# The Unmitigated Cruelty of Jerry Mouse **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 20, 2003, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unmitigated-cruelty-of-jerry-mouse/169880 "2003-04-20T18:11:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![dwc1970](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a183cd/32.png) [@dwc1970](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dwc1970)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2003, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unmitigated-cruelty-of-jerry-mouse/169880/21 "2003-04-21T15:46:07Z")
I am a cat lover, and as such, I have always _hated_ with white-hot fiery passion, cartoons such as Tom and Jerry and Sylvester and Tweety because of the way the cat is portrayed as the bad guy who’s always getting hurt. What’s worse is that both Sylvester and Tom were tormented by more than just the prey they sought. They’ve had dogs and sometimes humans who would join in the attack. I’m glad Jerry doesn’t talk, though, because if he did I’d probably hate his voice just as much as I hate Tweety’s. I’m glad that some cartoons cast the cat as the hero who gets the upper hand over his enemies, but I wish they had become more popular. Anyone remember Heathcliff or Felix the Cat? These cartoons _rock!_ ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2003, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unmitigated-cruelty-of-jerry-mouse/169880/22 "2003-04-21T16:20:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Avalonian \* > **So, as I see it, what Tom does in trying to catch Jerry is pretty much expected behavior. What _Jerry_ does in response, though, is nothing short of cruel.** I am getting sick of you catniks. Jerry is justified in carrying out a pre-emptive strike, as Tom is clearly harboring weapons of mouse destruction. ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2003, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unmitigated-cruelty-of-jerry-mouse/169880/23 "2003-04-21T16:50:36Z")
The _win-nah!_ ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2003, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unmitigated-cruelty-of-jerry-mouse/169880/24 "2003-04-21T18:03:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by wring \* > \*\*I always wanted the Rabbit to get the Trix. Cruel kids. \*\* Once, he did! There was a deal where you could vote, and the kids (I voted!) voted about 2 to 1 to let the rabbit have a spoonful of Trix! Trinopus ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2003, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unmitigated-cruelty-of-jerry-mouse/169880/25 "2003-04-21T18:14:12Z")
God I hated Jerry. ---
**Author:** ![Avalonian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Avalonian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avalonian)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2003, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unmitigated-cruelty-of-jerry-mouse/169880/26 "2003-04-21T18:20:17Z")
**tdn** wins the proze for most appropriate (and funniest) response. Let’s say, 3000 points. The rest of y’all get 5. 😃 Except for **wring** , who gets 50, because I always wanted to stomp those damn kids too! Poor Trix bunny… ---
**Author:** ![Avalonian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Avalonian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avalonian)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2003, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unmitigated-cruelty-of-jerry-mouse/169880/27 "2003-04-21T18:22:01Z")
That is, **tdn** wins the prize… for the prose… _sigh_ ---
**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2003, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unmitigated-cruelty-of-jerry-mouse/169880/28 "2003-04-21T18:49:46Z")
The best Tom mutilation sequence I ever saw was when he got hit in the eye with a golfball, which became lodged in his eye socket. Jerry took out a pencil and drew a pupil on the golf ball. Personally, I always rooted for Tom and for the Coyote. I couldn’t stand that smart-ass Road Runner, thinking he’s all that. I remember the “election”, where kids got to vote whether they wanted the Rabbit to get the Trix. Seems to me that the Rabbit won, but the results were quickly swept under the rug, and things were soon back to usual for the Rabbit. Must have had something to do with the electoral college… ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2003, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unmitigated-cruelty-of-jerry-mouse/169880/29 "2003-04-21T19:21:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Avalonian \* > **tdn wins the proze for most appropriate (and funniest) response. Let’s say, 3000 points. The rest of y’all get 5. 😃** Thanks, but you know I’m just going to spend it all on booze and whores. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2003, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unmitigated-cruelty-of-jerry-mouse/169880/30 "2003-04-21T19:33:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by blowero \* > \*\* > > Personally, I always rooted for Tom and for the Coyote. I couldn’t stand that smart-ass Road Runner, thinking he’s all that. > > I remember the “election”, where kids got to vote whether they wanted the Rabbit to get the Trix. Seems to me that the Rabbit won, but the results were quickly swept under the rug, and things were soon back to usual for the Rabbit. Must have had something to do with the electoral college… \*\* Nope. The Rabbit was given the bowl(not spoonful) of Trix. He made the usual speech about the colors and ate the bowl. This took roughly a combined 15 seconds. He asked for more and was given the usual response. In a similiar vein, Wile E Coyote DID once catch the Road Runner. However, the poor coyote was shrunk to a height of only a few inches at the time. He looked at the audience an held up a sign saying “You always wanted me to catch him. Well, now what?” ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2003, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unmitigated-cruelty-of-jerry-mouse/169880/31 "2003-04-22T02:48:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by DocCathode \* > \*\*My memory may be playing tricks on me, but I seem to recall at least one time when Penelope availed herself of a clothes pin(She put it on her nose. Getcher minds outta de guttah!) and turned the tables on Pepe. \*\* Not exactly. She fell into a barrel of water (washing off the stripe and making her look all strung out and unattractive), and le Pew fell into a can of paint, which sealed off his smell. Thus le Pew’s charm was able to get through to her at the one time he didn’t find her at all desirable. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![butter\_pie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aca169/32.png) [@butter\_pie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/butter_pie)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2003, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unmitigated-cruelty-of-jerry-mouse/169880/32 "2003-04-22T05:19:09Z")
I always hated that fucking mouse. Didn’t le Pew fall in a can of white paint, and then climb out, walking away all buff looking with his arms sticking out? I seem to remember the clothespin thing from a different cartoon – I know the one where she falls in the water is the one where she walks in on him, in the perfume store (towards the beginning), running the little wands from the bottles under his nose. For some reason I always liked that scene. But I’m all for seeing Jerry and Tweety get eaten. ---
**Author:** ![lokij](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/5e9695/32.png) [@lokij](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lokij)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2003, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unmitigated-cruelty-of-jerry-mouse/169880/33 "2003-04-22T07:07:34Z")
Everybody SING now! “OH! Froggie went a courtin he did ride Mmm Hmmm…” “Can’t play a guitar without a guitar string N-Ne-Ne-Nephew…” :\> ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2003, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unmitigated-cruelty-of-jerry-mouse/169880/34 "2003-04-22T07:34:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jinwicked \* > \*\*Didn’t le Pew fall in a can of white paint, and then climb out, walking away all buff looking with his arms sticking out? \*\* It was a can of _blue_ paint and for some bizarre reason, this made the female cat that had been avoiding him for the entire cartoon go completely bananas for him. Since she had gotten herself all fuglied by falling into a water bucket (cat owners will agree that wet cats are fugly cats), Pépé was turned off by _her_ and spent the final seconds of the 'toon cowardly running for his life and thus confirming his French heritage. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2003, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unmitigated-cruelty-of-jerry-mouse/169880/35 "2003-04-22T12:28:06Z")
I never got the impression he was turned off because she was wet, he was turned off because she was a cat. “Madame, pleaze. Control yourself… You know, it is possible to be too attractive.” ---
**Author:** ![SuaSponte](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SuaSponte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuaSponte)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2003, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unmitigated-cruelty-of-jerry-mouse/169880/36 "2003-04-22T13:59:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Kantalooppi \* > \*\*Pers’nally, I think the way Macalay Culkin molests those poor sympathetic innocent(!?) criminals in Home Alone 1 and 2 is far more disturbing. I mean, who doesn’t end up hoping the criminals catch him? \*\* [serious note] Home Alone is the only movie where I’ve gotten up and walked out of the theater. It was very serious, real violence played for laughs and directed at children. I was very disturbed.[/serious note] Sua ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2003, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unmitigated-cruelty-of-jerry-mouse/169880/37 "2003-04-22T15:39:52Z")
> [@](#): > > I’m glad that some cartoons cast the cat as the hero who gets the upper hand over his enemies, but I wish they had become more popular. Anyone remember Heathcliff or Felix the Cat? These cartoons rock! Neither of them could touch [\*\*The Secret Lives of Waldo Kitty](http://www.emissions.ca/e/507-1145-275389.asp)\*\* [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-unmitigated-cruelty-of-jerry-mouse/169880.md?page=1)