that he later renounced them, saying it was the “Worst decision of my life” and ended his later service with an 100% rating by the NAACP.

Meanwhile, good old boy Jeff Sessions did not join the KKK only because he didn’t like that some of them smoked pot. And that asshole is currently (to our nation’s great shame) our Attorney General.

[ThelmaLou]

@Steve_MB

Even our 70-year-old baby have ten little fingers and ten little toes, though his are littler than most.

Nuh-AH! You take that back! They’re the biggest and greatest fingers and toes that anyone has ever seen or ever will see!

[RTFirefly]

@Steve_MB

Even our 70-year-old baby have ten little fingers and ten little toes, though his are littler than most.

Right now, that book is propped up on the window ledge next to my cube at the office. Just because.

[FlikTheBlue]

@Euphonious_Polemic

The important thing will be to find a way to blame Obama for the drop in tourism dollars.

Trump has been in office for just over a month now. Although obviously Obama did not personally handle the hiring of ICE officers, I do wonder about how so many assholes ended up in the ranks of ICE.

[Corry_El]

I read the comments section of an Aussie publication on this story, overwhelmingly against her. It might be a right leaning Aussie publication (I don’t know) and it’s just people’s opinions anyway, but it seems she’s known in Australia as an outspoken lefty even if that’s not were her children’s books are directly about.

Seems to me though the story is mainly a Rorschach test like so many political click bait stories. Who says people occasionally being held up and not treated politely by ICE (or whoever) started January 20, 2017*? (which was the thrust of a lot of the negative commentary toward her). The story asks us to take her word for a lot. The US authorities apologized but that seemed to be for visa mix up and holding her up, not agreeing she was ‘gratuitously insulted’, etc. And the story asks us to imagine stuff it doesn’t even claim happened (‘imagine’ what happened the 80 yr old Iranian lady in wheel chair…maybe nothing much).

*an in-law of mine had a bad experience trying to cross from Canada to the US (not a Canadian or US national) with a tour group a few years back. Visa problem. Upsetting, though she didn’t claim she was ‘gratuitously insulted’ etc. But she’s a perennially sunny person. I don’t know this Aussie lady and no other commenter AFAIK has claimed they do either.

[D_Odds]

@FlikTheBlue

Trump has been in office for just over a month now. Although obviously Obama did not personally handle the hiring of ICE officers, I do wonder about how so many assholes ended up in the ranks of ICE.

Because even with the assholes, there are still many unfilled positions. They can’t find enough qualified applicants.

@NPR

The number of CBP agents doubled during the George W. Bush and Barack Obama administrations, from 10,000 to 21,000. But there were problems. New agents were rushed through training and into the field, some without completed background checks.

…

(Shawn) Moran (vice president of the National Border Patrol Council, the union that represents Border Patrol agents) says it will be “difficult but not impossible” to find 5,000 new agents, adding that when it comes to hiring and training border patrol agents, “we are fans of extreme vetting to make sure that we get the right people.”

Yet Moran thinks one part of that vetting is too extreme: the polygraph exam that candidates have to undergo. He calls it flawed and overly burdensome, and says it excludes a higher percentage of candidates than at any other federal agency where polygraphs are used.

…

James Tomsheck, former head of internal affairs at CBP, defends the test. He told NPR’s Morning Edition it weeded out candidates who had criminal backgrounds and some would-be agents who were members of drug cartels that wanted to infiltrate CBP as spies.

Tomsheck says there have been efforts to remove some questions from the exam, which he says “is beyond my comprehension.”

When one drains a swamp, the water still has to end up somewhere.

[Melbourne]

@Corry_El

Who says people occasionally being held up and not treated politely by ICE (or whoever) started January 20, 2017*? .

Although the example I refered to above happened in the 00’s, to my knowledge, authors on book tours being stopped at the US border goes back, in my personal knwoledge, to the 1970’s. And I’m sure it only starts there because I have no personal knowledge of anything earlier.

Although there are a lot of people who would like to be Americans, and more who would like to live in America, there are even more that would like to work in America (and in the UK). And they stop a lot of people at the border who would like to work in America (and in the UK).

Getting a work visa for the US (or the UK) is a lot more difficult than getting a tourist visa, and for the last 50 years or whatever, authors have been going on book tours on tourist visas, and been getting stopped at the US border.

(That doesn’t excuse rudeness.)

[Martini_Enfield]

As I mentioned before, Australians don’t need a visa to visit the US as a tourist - it mentions she has a visa, so presumably it’s for one of the nonimmigrant “I’m Doing Work Stuff But I’m Not Planning On Living Here” categories.

[up_the_junction]

Apparently there was nothing wrong with her visa … The New Yorker picks up on the story and takes us through the interrogation:

Within moments, Fox was escorted to a holding room. The door closed behind her. There were about twenty people in the room, including a Taiwanese woman, a Scandinavian woman with a baby, and an elderly woman in a wheelchair, wearing a head scarf. There was a feeling of confusion in the room. A small notice on the wall, in English, prohibited the use of cell phones or laptops. Fox told me, “It was not big enough or prominent enough for people to see, even if they could read it, so in the time I was in the room many people who came in took out their phones, at which the guards would bark at them: ‘Put that away!’ They stood right in front of the person, as close as they could, and yelled at them.” She added, “Everything in that room was designed to humiliate.”

etc. Cunts.

An Australian Children’s-Book Author’s U.S. Customs Ordeal

[Rick_Kitchen]

Trump insider blames the bomb threats on Jewish centers on Democrats.

[foolsguinea]

@Chimera

Well yeah, last week on a friend’s page, his cousin tried to play the Robert Byrd card. :rolleyes:

You know, the DEMOCRAT who was a member of the KKK. Never mind that he was a member of the KKK when the Democrats were the party of southern racists, that he later renounced them, saying it was the “Worst decision of my life” and ended his later service with an 100% rating by the NAACP.

Even *George Wallace *later stated that his vocal support of segregation was more pandering to white voters than personal animus toward blacks. When the law changed, he changed his stripes to reflect a new electorate.

Not that I think Byrd was a panderer in that way, rather than someone who joined the wrong organization starting out, and regretted it.

Meanwhile, good old boy Jeff Sessions did not join the KKK only because he didn’t like that some of them smoked pot. And that asshole is currently (to our nation’s great shame) our Attorney General.

I think that was a wry joke, not a sincere statement of approval. Even many very conservative white supremacists dislike the various KKK organizations and see them for the criminal street gangs they are.

[foolsguinea]

Edit window ran out. My point was not to belittle Byrd at all. I’m just noting that political racism was a thing embraced by individuals pragmatically, then it was abandoned pragmatically.

What scares me is that now the modern so-called GOP may be gradually abandoning anti-racism in favor of racism for what they see as pragmatic reasons.