# The US is trending towards its own Gloucesters
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-is-trending-towards-its-own-gloucesters/800601
**Category:** Cecil's Columns/Staff Reports
**Created:** [November 3, 2017, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-is-trending-towards-its-own-gloucesters/800601 "2017-11-03T15:13:16Z")
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### Author:  [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2017, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-is-trending-towards-its-own-gloucesters/800601/1 "2017-11-03T15:13:16Z")
[What’s with the weird British pronunciation of words like Gloucester?](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/3365/what-s-with-the-weird-british-pronunciation-of-words-like-gloucester)
I live near Lancaster, SC. I grew up near Lancaster, CA. I lived near Lancaster, OH.
Each of these is pronounced differently. Here in the South, it’s pronunciation is two syllables. You can easily tell a newcomer from the North or West (like me, 9 years ago!) when they insist on pronouncing all three.
There are other examples, I’m sure.
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### Author:  [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2017, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-is-trending-towards-its-own-gloucesters/800601/2 "2017-11-03T15:46:38Z")
Worcester, MA is pronounces “WHOO-ster” (or “WHOOS-tah” since it is Boston area).
Worcester, PA (a suburb of Philadelphia) is pronounced “WOR-seh-ster”.
Not sure if it is OT, but Newark, NJ is pronounced “NEW-erk” but Newark, DE is pronounced “New-ARK”.
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### Author:  [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2017, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-is-trending-towards-its-own-gloucesters/800601/3 "2017-11-03T16:29:00Z")
Eh, in England ‘Lancaster’ is pronounced _Lan-kaster_.
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### Author:  [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2017, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-is-trending-towards-its-own-gloucesters/800601/4 "2017-11-03T16:33:25Z")
The county wherein it abides is Lancashire. Maybe that threw you.
Pronounced Lan-cash-er. We are fond of our shires.
Gloucester is usually Glost-ter.
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### Author:  [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2017, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-is-trending-towards-its-own-gloucesters/800601/5 "2017-11-03T17:57:17Z")
its freezing here in Lancaster ca… well ok its freezing here for at around 52 F anyways
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### Author:  [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2017, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-is-trending-towards-its-own-gloucesters/800601/6 "2017-11-03T18:01:39Z")
> [@Evan\_Drake](#):
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> Eh, in England ‘Lancaster’ is pronounced _Lan-kaster_.
In Ohio, it’s the word “lank” followed by the word “astir.” My dad’s pronunciation would be closer to lank-stir. (And the local Newark was just “nerk” for him.)
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### Author:  [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2017, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-is-trending-towards-its-own-gloucesters/800601/7 "2017-11-03T19:08:24Z")
In Lancaster you might (or might not) see [the commercials for Toyota of Greer](https://www.toyotaofgreer.com/Toyota-of-Greer-TV-Commercials.html). For Greerians, the town name is pronounced roughly “Gr.”
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### Author:  [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2017, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-is-trending-towards-its-own-gloucesters/800601/8 "2017-11-03T20:37:29Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> In Lancaster you might (or might not) see [the commercials for Toyota of Greer](https://www.toyotaofgreer.com/Toyota-of-Greer-TV-Commercials.html). For Greerians, the town name is pronounced roughly “Gr.”
Just remember to change the “ol” in those Toyotas every few thousand miles. 😃
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### Author:  [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2017, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-is-trending-towards-its-own-gloucesters/800601/9 "2017-11-04T02:58:20Z")
Nawlins.
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### Author:  [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2017, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-is-trending-towards-its-own-gloucesters/800601/10 "2017-11-04T12:44:38Z")
> [@Evan\_Drake](#):
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> The county wherein it abides is Lancashire. Maybe that threw you.
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> Pronounced Lan-cash-er. We are fond of our shires.
> Gloucester is usually Glost-ter.
Rednecks in the South, who are spelling challenged, spell it “Gloster”
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### Author:  [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2017, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-is-trending-towards-its-own-gloucesters/800601/11 "2017-11-04T12:45:38Z")
> [@rowrrbazzle](#):
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> Nawlins.
Noo-ahlins, to be more precise.
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### Author:  [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2017, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-is-trending-towards-its-own-gloucesters/800601/12 "2017-11-04T13:25:15Z")
It’s not exactly the case that in American English people are creating new shortened versions of place names. It’s more like the place name was originally shortened when the American place was established (at some time after English-speaking people first arrived in the Americas, of course), usually because the place was named after a place in the U.K. Frequently the place in the U.S. would be pronounced just like the one in the U.K., where the place name was shortened. Then later people in the U.S. would expand the pronunciation of the name to a longer one that is closer to a full pronunciation of all the letters in it. Sometimes another place would be established in the U.S. with the same spelling, but the pronunciation would be closer to a full pronunciation of all the letters, unlike the first place in the U.S. with that name. So there’s no tendency toward shortening of the pronunciation; indeed, there’s a tendency towards the expansion of the pronunciation of names towards a full pronunciation of letters.
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### Author:  [@glowacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glowacks)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2017, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-is-trending-towards-its-own-gloucesters/800601/13 "2017-11-05T00:37:30Z")
Americans definitely tend to add to pronunciations, even letters they think should be there even though they aren’t. Check out the pronunciations of these cities in Ohio.
[Versailles, Ohio - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Versailles,_Ohio) = Ver-Sales
Just “normal” English pronunciation here.
[Bellefontaine, Ohio - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellefontaine,_Ohio) = Bell-Fountain
People (someone?) decided that even though there’s no ‘u’, it the second half of the name should be pronounced like the common English word it most resembles.
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### Author:  [@Civil\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Civil_Guy)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2017, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-is-trending-towards-its-own-gloucesters/800601/14 "2017-11-05T01:27:55Z")
Ell A.
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### Author:  [@John\_W.Kennedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_W.Kennedy)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2017, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-is-trending-towards-its-own-gloucesters/800601/15 "2017-11-05T02:39:21Z")
/ˈkeɪroʊ/, Illinois
/ˈhɑʊstən/ Street, New York City
And, on the other hand, Wooster, Ohio.
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### Author:  [@icon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/icon)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2017, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-is-trending-towards-its-own-gloucesters/800601/16 "2017-11-05T07:09:14Z")
Once, without thinking, I corrected someone during an interview on the pronunciation of Staunton, VA, which of course, has no “un” if you live down there. I cursed myself internally for doing so, but I still got the job.
//i\
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### Author:  [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2017, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-is-trending-towards-its-own-gloucesters/800601/17 "2017-11-05T07:28:53Z")
In my lifetime, the local pronunciation of Baltimore (Maryland) has gone from sort of “Bawl-d-mer” to “Bawl-t-mo.” Sometimes even shortened to “Bee-mo.”
I find the sharpening of the “d” back to a “t” particularly interesting.
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### Author:  [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2017, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-is-trending-towards-its-own-gloucesters/800601/18 "2017-11-05T10:01:23Z")
Lafayette has at least four distance pronunciations around the US. The standard, “lah-fiyet” in most states, but “laugh-iyet” in Lousiana, “la-FAY-et” in Mississippi, and “la-FEET” in Florida.
Beaufort starts with “bew” in South Carolina, and “bo” in North Carolina.
Dekalb like it looks in Illinois, but “de-cobb” in Georgia.
Iowans have a few oddities, preferring a long O to start Osceola, and a long I in Louisa = “lu-wye-za”
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### Author:  [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2017, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-is-trending-towards-its-own-gloucesters/800601/19 "2017-11-05T10:39:26Z")
Around here, we can tell if you’re new to the area based on how you think “Puyallup” and “Sequim” ought to be pronounced.
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### Author:  [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2017, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-is-trending-towards-its-own-gloucesters/800601/20 "2017-11-05T13:13:05Z")
Around here, we pronounce New Orleans as “the-big-easy” …
Siuslaw = “sigh-you-slaw” … most peoples get that wrong …
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