# The United States Declares Economic War on Canada **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [February 1, 2025, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734 "2025-02-01T21:16:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 36
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/701 "2025-03-07T19:23:12Z")
We already have a pretty good trade deal with the EU. There’s just this pesky pond in the way. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/702 "2025-03-07T19:23:52Z")
Trump seems to believe that he is now divinely inspired. Certainly he has always had a deep faith in himself. I can’t really picture him sitting in church for even an hour to hear them talk about how great someone else is. The problem seems to be that no one in his circle is willing to dispute his vision. However, he does inspire patriotism around the world. I might also have been wrong about the moribund federal liberals too, though I think they are still further behind than some polls suggest. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/703 "2025-03-07T19:45:07Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > However, he does inspire patriotism around the world. Except in his own country. I’m personally no longer “buying American” when I have a choice. ---
**Author:** ![TheTooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/919ad9/32.png) [@TheTooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheTooth)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/704 "2025-03-07T20:01:04Z")
No. Vance can’t be trusted because he’s a Republican, and treaties with the US are worthless in light of how the US elects leaders who choose not to adhere to them on a whim. A whim! ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/705 "2025-03-07T20:54:08Z")
I’ve just read that Trump wants to impose a 25 **0** % tariff on Canadian dairy. Nobody here goes to Canada to buy milk. In actuality, I can count the number of times I’ve seen Canadian shoppers buying 10, 12, 20 gallons of milk in Bellingham. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/706 "2025-03-07T20:59:55Z")
That he can go ahead and do. Our dairy exports are microscopic, due to the dairy supply management system making our dairy products significantly more expensive than foreign competition. Which is why you see Canadian shoppers in Bellingham buying milk. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/707 "2025-03-07T21:01:17Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > Our dairy exports are microscopic, due to the dairy supply management system making our dairy products significantly more expensive than foreign competition. Being in plastic bags doesn’t help either. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/708 "2025-03-07T21:03:58Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > I’ve just read that Trump wants to impose a 25 **0** % tariff on Canadian dairy. I may have been in favor of that growing up in Western NY. For several years our school gave us milk in bags, which, although Canada is superior in some ways, there’s no manner in which bagged milk is superior. It only adds unnecessary fussiness with opening the bag and a risk of sudden explosion. I guess it was possible that western NY was just copying Canada, but even so, if they blame the GQP for inspiring the “trucker” protests, I .can blame Canada for inspiring horrible container choices. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/709 "2025-03-07T21:15:57Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > I can count the number of times Errata: CAN’T count the number of times. ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/710 "2025-03-07T21:23:02Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > there’s no manner in which bagged milk is superior I completely agree with that. My mother in law used bagged milk and it was just a collosal pain. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/711 "2025-03-07T21:35:16Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > there’s no manner in which bagged milk is superior. I almost never buy milk – just cream for coffee and making mashed potatoes – so I have no dog in this fight, but ISTM that if someone buys a lot of milk, unopened milk bags are easier to store than other container types because they can lie flat with no risk of leakage. Once opened, they just sit in the handy pitcher bag holder taking up about the same space as a one-liter carton. That said, although I don’t shop for milk, I don’t recall seeing milk in bag form in a while. It may have been mostly phased out. And when I did see it, it was used for volume sales – like three one-liter bags together in one package. ---
**Author:** ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/712 "2025-03-07T21:56:59Z")
Bags of milk are the best if you want to spray someone with milk, like for a fetish or cable access comedy show. ---
**Author:** ![This\_Just\_In\_2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@This\_Just\_In\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/This_Just_In_2)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/713 "2025-03-07T22:09:59Z")
Most Canadian milk is not in bags - that is just some places out east. When I travelled out there myself I found I usually had options in how to buy it (i.e. bags or other containers). But Canadian milk differs from American milk because it is often ultra-pasteurized, and it never has artificial hormones that have been shown to cause health issues in cows. The current Doge and US Administration is actively trying to dismantle Federal Departments in the USA who provide oversight for food safety. > **[President Trump eliminates two key food safety committees](https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2025/03/president-trump-eliminates-two-key-food-safety-committees/)** > > The Trump Administration has eliminated two USDA food safety advisory committees that have been in place for decades. The U.S. Department of Agriculture As a Canadian - I do not want to see American milk on the shelves - USA food is becoming unsafe. And Canadian milk, being more expensive - is not a popular in America. They can tariff it to hell and it won’t make any real difference to anyone. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/714 "2025-03-07T22:18:28Z")
> [@This\_Just\_In\_2](#): > > The current Doge and US Administration is actively trying to dismantle Federal Departments in the USA who provide oversight for food safety. This is getting beyond ridiculous. It’s like that demented uncle that everyone has to try to tolerate on Thanksgiving but can mercifully ignore the rest of the year, the one that you can only hope will die before dementia completely possesses him, and that uncle is suddenly president of the USA. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/715 "2025-03-07T22:21:21Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > there’s no manner in which bagged milk is superior My elementary school switched from the little cartons to bags, and I can confirm there’s one way they’re superior: pre-made water balloons. Which is why they switched back a few weeks later. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/716 "2025-03-07T22:24:22Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > there’s no manner in which bagged milk is superior. Waste. Bagged milk has the lowest amount of packaging waste of any of the ways of selling milk. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/717 "2025-03-07T22:32:00Z")
Channeling my inner conservative anti-regulation Plus, plastic bags are far superior to plastic jugs or cardboard cartons if only for their reusability as children’s toys! ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/718 "2025-03-07T22:32:23Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > This is getting beyond ridiculous. “The cruelty is the point.” Unsafe food will sicken millions of people; and that’s what they _want._ They are the grown-up version of the giggling kid who fries ants with a magnifying glass, except they are using people instead of ants. Evey random bit of suffering and death they cause is a victory for them. Not an accident, not a side effect, not a ploy; it’s _the point of the exercise._ ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/719 "2025-03-07T23:04:13Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > In actuality, I can count the number of times I’ve seen Canadian shoppers buying 10, 12, 20 gallons of milk in Bellingham. Yep. The Bellingham Costco built a larger dairy cooler because of the massive amount of milk flowing northward. I doubt there is much dairy flowing the other direction, but I could be wrong. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2025, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/720 "2025-03-08T00:59:49Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > I think that the whole phenomenon of eastern Canada importing oil while the west exports it is due to transportation issues. It’s nothing to do with a “naive” belief in anything. Is it a matter of not having a trans-Canada pipeline? Of where refineries are located? > [@PhillyGuy](#): > > I just question that it makes Trump dumb. Instead, it makes him an expansionist aggressor. Why can’t it be both? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734.md?page=35) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734.md?page=37)