# The United States Declares Economic War on Canada **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [February 1, 2025, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734 "2025-02-01T21:16:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/101 "2025-02-02T04:46:55Z")
☹ Sadly, we are Germany in the 1930s. Should the time come, I hope you will welcome refugees. (We can walk to White Rock, BC at low tide. We just have to bring our cats.) ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/102 "2025-02-02T04:50:09Z")
In the meantime, I’ll take some consolation that a hero of the Right prophesied Trump perfectly with a description of Salvador Allende ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/103 "2025-02-02T04:50:42Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > This is why I’m going to Costco first thing in the morning. And why I just came back from Safeway. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/104 "2025-02-02T04:55:23Z")
> [@bump](#): > > It’s almost some sort of manufactured grievance about how NAFTA or its successor gave the US a raw deal. Which probably means that it wasn’t completely advantageous to the US at Mexico and Canada’s expense, if the way he’s been shown to think in his last term is any evidence. This. Trump doesn’t believe in mutually profitable relationships, those are for “losers” “Winners” take in return for nothing. He doesn’t want a trade network between sovereign nations, he wants an imperial America receiving tribute from its subjects. ---
**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/105 "2025-02-02T04:55:33Z")
I’ll be going shopping in the morning as well. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/106 "2025-02-02T04:59:01Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Should the time come, I hope you will welcome refugees. You may have to dodge the invading US Army. ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/107 "2025-02-02T05:14:35Z")
I wish people would stop characterizing Americans by our horrifically bad president. Trump got less than 50% of the popular vote this last election. Most Americans did NOT want him as president. Many of us have been overwhelmed by feelings of loss, betrayal, and doom. We get it: you’re angry. So are we. To be stereotyped like this, though, is rubbing salt in our wounds. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/108 "2025-02-02T05:20:19Z")
I’ll ask the same question I asked in one of the other threads: where are the Congress reps and the Senators who are trying to rein in Trump to prevent this economic war? If there are none or few, then it’s the US that is at fault, not just a president. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/109 "2025-02-02T05:20:21Z")
> [@nelliebly](#): > > I wish people would stop characterizing Americans by our horrifically bad president. Trump got less than 50% of the popular vote this last election. Most Americans did NOT want him as president. However that doesn’t matter, since we have no voice in what happens anymore. And are unlikely to ever have one in the future, either. When the US pours its troops over the border the fact that millions of Americans don’t want it to happen will change nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/110 "2025-02-02T05:23:24Z")
> [@nelliebly](#): > > Trump got less than 50% of the popular vote this last election. Trump got 49.8% of the popular vote. That tells me that a greater percentage of Americans voted for a fascist president than the percentage of Germans who voted for a Nazi chancellor in 1933 (43.9%) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/111 "2025-02-02T05:25:54Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Trump got 49.8% of the popular vote. > > That tells me that a greater percentage of Americans voted for a fascist president than the percentage of Germans who voted for a Nazi chancellor in 1933 (43.9%) Sadly, the majority of Americans who oppose Trump and his fascist cultists declined to vote. Apathy is the enemy of democracy. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/112 "2025-02-02T05:26:03Z")
The utterly stupid thing about it all is that free, unfettered trade is how wealth is generated here, in the US, Canada, and Mexico. Tariffs and restrictive trade practices just limit the amount of money to be made. You’d think someone elected President would be smart enough to either realize this or listen when his people explain it to him, but apparently not. ---
**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/113 "2025-02-02T05:26:58Z")
> [@bump](#): > > The utterly stupid thing about it all is that free, unfettered trade is how wealth is generated here, in the US, Canada, and Mexico. Tariffs and restrictive trade practices just limit the amount of money to be made. > > You’d think someone elected President would be smart enough to either realize this or listen when his people explain it to him, but apparently not. Exactly! Plus the churches will get less money when the prices rise. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/114 "2025-02-02T05:35:38Z")
Add my name to the list of Americans who apologize for this idiocy. The only thing that might reverse this is if the stock markets drops sufficiently on Monday. “Sufficiently” meaning at least double percentage digits. It’s already dropped smaller amounts, but there needs to be a big drop to get Trump’s attention. Maybe if the Fed has an emergency meeting and raised interest rates, it would also get his attention. Trump wants interest rates to go down, so raising them might do the job. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/115 "2025-02-02T05:41:39Z")
> [@bump](#): > > You’d think someone elected President would be smart enough to either realize this or listen when his people explain it to him, but apparently not. Oh, but Trump is a master negotiator, a great businessman. He went to the Wharton School of Business, after all. [Sarcasm off.] But many Americans believe this. They don’t know, or refuse to believe that, Trump cannot negotiate his way out of a paper bag. His “negotiation style” is a zero-sum game, where he wins, you lose. That’s not negotiating; that’s bullying. Bullies fade away when you stand up to them. I hope we in Canada can stand up and take this bully down. Our country can weather this shitstorm coming from one single Yank whom we did not even get the chance to vote for or against, but who thinks he can control our country and its people. We are strong; we can do this. This is P&E, so I will refrain from further remarks, which would be profanity-ridden, and likely more be suitable for the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/116 "2025-02-02T05:43:25Z")
> [@nelliebly](#): > > I wish people would stop characterizing Americans by our horrifically bad president. Trump got less than 50% of the popular vote this last election. Most Americans did NOT want him as president. But when you then add in the +/- 40% who just couldn’t be bothered to vote on who was POTUS then you have a super majority of Americans who were absolutely sanguine about his return. ---
**Author:** ![Loggins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/74df32/32.png) [@Loggins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loggins)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/117 "2025-02-02T06:39:14Z")
Cant Canada turn to Europe for better trade agreements, and ditch the US for 4 years? ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/118 "2025-02-02T06:51:01Z")
Is there a railway that crosses the Atlantic? ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/119 "2025-02-02T06:51:17Z")
> [@FinsToTheLeft](#): > > Waiting for him to tell Trump to go fuck himself, but politely and in French. As in “Go fuck yourself, pardon my French”? ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-united-states-declares-economic-war-on-canada/1013734/120 "2025-02-02T06:57:38Z")
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