# The Very Very Straight Dope

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-very-straight-dope/570571>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [February 7, 2011, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-very-straight-dope/570571 "2011-02-07T20:44:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![AshenLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@AshenLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AshenLady)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-very-straight-dope/570571/1 "2011-02-07T20:44:41Z")

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[http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=17&ved=0CFEQFjAGOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.conceptwizard.com%2Fpipeline\_of\_hatred.html&ei=CFhQTajVBYPqgQeexKUE&usg=AFQjCNGOyDyV4oz3zhyY\_BYvOpjv3MgKyw&sig2=hQdQQKA7sCbsdYT51LmsyA](http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=17&ved=0CFEQFjAGOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.conceptwizard.com%2Fpipeline_of_hatred.html&ei=CFhQTajVBYPqgQeexKUE&usg=AFQjCNGOyDyV4oz3zhyY_BYvOpjv3MgKyw&sig2=hQdQQKA7sCbsdYT51LmsyA)

An Inconvenient Truth.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-very-straight-dope/570571/2 "2011-02-07T20:46:39Z")

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> [@AshenLady](#):
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> [Redirect Notice](http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=17&ved=0CFEQFjAGOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.conceptwizard.com%2Fpipeline_of_hatred.html&ei=CFhQTajVBYPqgQeexKUE&usg=AFQjCNGOyDyV4oz3zhyY_BYvOpjv3MgKyw&sig2=hQdQQKA7sCbsdYT51LmsyA)
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> An Inconvenient Truth.

TLDR, what do you want to debate?

Lone links without commentary are not generally received well here.

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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-very-straight-dope/570571/3 "2011-02-07T20:51:31Z")

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I’m gay. So it’s not completely straight.

P.S. What are you talking about?

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**Author:** ![AshenLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@AshenLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AshenLady)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-very-straight-dope/570571/4 "2011-02-07T20:52:36Z")

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Sometimes the “straight dope” isn’t well received, either.

No one wants to hear or see what they don’t want to see or hear and certainly not in a forum where we have so many self-appointed experts and intelligentsia.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-very-straight-dope/570571/5 "2011-02-07T20:53:09Z")

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I sure as hell am not following a link that runs past the hovertext.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-very-straight-dope/570571/6 "2011-02-07T20:53:53Z")

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> [@AshenLady](#):
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> Sometimes the “straight dope” isn’t well received, either.
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> No one wants to hear or see what they don’t want to see or hear and certainly not in a forum where we have so many self-appointed experts and intelligentsia.

What is the topic of debate here?

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-very-straight-dope/570571/7 "2011-02-07T20:54:09Z")

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Why don’t you summarize, in your own words, what’s contained in the link you posted? Or else quote the leading paragraph or two?

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**Author:** ![AshenLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@AshenLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AshenLady)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-very-straight-dope/570571/8 "2011-02-07T20:54:23Z")

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> [@stpauler](#):
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> I’m gay. So it’s not completely straight.
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> P.S. What are you talking about?

I am talking about the re-ligitimization of anti-semitism, as though it ever went away, which it never really did. It has always been just below the surface, and lately, not even.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-very-straight-dope/570571/9 "2011-02-07T20:56:59Z")

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You think it’s present and accepted _here_? Got a link or two?

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**Author:** ![AshenLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@AshenLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AshenLady)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-very-straight-dope/570571/10 "2011-02-07T20:57:06Z")

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I don’t have to be “politically correct” because I am a big girl and I can take the “slings and arrows of outrageous fortune”.

Fire away, all you want.

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**Author:** ![AshenLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@AshenLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AshenLady)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-very-straight-dope/570571/11 "2011-02-07T20:58:10Z")

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> [@lieu](#):
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> You think it’s present and accepted _here_? Got a link or two?

Start with one, “The Pipeline of Hatred”. Anti-semitism 101, as it were.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-very-straight-dope/570571/12 "2011-02-07T20:58:28Z")

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> [@AshenLady](#):
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> I don’t have to be “politically correct” because I am a big girl and I can take the “slings and arrows of outrageous fortune”.
> 
> Fire away, all you want.

Please state what is being debated here, please.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-very-straight-dope/570571/13 "2011-02-07T20:59:42Z")

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I took a look. It appears to be a PowerPoint presentation about radical Islam promoting anti-Semitism, though you have to click through quite a few cards before you can actually see what it’s about.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-very-straight-dope/570571/14 "2011-02-07T21:01:31Z")

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I tried to watch that film. I really did. But after 10 minutes of Al Gore talking at me like I was a 5th grader, I gave up. But I’m not one of those ant-global warming folks he was targeting anyway.

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-very-straight-dope/570571/15 "2011-02-07T21:03:39Z")

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> [@AshenLady](#):
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> Fire away, all you want.

You don’t seem to understand what a debate is.

You say something. Someone disagrees. You both present evidence and arguments for your respective viewpoints.

But you have to start off by actually making a claim of some sort.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-very-straight-dope/570571/16 "2011-02-07T21:04:01Z")

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> [@AshenLady](#):
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> I don’t have to be “politically correct” because I am a big girl and I can take the “slings and arrows of outrageous fortune”.
> 
> Fire away, all you want.

“The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune” is bad stuff happening to you outside your control, like your uncle killing your father and marrying your mother. Not criticism caused by your own super-edgy non-PCness.

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**Author:** ![Nadir](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nadir/32/7302_2.png) [@Nadir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nadir)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-very-straight-dope/570571/17 "2011-02-07T21:04:03Z")

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> [@AshenLady](#):
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> I am talking about the re-ligitimization of anti-semitism…

Maybe instead of the pre-conceived conclusion to an unnamed debate, something like “The Re-Legitimization of Anti-Semitism” would have been a better thread topic?

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-very-straight-dope/570571/18 "2011-02-07T21:04:22Z")

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> [@AshenLady](#):
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> I don’t have to be “politically correct” because I am a big girl and I can take the “slings and arrows of outrageous fortune”.
> 
> Fire away, all you want.

Your courage is an inspiration to us all.

Or at least, that’s what I would say, if only I wasn’t too afraid of angering the self-appointed experts and intelligentsia around here.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-very-straight-dope/570571/19 "2011-02-07T21:05:32Z")

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Well, I can think of one Jewish person I’m starting to dislike intensely.  
I’ve come a long way from those pre-school days at Temple Emanu El.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-very-very-straight-dope/570571/20 "2011-02-07T21:05:53Z")

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Wtf? Are we seriously supposed to sit through a (crappy) PowerPoint presentation?

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