# The United States Declares Economic War on Canada **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [February 1, 2025, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734 "2025-02-01T21:16:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/41 "2025-02-02T00:46:56Z")
Is Canadian electricity subject to the tariffs? ---
**Author:** ![Beesnest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e495f1/32.png) [@Beesnest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beesnest)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/42 "2025-02-02T00:49:38Z")
Let it ride. Make him claim the tariff for long enough that the shelves empty and the cars stop being made in Detroit because they can’t afford the parts. Let the consequences to US companies and consumers show up. I don’t think Canada should retaliate . Drop the rope and let him trip on it. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/43 "2025-02-02T00:55:22Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > The President has assured Americans that you don’t need Canadian lumber because there is plenty of US lumber. There is a lot of timber down here. But I do wonder how long it would take to drastically increase the size of our logging industry. My younger son works for the U.S. Forest Service, and is coming back next week from a long-planned extended vacation. What a different environment for forest conservation — and much else — he will return to. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/44 "2025-02-02T01:00:51Z")
> [@Beesnest](#): > > Let the consequences to US companies and consumers show up. I don’t think Canada should retaliate . Drop the rope and let him trip on it. This is my hope, that the world lets him hang himself and red states bleed. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/45 "2025-02-02T01:02:30Z")
> [@Beesnest](#): > > I don’t think Canada should retaliate Well if we don’t retaliate Trump will just cement this war for longer. The American people need to see the downsides to electing a nutter. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/46 "2025-02-02T01:17:51Z")
Donald Trump is a “nutter”’in the same way that Adolf Hitler was a nutter. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/47 "2025-02-02T01:18:21Z")
> [@orcenio](#): > > Well if we don’t retaliate Trump will just cement this war for longer. The American people need to see the downsides to electing a nutter. I don’t have a strong opinion on whether Canada should retaliate. But I think that most of damage Trump’s tariffs do, to the U.S. economy, will occur regardless of whether Canada retaliates. Automobile-industry-related disruptions will get lots of publicity down here. A decline in U.S. whiskey exports will not. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/48 "2025-02-02T01:19:27Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Automobile-industry-related disruptions will get lots of publicity down here. And Trump will blame those disruptions on Canada, even though tariffs are paid by the U.S. importers, preparing his supporters for further attacks on Canada. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/49 "2025-02-02T01:23:31Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Donald Trump is a “nutter”’in the same way that Adolf Hitler was a nutter. I wish more Americans understood this. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/50 "2025-02-02T01:26:55Z")
I understand, but how Canada responds does matter. Yes, it matters to Americans who just cannot pivot to US resources and need to close down. However above all, how we respond matters to Canadians. We will be looking back at this moment (much like how we broke away from the US in Vietnam, or Iraq, or with them during 9/11). How shall we judge ourselves if we did nothing in the face of Trumps wild insanity? Canada will ride through this storm, I’m sure of it _knocks on wood_ I would also like that we can look back at this moment with national pride. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/51 "2025-02-02T01:32:24Z")
> [@orcenio](#): > > the US in Vietnam I hope this is a tipping point, much like the Tet Offensive in 1968, where public pressure is too much for the Mango Mussolini and his cult to withstand. (Not that I wish him a Mussolini-style exit, but I’ll be happy however he is gone.) ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/52 "2025-02-02T01:32:32Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Is Canadian electricity subject to the tariffs? More details have come out. The tariff on energy will be 10%. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/53 "2025-02-02T01:40:20Z")
> [@orcenio](#): > > However above all, how we respond matters to Canadians. Understood. As an American, it isn’t my business to say how you should respond. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/54 "2025-02-02T01:41:06Z")
Here is the shameful EO: > **[Imposing Duties to Address the Flow of Illicit Drugs Across Our National...](https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/imposing-duties-to-address-the-flow-of-illicit-drugs-across-our-national-border/)** > >      By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the ---
**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/55 "2025-02-02T01:42:04Z")
> [@orcenio](#): > > We will be looking back at this moment (much like how we broke away from the US in Vietnam, or Iraq, or with them during 9/11). How shall we judge ourselves if we did nothing in the face of Trumps wild insanity? > > Canada will ride through this storm, I’m sure of it _knocks on wood_ I would also like that we can look back at this moment with national pride. Very well said. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/56 "2025-02-02T01:45:31Z")
You get to be the first layer of the _cordon_ _sanitaire_ (not counting those famous adult diapers) ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/57 "2025-02-02T01:56:04Z")
Re the thread title, it’s not just me. Premier Eby of BC says the US has declared economic war on Canada. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/58 "2025-02-02T02:00:25Z")
The thing about lumber is you need to harvest it sustainably or you don’t have it anymore. Of course, Trump does look a little like the orange-haired Lorax in the movie… ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/59 "2025-02-02T02:08:17Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Donald Trump is a “nutter”’in the same way that Adolf Hitler was a nutter. 'Dolf was a singular nutter. Trump only has such an ambition. > [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > even though tariffs are paid by the U.S. importers I’m discovering that the magaflatearthers are so deep into Trump’s gluteus maximus they really do believe it’s the Canadian government, not the US consumers, paying the tariffs. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/60 "2025-02-02T02:20:12Z")
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