# The very overdue pitting of Susanann **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 22, 2011, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-overdue-pitting-of-susanann/590032 "2011-07-22T21:22:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-overdue-pitting-of-susanann/590032/61 "2011-07-23T01:39:05Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > See, now you’re doing the same thing the OP did. 😃 > > I didn’t say it was a “plan”; I said it was a way to deal with the country’s financial woes. You didn’t. **Susanann** did. And while I recognize that you two are very much alike, this is not in fact your Pitting. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-overdue-pitting-of-susanann/590032/62 "2011-07-23T01:40:25Z")
> [@](#): > > …Is it just me, or isn’t that obvious and a given? I don’t communicate with strangers online for myself, but as an act of generosity towards them. ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-overdue-pitting-of-susanann/590032/63 "2011-07-23T02:03:46Z")
> [@ZipperJJ](#): > > I’m too lazy to look up the rules about calling other posters socks. Can we do that or not? > > If we could, I would say “Hi **chiroptera** , **Susann** ’s sock!” > > But if that’s against the rules, I won’t. Ha! That’s exactly what I thought when Chiro showed up as the only person to defend her. I find it absolutely hilarious to post on a message board about how all people that post on message boards are losers. So, Chiroptera? Lemme give you a hearty “Fuck You”. And if doing so also conveys the message to Susann, that’s an efficient 2 birds scenario. ---
**Author:** ![Pyper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Pyper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pyper)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-overdue-pitting-of-susanann/590032/64 "2011-07-23T02:20:20Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > This thread is going to be a fucking circus. And when it’s over, they’ll take us all out back and shoot us. > [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > Anybody else misread this as “ **The very overdue pitting of Saruman** ”? Goddamn that creeper Saruman, always spying on me with his goddamn palantir! Get a life! ---
**Author:** ![Nametag](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nametag/32/406_2.png) [@Nametag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nametag)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-overdue-pitting-of-susanann/590032/65 "2011-07-23T02:27:58Z")
She was the very first person I put on “Ignore”. It’s still a pretty short list; I explained in [one thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=543945) how I choose these people: > [@](#): > > I have ignored a handful of people who met three criteria: > > 1. Never said anything worthwhile; > 2. Always said something infuriating; > 3. Posted a LOT. > > I can overlook any two of these, but combining all three in one person is just two much for my sanity. That was back in 2009; since then, the number has increased significantly, but it’s still a pretty short list. Susanann is still “the person whose posts I’m most glad I don’t see.” ---
**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-overdue-pitting-of-susanann/590032/66 "2011-07-23T02:29:03Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > My personal favorites are her assertions that Republicans have been great for black people because Republicans want everyone to have guns and supported the development of GPS. > > I guess the real “Southern Strategy” was to make sure all black Americans could, um, head south. _My_ personal favorite was her assertion that it was illegal for women to wear pants before the 1970s. I’ve since wondered how Mary Tyler Moore avoided being thrown into the slammer during her tenure as TV’s Laura Petrie. You know, like the Lenny Bruce of sitcoms. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-overdue-pitting-of-susanann/590032/67 "2011-07-23T02:33:39Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > You didn’t. **Susanann** did. Like I said, spending reduction is (or would be) a plan except that your crowd is always opposed to it. More spending, greater debt, bigger government and ever-increasing taxes - it’s the Democrat way. And it can’t go on forever! Tell me the truth, how many parents do you think would raise their children to handle their finances the way the federal government does? And what would you think of them if they did? > [@Bosstone](#): > > And while I recognize that you two are very much alike, this is not in fact your Pitting. No, it’s not. But you decided to challenge and insult me simply for pointing out that in this one instance, **Susanann** did not say what the OP said she did, nor does she have the attitude on that issue that the OP sought to convince people she had. YOU are the reason we are going back and forth here. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-overdue-pitting-of-susanann/590032/68 "2011-07-23T02:45:47Z")
She is just a typical right winger. Desperate to fin-d a way to justify outrageous selfish self serving beliefs. It is not easy. ---
**Author:** ![moejoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@moejoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moejoe)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-overdue-pitting-of-susanann/590032/69 "2011-07-23T02:49:17Z")
hijack alert: > [@SpoilerVirgin](#): > > Maybe it’s just because I’m a Watergate buff…snip Ooh me too! I’m just now finally reading the Dean book and it’s keeping me up at night! ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-overdue-pitting-of-susanann/590032/70 "2011-07-23T02:49:24Z")
> [@splatterpunk](#): > > _My_ personal favorite was her assertion that it was illegal for women to wear pants before the 1970s. I was wondering about this so I searched and found [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=2787604), in which she said: > [@pants: a right or a privilege?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pants-a-right-or-a-privilege/145378/4): > > As one of the original womens libbers, and an avid womens historian, I can tell you that it was illegal!!! for women to wear pants in most states until the 1970’s. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-overdue-pitting-of-susanann/590032/71 "2011-07-23T02:53:01Z")
Not just illegal but illegal!!!, mind. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-overdue-pitting-of-susanann/590032/72 "2011-07-23T02:57:26Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > She is just a typical right winger. Desperate to fin-d a way to justify outrageous selfish self serving beliefs. It is not easy. In other words, she opposes you confiscating her legitimately obtained stuff on behalf of yourself and someone else. Tell ya what, **gonzo**. How’s about I somehow find out where you live and then go find the nearest homeless guy and bring him to your house. And then lets allow him come in and look over your belongings and your income records and decide for himself what he should be entitled to take for himself because you have more than he does. I’d bet we’d find out you’re just as “selfish” as anyone else. There is only the most scant difference between this scenario and what you want the government to do to those who have more than you think they should - which, so far as I can tell, is almost everybody. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-overdue-pitting-of-susanann/590032/73 "2011-07-23T03:11:34Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > In other words, she opposes you confiscating her legitimately obtained stuff on behalf of yourself and someone else. > > Tell ya what, **gonzo**. How’s about I somehow find out where you live and then go find the nearest homeless guy and bring him to your house. And then lets allow him come in and look over your belongings and your income records and decide for himself what he should be entitled to take for himself because you have more than he does. I’d bet we’d find out you’re just as “selfish” as anyone else. > > There is only the most scant difference between this scenario and what you want the government to do to those who have more than you think they should - which, so far as I can tell, is almost everybody. Do you have any idea what a crappy argument that is? Of course not, sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-overdue-pitting-of-susanann/590032/74 "2011-07-23T03:24:20Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > In other words, she opposes you confiscating her legitimately obtained stuff on behalf of yourself and someone else. > > Tell ya what, **gonzo**. How’s about I somehow find out where you live and then go find the nearest homeless guy and bring him to your house. And then lets allow him come in and look over your belongings and your income records and decide for himself what he should be entitled to take for himself because you have more than he does. I’d bet we’d find out you’re just as “selfish” as anyone else. > > There is only the most scant difference between this scenario and what you want the government to do to those who have more than you think they should - which, so far as I can tell, is almost everybody. This is what happens in socialist countries all the time. Roaming bands of homeless people converge on our homes, with full support of the law, and pillage our stuff. It sucks, but at least we don’t have any worries about raising the debt ceiling. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-overdue-pitting-of-susanann/590032/75 "2011-07-23T03:26:39Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > In other words, she opposes you confiscating her legitimately obtained stuff on behalf of yourself and someone else. > > Tell ya what, **gonzo**. How’s about I somehow find out where you live and then go find the nearest homeless guy and bring him to your house… I’d be very surprised if he did such a thing, I’d be utterly astounded if you did. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-overdue-pitting-of-susanann/590032/76 "2011-07-23T03:49:18Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Like I said, spending reduction is (or would be) a plan except that your crowd is always opposed to it. Oh for god’s sake. :smack: No, not continuing this conversation. I’ve bloodied my head against that wall quite enough. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-overdue-pitting-of-susanann/590032/77 "2011-07-23T04:05:26Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > This is what happens in socialist countries all the time. Roaming bands of homeless people converge on our homes, with full support of the law, and pillage our stuff. The point is that we who oppose higher taxes and forced income redistribution are no more selfish than **gonzo** would be in the scenario where he would very likely object to a random stranger helping himself to some of **gonzo’s** stuff or money for no other reason than than he needs it more than **gonzo** does. Apart from the fact that the government has declared it legal to do so, there is little difference between the scenario I proposed to **gonzomax** and what the government is constantly attempting to do to the rest of us. Still, my main complaint right now though is **gonzomax’s** never-ending assertion that anyone who doesn’t willingly roll over and allow the government to take whatever it wants from them and spend it on someone else, is by definition “selfish”. It’s much more selfish in my opinion to insist that people give up their hard-earned money (and the “stuff” it can provide for them and their faimilies) so it can be spent in the way YOU happen to favor. If people like **gonzo** want to play rescuer to the country’s downtrodden with his own money, that’s fine. But he has no right to insist that everyone else play along and then call them selfish if they see things differently. We are to the point now where less than half of American wage-earners are paying any income tax at all. People in this country who live in perfectly comfortable houses and drive perfectly servicable cars are nevertheless getting food stamps and other forms of government assistance. The income level where people are entitled to help from everyone else is constantly increasing, as are the cries that we do even more. It is impossible to feed the beast that is people like **gonzomax** ; it always wants more. People look around and they see that half of the people they see aren’t paying any income tax; they see people getting five year’s worth of unemployment checks; they see people living in nice homes getting food stamps, etc., etc., and they think that we’ve done enough already. And they are not “selfish” for thinking that. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-overdue-pitting-of-susanann/590032/78 "2011-07-23T04:05:53Z")
> [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > If I’m not mistaken, I believe she once insisted that the reason the Nazis never invaded Switzerland was because Switzerland had a policy of no surrender, which supposedly made the prospect of fighting them in a war an ordeal too terrible to contemplate. Not the mountains or the overwhelming lack of strategic purpose for such an invasion. Nope, it was Swiss super-soldiers (and their _very_ fancy bayonets). I believe that was also the same thread where she insisted that if the Jews had kept guns in their homes the Holocaust would never have happened. Anyway her and Recovering Republican are the captains of derailing on this board. You know that once you see them post, you can pretty give up any hopes of having a rational discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-overdue-pitting-of-susanann/590032/79 "2011-07-23T04:09:08Z")
> [@What do you believe about the Kennedy assassination?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-do-you-believe-about-the-kennedy-assassination/587443/91): > > Not the same thing at all. > > Dorothy Killgallen was a respected, intelligent, trusted, classy, credible, mainstream, admired journalist… something we don’t even have today. Dorothy Killgalen was the only person allowed to interview Jack Ruby alone because of her outstanding impeccable reputation. > (Please do not try to compare the credible journalist Dorothy Killgalen with the likes of show biz media sensationalists such as Geraldo, Jerry Springer, or Ann Coulter) This was the part that did my head in. She says this about a pill popping, drunken gossip columnist. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-overdue-pitting-of-susanann/590032/80 "2011-07-23T04:10:23Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > More spending, greater debt, bigger government and ever-increasing taxes - it’s the Democrat way. And it can’t go on forever! You know what, I almost didn’t include the quote about the deficit but I’m glad I did, because it drew out the conservatrolls like you. Guess what: THIS ISN’T THE FUCKING STARVING ARTIST SHOW. :checks watch: NO, STILL NOT ABOUT YOU. You are so utterly fucking predictable, and at the same time the singlehandedly most annoying poster on this board. We are doing the equivalent of pointing and laughing at the crazy person on the streetcorner with signs telling us “The World Is Ending” and you have to jump in, yet again, to say, “Well Senorita CrazyBalls over there has a good point”. No, she doesn’t. And neither do you. You fucking insane old coot. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-overdue-pitting-of-susanann/590032.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-overdue-pitting-of-susanann/590032.md?page=5)