# The US Medal of Valor a Satanic pentagram? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 15, 2012, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618 "2012-01-15T17:44:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618/21 "2012-01-15T22:33:06Z")
> [@Theophane](#): > > The inversion of a five-pointed star does have meaning, and the US, like the rest of the world, is owned by Satan (KVJ Mat. 4:8-10). And at this point the mods might as well close the thread. You pretended to ask a question, several people gave you some very informed answers, and you throw it all out the window and respond with a Bible verse you already had memorized. If you have no intention of listening to others, why ask the question in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Theophane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@Theophane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Theophane)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618/22 "2012-01-15T22:39:33Z")
> [@Polycarp](#): > > That would be from the King Vern Jamesion? šŸ™‚ Yes, youā€™ve heard of it? Itā€™s like the King James Version, but with the letters scrambled. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![NinjaChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@NinjaChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinjaChick)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618/23 "2012-01-15T22:42:45Z")
Well, first we gotta clarify our terms a bit. [Medal of _Honor_](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medal_of_Honor). [One of](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Safety_Officer_Medal_of_Valor) [several](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medal_of_Valor) civilian decorations called the Medal of Valor. > [@God or Matthew or King James or whoever](#): > > 8Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; > > 9And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. > > 10Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. So, uhā€¦gonna go with crazy. ---
**Author:** ![Theophane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@Theophane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Theophane)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618/24 "2012-01-15T23:04:09Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Itā€™s just a star. If it is just a star, thatā€™s okay by me. ---
**Author:** ![ExVoxMachina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/59ef9b/32.png) [@ExVoxMachina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExVoxMachina)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618/25 "2012-01-15T23:08:57Z")
> [@Theophane](#): > > The inversion of a five-pointed star does have meaning, and the US, like the rest of the world, is owned by Satan (KVJ Mat. 4:8-10). Damn, I thought it was just a rental. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618/26 "2012-01-15T23:13:05Z")
> [@Theophane](#): > > The inversion of a five-pointed star does have meaning, and the US, like the rest of the world, is owned by Satan (KVJ Mat. 4:8-10). I donā€™t think so, unless he can show a clear title. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_T](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Gary\_T](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_T)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618/27 "2012-01-15T23:16:58Z")
> [@Theophane](#): > > The inversion of a five-pointed star does have meaningā€¦ It may have meaning to _you_, but it doesnā€™t have meaning the overwhelming majority of the rest of the world, including those who designed the medal youā€™ve asked about. To them and us, itā€™s just a star. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618/28 "2012-01-15T23:23:08Z")
> [@Theophane](#): > > If it is just a star, thatā€™s okay by me. And now do _you_ believe that it is just a star? ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618/29 "2012-01-15T23:46:48Z")
> [@Theophane](#): > > Is the US Medal of Valor a Satanic pentagram or am I crazy? :eek: Youā€™re crazy. ---
**Author:** ![Theophane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@Theophane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Theophane)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618/30 "2012-01-15T23:54:24Z")
> [@ExVoxMachina](#): > > Damn, I thought it was just a rental. Nope. Why do you think thereā€™s so much evil and darkness in the world? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2012, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618/31 "2012-01-15T23:59:21Z")
> [@Theophane](#): > > Nope. Why do you think thereā€™s so much evil and darkness in the world? Well, thereā€™s darkness in those parts of the world where the local time is between dusk and dawn. I would think this would not be that difficult to understand. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618/32 "2012-01-16T00:17:04Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > The five pointed star is a common symbol in American iconography. Although itā€™s usually point up, inverting it doesnā€™t have any particular meaning. Iā€™m no expert in occult symbology, but Iā€™ve heard it claimed that two-points-up represents the Devilā€™s horns and black magic, while one point up represents white magic. But I _rather doubt_ that was a consideration in the design of the Medal, even if that system isnā€™t a more recent invention than the Medal. > [@Theophane](#): > > Nope. Why do you think thereā€™s so much evil and darkness in the world? God? Seriously; if you can blame Satan, why canā€™t I blame God? Or maybe itā€™s Osirus. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618/33 "2012-01-16T00:40:46Z")
> [@Theophane](#): > > If it is just a star, thatā€™s okay by me. Of course itā€™s just a star. Why would it be anything else? ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618/34 "2012-01-16T00:44:34Z")
> [@Theophane](#): > > Nope. Why do you think thereā€™s so much evil and darkness in the world? 42? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618/35 "2012-01-16T00:49:41Z")
> [@Theophane](#): > > Nope. Why do you think thereā€™s so much evil and darkness in the world? Teh gays? ---
**Author:** ![MostlyClueless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@MostlyClueless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MostlyClueless)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618/36 "2012-01-16T00:52:49Z")
No you silly. The gays control the weather and earthquakes. Itā€™s them democrats who are to be blamed for all the actual _evil_ in the world. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618/37 "2012-01-16T01:06:06Z")
Good observation. Honor, valor, gallantry: these are all Satanic. ā€œRun! Save your ass! Donā€™t even have a fucking war in the first place!ā€ These are very human virtues. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618/38 "2012-01-16T02:32:47Z")
> [@Theophane](#): > > The inversion of a five-pointed star does have meaning, and the US, like the rest of the world, is owned by Satan (KVJ Mat. 4:8-10). Did I ever tell yā€™all about the time I tried to summon up a demon and sell my soul? I couldnā€™t even get a SMALL demon to appear, and there have been no offers for my soul, either. So either Iā€™m already so evil that Satan figures itā€™s not worth his time to make me an offerā€¦or there is no Satan. Which is it? šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![ExVoxMachina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/59ef9b/32.png) [@ExVoxMachina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExVoxMachina)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618/39 "2012-01-16T02:33:55Z")
> [@Theophane](#): > > Nope. Why do you think thereā€™s so much evil and darkness in the world? Auto-tune and almost butter? ---
**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2012, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618/40 "2012-01-16T03:13:52Z")
> [@Theophane](#): > > Nope. Why do you think thereā€™s so much evil and darkness in the world? I donā€™t see any more evil and darkness in the world than there has ever beenā€¦ same as it ever wasā€¦ forever and ever amen. Maybe a little thing like man with a binary, bipolar, programmed and hardwired brain, with big egos, culture, religion, financial concerns, and a categorizing view of reality, lineating and prejudicing people, places, and things as strictly bad and good, wrong and right, are to blame? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618.md?page=3)