# The Walking Dead; 1.04 "Vatos" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 22, 2010, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-04-vatos-open-spoilers/561500 "2010-11-22T01:25:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-04-vatos-open-spoilers/561500/41 "2010-11-22T22:57:56Z")
Anyone know why they had to walk back to camp? It’s not like they’re going to get arrested for stealing one of the millions of abandoned cars hanging around. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-04-vatos-open-spoilers/561500/42 "2010-11-22T23:09:11Z")
It was not explained why, so any answer would be a guess. Perhaps they didn’t come across a car with fuel that they could take without attracting geeks. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-04-vatos-open-spoilers/561500/43 "2010-11-22T23:18:53Z")
I’m more curious as to why, in the State of Georgia, with 149 counties, 534 cities, millions of gun owners, not to mention all the gun shops/pawn shops/etc, they had to go back to the ATL for a single bag of weapons? And why they’d have to kill the cuter blonde? ☹ And I like the silent walker bit, the ones who don’t bother to go “uurrrr” until they’re in a feeding frenzy. :rolleyes: I’ll watch the final two episodes, but more because I’m already invested, not because I’m particularly interested. ---
**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patch)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-04-vatos-open-spoilers/561500/44 "2010-11-22T23:28:48Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I’m more curious as to why, in the State of Georgia, with 149 counties, 534 cities, millions of gun owners, not to mention all the gun shops/pawn shops/etc, they had to go back to the ATL for a single bag of weapons? One could go strolling around town looking for a gun shop, but odds are 1) it’s been looted already, and 2) is surrounded by the dead. More importantly, it’s a writers plot point. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-04-vatos-open-spoilers/561500/45 "2010-11-22T23:36:44Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I’m more curious as to why, in the State of Georgia, with 149 counties, 534 cities, millions of gun owners, not to mention all the gun shops/pawn shops/etc, they had to go back to the ATL for a single bag of weapons? It looks like society has been on the collapse for a month or more. One would assume that many of the most valuable lootables have been looted already. Remember the guys at the campside are already worried about running out of stored food. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-04-vatos-open-spoilers/561500/46 "2010-11-22T23:38:12Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Anyone know why they had to walk back to camp? It’s not like they’re going to get arrested for stealing one of the millions of abandoned cars hanging around. Made absolutely no sense. Unless every single person took their keys with them when they abandoned their cars. Or maybe all the gas has evaporated out of the tanks? That might happen after a few months. I mean except when it’s convenient for the plot. And why the fuck are they sleeping out in the open anyway? I’d be inside the fucking RV at night or on top of it or something. Or maybe find a freaking farmhouse or something. Dumbasses. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-04-vatos-open-spoilers/561500/47 "2010-11-23T00:37:30Z")
> [@acsenray](#): > > It looks like society has been on the collapse for a month or more. One would assume that many of the most valuable lootables have been looted already. Remember the guys at the campside are already worried about running out of stored food. I also remember how the main character simply went to the police department in his hometown and opened a locker chock full 'o guns. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-04-vatos-open-spoilers/561500/48 "2010-11-23T01:58:16Z")
I for one would not want at all to run into Merle at this point. Yeah, their leaving themselves wide open to attack was dumb, but it was exactly the kind of dumb thing people do when defense isn’t an ingrained instinct. They thought they could stay isolated and only the occasional stray walker would come by, and at most there might be a problem with zombies moving out of the city in the future. So they picked a great place to camp and a terrible place to defend. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-04-vatos-open-spoilers/561500/49 "2010-11-23T02:08:22Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > I for one would not want at all to run into Merle at this point… Anyone else think we might _not_ see Merle again? There are only 2 more episodes left this season and I could imagine Merle being left as a loose end for next season. We can’t even be sure Merle was the one that stole their truck. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-04-vatos-open-spoilers/561500/50 "2010-11-23T02:20:59Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I also remember how the main character simply went to the police department in his hometown and opened a locker chock full 'o guns. 😉 Which doesn’t actually contradict anything I said. ---
**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-04-vatos-open-spoilers/561500/51 "2010-11-23T02:30:33Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I also remember how the main character simply went to the police department in his hometown and opened a locker chock full 'o guns. 😉 He said at the time that a lot of the guns were already gone. For example, there was only one scoped rifle left, and it gave it to [del]Hawkins[/del] that black dude with the son. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-04-vatos-open-spoilers/561500/52 "2010-11-23T03:15:54Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > Made absolutely no sense. Unless every single person took their keys with them when they abandoned their cars. > > Or maybe all the gas has evaporated out of the tanks? That might happen after a few months. I mean except when it’s convenient for the plot. > > And why the fuck are they sleeping out in the open anyway? I’d be inside the fucking RV at night or on top of it or something. Or maybe find a freaking farmhouse or something. Dumbasses. I WANT to like this show; I actually DO like this show, but plot holes you can drive a truck through are just not good enough (that is, assuming you can find the keys to the truck and it still has gas in it). Maybe there were zombies stuck in all the cars they came across and they couldn’t risk letting them out. Maybe they couldn’t find any keys. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-04-vatos-open-spoilers/561500/53 "2010-11-23T03:40:11Z")
Things that aren’t explained are not necessarily plot holes, so long as they are plausible. They only become plot holes if you get sufficient information to conclude that they’re implausible. We just don’t have the information. That’s not a weakness. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-04-vatos-open-spoilers/561500/54 "2010-11-23T05:13:58Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > And why they’d have to kill the cuter blonde? ☹ Agreed. That was what I was originally planning to post, but of course this being the SDMB I got sidetracked by baseless nitpicking. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-04-vatos-open-spoilers/561500/55 "2010-11-23T05:50:16Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I also remember how the main character simply went to the police department in his hometown and opened a locker chock full 'o guns. 😉 and the main char said “most of the good stuffs been taken”. Much easier to go where you know there are weapons then to go looking for places there ‘might’ be weapons. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-04-vatos-open-spoilers/561500/56 "2010-11-23T14:12:56Z")
> [@simster](#): > > and the main char said “most of the good stuffs been taken”. > > Much easier to go where you know there are weapons then to go looking for places there ‘might’ be weapons. Much easier to look for places where there might be weapons (especially in gun-totin’ Georgia) than to walk into a zombie infested city to get a single bag of guns. ---
**Author:** ![stegon66](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee59a6/32.png) [@stegon66](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stegon66)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-04-vatos-open-spoilers/561500/57 "2010-11-23T15:15:51Z")
> [@](#): > > And why they’d have to kill the cuter blonde? Ask Robert Kirkman. (She died the same way in the books too, only Andrea had the nerve to put a bullet in her brain after she died.) ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-04-vatos-open-spoilers/561500/58 "2010-11-23T15:21:27Z")
Why are people talking like they actually went into the city to look for guns? They went to look for Merle. ---
**Author:** ![lisacurl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/41988e/32.png) [@lisacurl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisacurl)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-04-vatos-open-spoilers/561500/59 "2010-11-23T15:57:43Z")
> [@Tengu](#): > > Why are people talking like they actually went into the city to look for guns? > > They went to look for Merle. And when the other survivors started to argue with Rick about that, he said he wanted to get the bag of guns. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2010, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-04-vatos-open-spoilers/561500/60 "2010-11-23T16:01:25Z")
Which was just to get them to shut up, because he was going to go get Merle, no matter what they said. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-04-vatos-open-spoilers/561500.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-04-vatos-open-spoilers/561500.md?page=4)