# The United States Declares Economic War on Canada **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [February 1, 2025, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734 "2025-02-01T21:16:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Kropotkin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kropotkin/32/18045_2.png) [@Kropotkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kropotkin)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/181 "2025-02-02T18:26:36Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Canadians (typically in western provinces) who say they welcome the idea of a U.S. takeover, have been referred to as the “Timbit Taliban”. I’ve also seen “proud” banners reading “Maple MAGA.” It’s like someone in the US is exporting stupid, and we need a tariff barrier to stop them. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/182 "2025-02-02T18:32:28Z")
Ah. But I thought they were nice! ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/183 "2025-02-02T18:57:38Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > The pain is gonna start a lot sooner than that. This could cause every auto assembly plant in America to shut down in a month. In Canada as well, I’m thinking. When all those auto workers are suddenly out of a job, there’s going to be a huge outcry. Trudeau’s speech was measured and it was clearly painful for him to basically announce that our alliance may be over. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/184 "2025-02-02T19:10:19Z")
Oh good lord. Tell me you don’t actually read the Bible without telling me you don’t actually read the Bible. (That was directed at Jack “I’m such a good Christian that I list ‘Child of God’ in my X bio” Miladin.) ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/185 "2025-02-02T19:11:14Z")
New development: Ontario, Newfoundland and Quebec are joining BC in pulling US products from the provincial liquor stores. > **[Doug Ford announces Ontario ban on American liquor in response to U.S. tariffs...](https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7448423)** > > Premier Doug Ford has ordered the LCBO to strip its shelves of American products in response to the U.S. imposing 25 per cent tariffs on most Canadian imports starting Tuesday. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/186 "2025-02-02T19:13:56Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Ontario, Newfoundland and Quebec are joining BC in pulling US products from the provincial liquor stores. Good. Keep it coming. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/187 "2025-02-02T19:15:56Z")
I’ll just note here the deep irony in the fact that back in 1973, it was possible for Canadian journalist and writer Gordon Sinclair to deliver a radio broadcast in praise of America as a unique force for good in the world. Not that I think it was entirely accurate even then, but how the world has changed with the enshittification of the Republican Party and the rise of the Orange Tyrant. > **[Gordon Sinclair - The Americans Radio Broadcast](https://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/gordonsinclairtheamericans.htm)** > > Full text and audio mp3 of Gordon Sinclair's radio address - The Americans ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/188 "2025-02-02T19:20:21Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Absolute insanity Could this fucking idiot get any more idiotic? It seems the answer is “yes”. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/189 "2025-02-02T19:26:09Z")
> [@orcenio](#): > > The US as a power is dying I mean, from us in the 3rd world, this is a good/bad thing. US Hegemony has not helped us much. But a stable USA has kept Pax Americana going for several decades. An unstable USA means deep shit for the countries I live in or care about, mostly in “shit hole” Africa ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/190 "2025-02-02T19:36:21Z")
> [@nelliebly](#): > > I’ve been struggling recently. I’ve lost the country my parents sacrificed for and taught us to love. The foundational principles of democracy are falling. I find myself sobbing in the shower and often cry in bed at night over it. I’m far from alone in my anxiety and depression over Trump’s second victory and what the future holds. > > Maybe before you blame all Americans, you should consider what’s happening here as a warning. After all, the far right has been growing in Canada, too. I absolutely get it, and I’m certainly not thrilled by the strong possibility, or probability, of a Pierre Poilievre prime ministership. I sometimes wonder if, as WWII participants and their direct descendants start to die off, the global, collective understanding of how a relatively stable and peaceful west was created will die off as well, leaving a population which has taken this for granted and never truly understood how fragile this can all be. Well, now we’re finding out. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/191 "2025-02-02T19:39:06Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > An unstable USA means deep shit for the countries I live in or care about, mostly in “shit hole” Africa Since pretty much all of USAID has been frozen, it does mean bad news for a lot of countries. ---
**Author:** ![FinsToTheLeft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finstotheleft/32/2930_2.png) [@FinsToTheLeft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinsToTheLeft)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/192 "2025-02-02T19:40:14Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > I’ll just note here the deep irony in the fact that back in 1973, it was possible for Canadian journalist and writer Gordon Sinclair to deliver a radio broadcast in praise of America as a unique force for good in the world. And that’s when Nixon was president! ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/193 "2025-02-02T19:44:23Z")
What would Musk have to gain from decimating the auto industry? ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/194 "2025-02-02T19:47:38Z")
> [@nelliebly](#): > > I’ve been struggling recently. I’ve lost the country my parents sacrificed for and taught us to love. The foundational principles of democracy are falling. I find myself sobbing in the shower and often cry in bed at night over it. I’m far from alone in my anxiety and depression over Trump’s second victory and what the future holds. > > Maybe before you blame all Americans, you should consider what’s happening here as a warning. After all, the far right has been growing in Canada, too. I absolutely get it, and I’m certainly not thrilled by the strong possibility, or probability, of a Pierre Poilievre prime ministership. I sometimes wonder if, as WWII participants and their direct descendants start to die off, the global, collective understanding of how a relatively stable and peaceful west was created will die off as well, leaving a population which has taken this for granted and never truly understood how fragile this can all be. Well, now we’re finding out. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/195 "2025-02-02T19:48:12Z")
> [@FinsToTheLeft](#): > > And that’s when Nixon was president! Compared to what we face today, Nixon was a saint. Like all previous presidents except for the current orange-hued traitorous felon, Nixon was at least a patriotic American and acted rationally, often promoting policies that would be considered progressive today, like establishing the EPA, trying to improve the health care system, and opening up trade with China. Today the Orange Fuck is literally doing the opposite. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/196 "2025-02-02T20:05:03Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > What does it mean, “a bag of Richards”? Rhyming slang. Richard the Third = turd. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/197 "2025-02-02T20:06:37Z")
One _possible_ answer: > [@Buying products before tariffs kick in](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/buying-products-before-tariffs-kick-in/1011936/14): > > Short answer? Nearly all of the major auto manufacturers stand to be hurt: [Trump’s automotive tariffs would impact nearly all OEMs](https://www.spglobal.com/mobility/en/research-analysis/trump-automotive-tariffs-impact-automakers-suppliers.html)[[image] ](https://cdn.ihsmarkit.com/www/images/0125/sp-na-production-by-oem-1200_300120251945117.jpg) Huh. I don’t see Tesla there. Makes you wonder, doesn’t it … ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/198 "2025-02-02T20:11:17Z")
Elmo has already announced huge price hikes for Teslas coming into Canada, independent of the additional costs of potential retaliatory tariffs. Tesla sales in Canada will probably wind down to near zero while this madness goes on. I don’t know how Tesla costs or sales will be affected in the US. but the North American economy going in the shitter isn’t going to be good for anybody. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/199 "2025-02-02T20:24:09Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > I don’t see any protests about this though. There is the 50 states 50 marches movement. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/200 "2025-02-02T20:43:50Z")
Personally, I’m waiting to see what the fallout around here ends up being, considering the absolutely massive amount of trade Texas does with Mexico. Something like 30% of the exports go there, and a little over 5% of the state’s GDP is from trade with Mexico. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734.md?page=11)