# The very beginning...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-beginning/114867>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [June 19, 2002, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-beginning/114867 "2002-06-19T14:33:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![epraz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/82dd89/32.png) [@epraz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epraz)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2002, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-beginning/114867/21 "2002-06-20T22:45:19Z")

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OK, let’s assume that time-related words are uneccesary, and that maybe nothing needs to “cause” anything as we currently think of cause and effect. However, even if time is irrelevant, something did produce our current situation. what was it?

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