Just for kicks, compare and contrast the bolded segment in the first post with the second post. Then, if your thoughts were along the lines of the second post, check your privilege. Congrats, D’Anconia, you completely proved Lord Feldon’s point. 
It comes naturally to you, ergo you can’t figure out why anyone else struggles. That is, in a nutshell, the concept of privilege.
While “Filling out paperwork” is not innate, it is something that normal people learn before they graduate high school. :rolleyes:
Are the 20% or so of Americans that don’t graduate high school “normal” in your opinion?
20%? That would be well below normal.
Your blanket claim of an ID required isn’t reasonable. Would you be OK with my being a non-terrorist, legitimate voter based upon what I say here?
I don’t smoke. I don’t need an ID to buy alcohol. Every liquor store in town knows me (!)
Don’t need one, I already have one. Several, even.
Don’t need #1 & 2, and medicare and social security IDs haven’t been asked for 20 years. 20 years ago, they weren’t required.
Don’t need a job, and I’m not unemployed.
I’ve never applied for a job where I wasn’t pre-requested. Even if my ID said I was Saddam Goddamn Hassein, I would have been hired.
Don’t need to rent, I own my own home
Don’t need a mortgage
I bought my car with cash. No ID required. If they didn’t accept my cash, there were a dozen dealers eager to accept my greenbacks.
Not in my future
ditto.
Only if things get worse
Not a problem. Fido, ya want a home, a meal and a bed?
Never met a dog yet that wanted an ID before accepting a biscuit.
Hasn’t been a problem for the last 20 years.
Don’t hunt or fish
Had a cellphone for 40 years, never showed an ID
You’re not serious
not gonna happen
My drugs for the last 40 years came from the VA, and they come in the mail
Don’t be silly
Never in 50 years has a credit card app asked me for a photo ID
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I am not a bottom-feeding, low-life, indigent, welfare-receiving groveler, but based on your criterion, I would be denied the right to vote for more than one reason.
And you can bet your goddamn ass that I didn’t vote republican in the last election.
You have several bank accounts now. How did you get the first one(s) without some form of ID?
Onceuponatime, IDs weren’t as ubiquitous as now. You said you were X, then you were X.
When, back in the Stone Age?
And if IDs are as ubiquitous as you say, why don’t people have them to vote?
Just how old do you think I am? Too old to vote?
I didn’t say they were ubiquitous, just that a lack of “formal” ID shouldn’t make someone ineligible to vote.
I once applied for a bank account, and wanted to make sure any deposits would be accepted under three (similar) names I had used for 35 years. The bank refused to accept one of the names – the most important one, and the one on my Driver’s License. So I went elsewhere, and had no problem with another bank.
Do you read your own posts? That’s exactly what you said, and I quote:
“Onceuponatime, IDs weren’t as ubiquitous as now.”
Well, this is going to be embarrassing for you. Let’s make things easier to understand by un-contracting and capitalizing some words that you’ve apparently missed (and I’m just going solely by what you yourself typed!):
“I did NOT say they were ubiquitous, just that a lack of “formal” ID shouldn’t make someone ineligible to vote…”
“Onceuponatime, IDs were NOT as ubiquitous as now.”
sigh I went back to get context. I’m the dumb one for confusing the past and present tense differences. :smack:
Double posted. Stupid internet lag…
I don’t get what you’re saying here.
If 80% of the population graduates high school, the 20% who do not are, by definition, not normal.
Is there anybody who is entirely normal? Let’s find him and beat the crap out of him! That’ll give us something we can all agree on.
Well, I guess that means African Americans aren’t “normal” being only about 13% of the population.
But getting the crap beat out of one makes him no longer normal (it is not normal in our society to get beaten up.) So you have a bit of a paradox here…
Normal in the sense of a mathematical concept, not a value judgement.
20% of the population is common enough that it’s ridiculous to hand wave them away as “not normal”, your mathematical analysis notwithstanding.