# The Virginia Tech Chokies **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 7, 2010, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-virginia-tech-chokies/552881 "2010-09-07T03:29:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-virginia-tech-chokies/552881/61 "2010-09-09T03:12:13Z")
> [@treis](#): > > If BSU wants respect they have to do more than just one game and then cream puffs. They have to find a way to get tougher OOC opponents than Wyoming and Toledo. If that means a road game, then thats what it means. Go on the road and beat a few teams in a year and then they will get some national title talk. Which is exactly how FSU got to where they are. Look at the late 70’s-early 80’s. Lots of road games with big names (with no home stand). We got so good at it that they have a name “turf games”. When we win, we bring back grass from the field and bury it. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-virginia-tech-chokies/552881/62 "2010-09-09T05:55:47Z")
Since when are people saying how great Boise State is? As far as I can tell, just this year. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-virginia-tech-chokies/552881/63 "2010-09-09T14:27:20Z")
Is this your first year following college football? People have been bitching about Boise State being left out of the BCS Championship game for like 4 years. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-virginia-tech-chokies/552881/64 "2010-09-09T16:41:12Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Is this your first year following college football? People have been bitching about Boise State being left out of the BCS Championship game for like 4 years. Which is not even close to the same thing as saying they’re great. Every single thing I’ve heard about the argument, until recently is “they’d probably lose, but since they’re undefeated they should have a chance through a playoff system.” ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-virginia-tech-chokies/552881/65 "2010-09-09T20:14:13Z")
> [@Hawkeyeop](#): > > I hope Boise plays for the title if they go undefeated. The players, who didn’t make the schedule, will have defeated every opponent placed in front of them. Is there any other sport where you can win every game and not be champion? Not as far as i know. But, then again, in what other sport are the participants in the championship game or series decided by a vote, based on nebulous, subjective assessments of who the two best teams might be? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-virginia-tech-chokies/552881/66 "2010-09-09T20:15:52Z")
Ice dancing. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2010, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-virginia-tech-chokies/552881/67 "2010-09-11T20:18:25Z")
Hokies lost to James Madison. :eek: :smack: Boise State supporters cannot be pleased. Bad year for the ACC thus far. Ga Tech just lost to Kansas who lost to North Dakota State. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2010, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-virginia-tech-chokies/552881/68 "2010-09-11T20:23:40Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Ice dancing. True enough. And i’ve argued, in previous threads on the subject, that sports with purely subjective judging criteria like this (gymnastics, ice dancing, etc.) should be booted out of the Olympics. ---
**Author:** ![sitchensis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sitchensis/32/4892_2.png) [@sitchensis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sitchensis)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2010, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-virginia-tech-chokies/552881/69 "2010-09-11T20:24:29Z")
I feel bad for Boise State, this was gonna be the year but now the Hokies suck. They will drop hard by the time the BCS polls come out. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2010, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-virginia-tech-chokies/552881/70 "2010-09-11T21:09:51Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > > [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > > > Ice dancing. > > True enough. > > And i’ve argued, in previous threads on the subject, that sports with purely subjective judging criteria like this (gymnastics, ice dancing, etc.) should be booted out of the Olympics. That wasn’t supposed to be a _defense_. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-virginia-tech-chokies/552881/71 "2010-09-12T04:08:57Z")
Vagina Tech was bloodied by James Madison. They will not sniff the top 25 again this year. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-virginia-tech-chokies/552881/72 "2010-09-12T05:00:25Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Vagina Tech was bloodied by James Madison. They will not sniff the top 25 again this year. No… But they can still win the ACC!!! It’s going to be a crazy year all around. I can feel it. ---
**Author:** ![Roland\_Orzabal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@Roland\_Orzabal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roland_Orzabal)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-virginia-tech-chokies/552881/73 "2010-09-12T09:37:28Z")
Holy balls “we” lost to JMU. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HA HA HAHAHAHAHAHA. Excuse me, I have some friends to mock. Whee! ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-virginia-tech-chokies/552881/74 "2010-09-12T14:07:02Z")
> [@sitchensis](#): > > I feel bad for Boise State, this was gonna be the year but now the Hokies suck. They will drop hard by the time the BCS polls come out. I don’t. If the Hokies are bad and Boise state barely beat them, what does that say about Boise? Meanwhile, Alabama dominated Penn State, after a microscopic 2 game sample, those teams hardly look on par, do they? ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-virginia-tech-chokies/552881/75 "2010-09-13T20:29:58Z")
BSU: “We’ll play James Madison any time! Bring 'em on!” ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-virginia-tech-chokies/552881/76 "2010-09-21T18:49:02Z")
> [@Cyberhwk](#): > > > [@furt](#): > > > > They like their schedules just fine. > > Then why are the SEC and Big 10 fan boys already complaining that their future 1-loss team should get preference due to their tough schedule? Sounds to me like they’re PLENTY unhappy. They are happy with their schedules. They like having 3-6 games a year against top-25 teams, half of them on the road. They don’t like _Boise’s_ schedule, which in any given year includes 1-2 games against ranked teams. They don’t like the fact that Boise can give themselves an easier schedule and get equal respect. > [@](#): > > > [@furt](#): > > > > If Boise was willing to play two-for-ones, or even two-for-threes or some other thing, they could have 3-4 games a year vs. BCS teams every season. Since they refuse to do so, I have no problem holding their weak schedule against them. > > So bend over and get screwed by signing uneven contracts with bigger schools or else we’ll just refuse to recognize their ability and skill on the field? > > No, Boise State has done everything the BCS has asked of them. Give them the big time Fiesta Bowl game…they knock off Oklahoma. Oh, crap you beat some great teams…then then they throw them in with TCU in the “Non-AQ E for Effort” Bowl last year. Play better opponents…they schedule Oregon, Oregon State, Southern Miss, and Virginia Tech. > > They shouldn’t have to jump for anybody at this point. > > **IF** BSU goes undefeated and they don’t allow them in, I don’t see how the BCS survives. The BCS argues that everyone has a chance at the National Championship. Boise State sits at 3/3 in both polls at the moment. If they win every single game from here on out and not move (provided Bama and OSU lose), there’s no way the BCS can keep arguing this. It’s not about the BCS. It’s about the recognition of the fans/media/coaches; and no, I for one don’t think they will deserve more credit than an 11-1 SEC team. They have to jump for me if they want my esteem. More importantly, they have to jump for the people who do the polls, who know full well how a tough week-in-week-out grind is harder than a one-game showdown followed by a string of patsies. It would be really simple for them: sign three two-for-one deals with big schools. Then add a I-AA creampuff. Along with their conference schedule that would give them six home games, so there’s no lost revenue. Their schedule would still be easier than any BCS teams’ but they could credibly say they were doing their best to play a tough slate. As it is, they are not. I feel bad for the players, who can plausibly say they defeated every challenge before them. At the same time, they knew or should have known Boise’s place on the national stage, and the fact that Boise does not seek out a tougher schedule, and does _not_ have an “anyone, anytime” attitude. If the sanctity of an undefeated season was important to them, they could have chosen 1-AA (or walked on at a PAC-10 school). ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-virginia-tech-chokies/552881/77 "2010-09-25T02:46:22Z")
If you guys don’t read the blog Every Day Should be Saturday, I recommend it. Here’s their twitter preview of the Oregon State v. Boise State Game: > [@](#): > > Oregon State vs. Boise State: Kellen blushed. “You shouldn’t have.” “Cinderella needs slippers,” Brent said. He poured the beer into the shoe. In the hot tub, they drank. I don’t care who you are, if you are a college football fan, that’s comedy gold! ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-virginia-tech-chokies/552881/78 "2010-09-28T04:09:17Z")
I watched Boise closely. They look very fast. They hit hard and tackle securely. They are better than i thought they would be. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-virginia-tech-chokies/552881.md?page=3)