# The US Medal of Valor a Satanic pentagram? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 15, 2012, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618 "2012-01-15T17:44:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618/61 "2012-01-18T21:12:21Z")
Where did the OP go? Did the Army or Satan get him for noticing the pentagram in the Medal of Valor? ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618/62 "2012-01-18T22:09:00Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > Did I ever tell y’all about the time I tried to summon up a demon and sell my soul? > > I couldn’t even get a SMALL demon to appear, and there have been no offers for my soul, either. > > So either I’m already so evil that Satan figures it’s not worth his time to make me an offer…or there is no Satan. Which is it? 😛 [It’s your own damn fault](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=154897&highlight=Satan+banned), you and **Tuba** and **Dex**! 😛 > [@handsomeharry](#): > > Did you just make this up? It’s hilarious, and I’m gonna steal it, and I want to know from whom I’m plagiarizing… > > Thx Sure. My pleasure. ---
**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618/63 "2012-01-18T22:21:39Z")
> [@Theophane](#): > > The inversion of a five-pointed star does have meaning, and the US, like the rest of the world, is owned by Satan (KVJ Mat. 4:8-10). So, I assume we’re all going with “crazy,” correct? ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618/64 "2012-01-18T22:36:06Z")
I like the hypothesis that because it is a pendant, that two contact points to the associated necklace/ribbon make a much more solid connection. And since the USA flag uses five pointed stars (for varying reasons), it is only expect that the most prestigious award use that same symbol. It is not as we, as a nonJewish country could have stolen the six-pointed star of David. Or the Seven pointed star of Macedonia and Alexander the Great. After that is gets kind of silly. And a four pointed star looks like the Star of Bethlehem, and that my fellow Dopers is just … uh… dumb. So, looks like we are stuck with 5. Any arguments? ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618/65 "2012-01-18T22:48:54Z")
> [@Gagundathar](#): > > I like the hypothesis that because it is a pendant, that two contact points to the associated necklace/ribbon make a much more solid connection. And since the USA flag uses five pointed stars (for varying reasons), it is only expect that the most prestigious award use that same symbol. But the Bronze Star and Silver Star are also pendants, yet are only connected to their respective ribbon via a single point. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618/66 "2012-01-18T23:03:54Z")
It also kinda traces a “V”. I wonder what that could stand for, in context. ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618/67 "2012-01-18T23:09:07Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > But the Bronze Star and Silver Star are also pendants, yet are only connected to their respective ribbon via a single point. Hey, I didn’t say it made sense. Come on man. 🙂 You have a good point. Maybe they deliberately made the Medal of Valor differently on purpose because it, like the Eagle Scout medallion is significantly different that that of Life or Star. It is an interesting question. But, as a nonChristian I will bet you dollars to donuts that it isn’t Satanic. ETA: And it does look like a ‘V’. And it does look cool. Have you ever seen one in real life? I have. They are the epitome of cool. I mean if you were kind of kid who grew up playing ‘Army’. And were in the service. ---
**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618/68 "2012-01-18T23:38:38Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > But the Bronze Star and Silver Star are also pendants, yet are only connected to their respective ribbon via a single point. Yes but the MoH design original design had an eagle perched between the points. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2012, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618/69 "2012-01-18T23:47:48Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Heh, I’ll give you half a Mars bar for it if you’re still selling that ratty old thing. Nah, it’s gotta be worth more than that. I want a Dove bar at least, if I can’t get some Godiva. Dark chocolate, naturally. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-us-medal-of-valor-a-satanic-pentagram/609618.md?page=3)