# The Visit (newest M. Night Shyamalan movie)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 19, 2015, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-visit-newest-m-night-shyamalan-movie/731720 "2015-09-19T00:44:52Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 23, 2016, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-visit-newest-m-night-shyamalan-movie/731720/61 "2016-08-23T18:08:16Z")

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> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> Okay. It’s just not unique to these two films, and by “not unique” I mean that I wouldn’t even consider it a significant comparative point. There’s probably a TV Tropes page of “Mr. Nice Guy turns out to be the Big Bad.”
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> ETA: Listing mostly Robin Cook novels and the films made from them. 🙂 God, I hated reading a third Cook novel to find it was the same plot yet again.

So? A plot twist is not defined by how common it is.

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2016, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-visit-newest-m-night-shyamalan-movie/731720/62 "2016-08-23T18:11:17Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> Because the twist in the Usual Suspects changes the entire movie and the one in Unbreakable is just an explanation.

In what sense? You could have The Usual Suspects with Verbal Kint limping away from the station, and it would still be a movie. Exactly like Unbreakable. Conversely, both reveals bring new light to the plot we’ve watched up until that moment. So where’s the difference?

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2016, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-visit-newest-m-night-shyamalan-movie/731720/63 "2016-08-23T19:10:49Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> Because the twist in the Usual Suspects changes the entire movie and the one in Unbreakable is just an explanation.

But both are twists.

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**Post date:** [August 23, 2016, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-visit-newest-m-night-shyamalan-movie/731720/64 "2016-08-23T22:50:55Z")

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> [@DigitalC](#):
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> Yeah, the morning after the puking incident the girl sat down with the grandfather and he explained it.

He said she had a stomach flu. “Must have been a 24-hour thing”. I got the impression he’s lying, but maybe not.

This was a full day before the sundowning explanation, which would tie into her eating stuff that’s bad.

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