# The Walking Dead; 1.06 "TS-19" SEASON FINALE (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 6, 2010, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089 "2010-12-06T01:03:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/21 "2010-12-06T07:29:41Z")
I liked it. It answered a few questions, and raised several more, as is appropriate for a season finale. Dale (the older dude played by Jeffery DeMunn) is definitely my favorite character, especially with the way he convinced the blonde sister of the dead chick not to stay and croak. I don’t think he was bluffing, either. I’ll be tuning in next season, for sure. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/22 "2010-12-06T08:02:17Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > I’m with **Diogenes** , as a series finale this one pretty much blew chunks as there were too many unresolved issues. Well isn’t that what’s supposed to happen during a season finale? The producers hope that you want answers and will tune in when the next season starts. Watching this episode Darryl, looks wise, made me think of a thinner Larry the Cable Guy. And when they escaped the building it seems like a female zombie got shot twice. And I don’t mean boom boom she’s dead, I mean it’s like the same actress was supposed to be two different zombies. ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/23 "2010-12-06T08:42:33Z")
Yeah, you don’t threaten to flat out kill the suicidal guy, you tell him you’re going to shoot off his kneecaps or something else that would leave him in terrible pain for the last five minutes of his life. Or just chat with him - like Rick I guess. Can you believe that the black lady chose to stay behind? Her character didn’t seem… oh wait, there wasn’t any character development. I enjoy the comics enough to collect them - well at least until I got to the issue that was cover-to-cover torture. This isn’t a terrible show, but I’m not at all inclined to collect it on DVD. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/24 "2010-12-06T09:26:13Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > (the grenade was a little deus ex, by the way). It isn’t according to your own definition from last year: > [@District 9: Rave Reviews So Far...](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/district-9-rave-reviews-so-far/506152/81): > > A Deus Ex Machina is something that comes from out of nowhere, with no logical connection to any previous part of the plot. ---
**Author:** ![Acid\_Lamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Acid\_Lamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acid_Lamp)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/25 "2010-12-06T13:13:42Z")
MEH. I loved this series right up until the last two episodes. I can’t stand interpersonal crap, and IMHO there isn’t any _time_ for that garbage during the crisis. It would have been a good thing to let stew quietly in the background and address at at a later time, when everybody had been “safe” for a bit. I wanted to learn more about the zombies, and considering how much they blew on those sets I expected more as well. I thought that maybe Jenner whispered that he had seen the encounter between Shayne and Rick’s wife; I haven’t read the books. There didn’t seem to be THAT many walkers around when they left; I agree that they could have all taken a few seconds to grab some more guns on the way. Nothing fancy, just grab as you run by. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/26 "2010-12-06T13:15:30Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > Well isn’t that what’s supposed to happen during a season finale? The producers hope that you want answers and will tune in when the next season starts. I don’t have a problem with unresolved issues but the ones that were left should have been resolved in one way or another. > [@](#): > > Watching this episode Darryl, looks wise, made me think of a thinner Larry the Cable Guy. And when they escaped the building it seems like a female zombie got shot twice. I don’t really get the love for Daryl. He’s got some useful skills but he’s such a hothead that I’d be afraid he’s going to hurt me if I say the wrong thing or his temper will get the better of him and he’ll do something stupid that will result in me having a hard time. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/27 "2010-12-06T13:17:50Z")
> [@drastic\_quench](#): > > Can you believe that the black lady chose to stay behind? Her character didn’t seem… oh wait, there wasn’t any character development. Part of the problem with the series is that time has been so compressed. How many days has it been since Rick woke up in the hospital. 4 or 5? > [@](#): > > I enjoy the comics enough to collect them - well at least until I got to the issue that was cover-to-cover torture. This isn’t a terrible show, but I’m not at all inclined to collect it on DVD. I was collecting them in trade paperback format and quit with the introduction of the governor for the same reason. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/28 "2010-12-06T13:27:04Z")
> [@MacTech](#): > > I wasn’t expecting non-stop Zombie Bashing in this ep, after all, they’re bunkered down and the zombies can’t get in, but the writers could have explored more of the “how and why” of the Zombie contagion, or had Jenner deliberatly infect one (or more) of them to get some “fresh samples”, heck, even have Rick and Daryl go back to see if ZombieJim has become Undead yet to get him as a “sample”, or some other Evil Mad Scientist stuff You don’t want “Soap Opera” but are perfectly fine with the most tedious, hoariest genre cliches possible? I’m glad they didn’t pursue the All the Last Scientists are Crazy/Evil Madmen trope, which would’ve been one of the laziest copouts imaginable in this situation. Jenner was dedicated, compassionate, and completely logical in his cold analysis of their fate. For him to turn into some raving Snidely Whiplash von Frankenstein by turning the survivors into guinea pigs would’ve been a terrible disappointment. And while people may claim they want more of the “how and why”, these last series threads demonstrate perfectly why the writers don’t pursue those ends–because the nitpickers would have a field day deconstructing something that really doesn’t matter in the first place. It’s called a McGuffin. The dynamics of the characters (whether you want to call it Development or Melodrama–YMMV) is what this series is about–Not a White Paper on the medical technicalities of the extinction event. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/29 "2010-12-06T13:34:35Z")
> [@Don\_Draper](#): > > So, if the military were shooting everybody - alive or undead - at the hospital, why didn’t the soldiers who burst into Rick’s room not shoot him? I would’ve thought that a comatose patient hooked up to life-support (in a hospital going to hell) probably was more likely to turn into a zombie than a frightened nurse! The soldier had his sight trained right on him, but didn’t fire? WTH? I was expecting Shane to pop up from under the bed and cap the soldier with his pistol. This would have injected more gray into the tiresome plot point where Shane sleeps with Rick’s wife, which is what the entire scene seemed to be about. IMO every episode was worse than one before, with the pilot being the best. If this happened over several seasons instead people would say it was nostalgia. The problem is that, for me anyway, following survivors trying to scavenge up a living with zombies everywhere is interesting. The soap opera stuff doesn’t connect with me at all, and just makes me roll my eyes. Maybe it’s a necessary evil for a mainstream television show to hit those key demos, but I think the kind of people who like zombies and post apocalyptic fantasies would trend on the more anti-social spectrum. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/30 "2010-12-06T13:47:18Z")
> [@ArchiveGuy](#): > > And while people may claim they want more of the “how and why”, these last series threads demonstrate perfectly why the writers don’t pursue those ends–because the nitpickers would have a field day deconstructing something that really doesn’t matter in the first place. It’s called a McGuffin. The dynamics of the characters (whether you want to call it Development or Melodrama–YMMV) is what this series is about–Not a White Paper on the medical technicalities of the extinction event. Agreed. I’d rather see snippets of what happened when the world went to hell in flashbacks and exposition every episode or two rather than a meticulous explanation. It injects a little mystery into the story. Question: In the CDC there’s a talking computer that can control all the building systems and answer simple queries. Is that technology real? If I wanted to spend the money, could I install a talking computer to run my lights and appliances and speak to it like I’m on the USS Enterprise? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/31 "2010-12-06T14:26:15Z")
> [@Red\_Barchetta](#): > > It isn’t according to your own definition from last year: Somebody pulling a grenade out of their ass isn’t something coming out of nowhere? ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/32 "2010-12-06T14:32:08Z")
Weird- for whatever reason, I can’t quote **Dio’s** last message. It just comes up blank. Anyway, didn’t we see the grenade a few episodes back? That would make it more of a Chekhov’s Gun than a Deus Ex Machina. I realize science isn’t the show’s strong suit, but was anyone else bothered that the Test Subject was shot while in the MRI?! I’m pretty sure that breaks the warranty- on both the MRI \*and \*the gun. Boy, do our heroes have crappy timing, or what? They made it to the CDC just in time to get locked in and blowed the hell up. Hey, at least they got hot showers and liquored up. ---
**Author:** ![Acid\_Lamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Acid\_Lamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acid_Lamp)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/33 "2010-12-06T15:20:20Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > . The soap opera stuff doesn’t connect with me at all, and just makes me roll my eyes. Maybe it’s a necessary evil for a mainstream television show to hit those key demos, but I think the kind of people who like zombies and post apocalyptic fantasies would trend on the more anti-social spectrum. snip. Agreed. While we may have to endure that subplot, there is no reason for it to be handled as ham-fisted as it has been. It feels like it is being shoehorned in, and every time they diverge from the actual important life or death stuff to that minor arc, it jars my suspension of disbelief. :dubious: Considering that they may die at any moment, you’d think they’d air their dirty laundry, and move forward. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/34 "2010-12-06T15:30:24Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > I don’t really get the love for Daryl. He’s got some useful skills but he’s such a hothead that I’d be afraid he’s going to hurt me if I say the wrong thing or his temper will get the better of him and he’ll do something stupid that will result in me having a hard time. Oh, I didn’t say I loved him, but I don’t hate him either. I usually don’t give him much thought. And as for being hot headed, Shane seems equally as hot headed, if not more so. I’d be worried about having to defend myself from Shane if I made him angry. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/35 "2010-12-06T15:57:17Z")
> [@ArchiveGuy](#): > > You don’t want “Soap Opera” but are perfectly fine with the most tedious, hoariest genre cliches possible? I’m glad they didn’t pursue the All the Last Scientists are Crazy/Evil Madmen trope, which would’ve been one of the laziest copouts imaginable in this situation. Jenner was dedicated, compassionate, and completely logical in his cold analysis of their fate. For him to turn into some raving Snidely Whiplash von Frankenstein by turning the survivors into guinea pigs would’ve been a terrible disappointment. > > And while people may claim they want more of the “how and why”, these last series threads demonstrate perfectly why the writers don’t pursue those ends–because the nitpickers would have a field day deconstructing something that really doesn’t matter in the first place. It’s called a McGuffin. The dynamics of the characters (whether you want to call it Development or Melodrama–YMMV) is what this series is about–Not a White Paper on the medical technicalities of the extinction event. No I didn’t want the cliche stuff, just was fed up with all the whiny interpersonal crap, they should be planning for a sustainable long term bug-out, not squabbling amongst themselves, too much whiny interpersonal crap, not enough dealing with the problems inherent in a ZPAW (Zombie Post-Apocolyptic World) ---
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/36 "2010-12-06T16:18:36Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Somebody pulling a grenade out of their ass isn’t something coming out of nowhere? They’ve been carrying it since either the first or the second episode (I forget exactly which). Rick took it off the dead soldier in the tank. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/37 "2010-12-06T16:22:02Z")
> [@MacTech](#): > > No I didn’t want the cliche stuff, just was fed up with all the whiny interpersonal crap, they should be planning for a sustainable long term bug-out, not squabbling amongst themselves, too much whiny interpersonal crap, not enough dealing with the problems inherent in a ZPAW (Zombie Post-Apocolyptic World) But they’re not a bunch of steely-eyed ex-military survivalist types. This isn’t Left 4 Dead: The Television Series. They’re regular people experiencing extreme fear and stress. The main conflict has been between their need to find a purpose and gather what they need to survive against their desire to curl up into a ball and hide. Now that doesn’t mean I necessarily want to deal with Shane’s issues for much longer. I think Lori is being a bit unreasonable. ---
**Author:** ![ratmanizhere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b5ac83/32.png) [@ratmanizhere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ratmanizhere)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/38 "2010-12-06T16:42:04Z")
Been wondering: Is Shane having any resentment towards Rick after Rick shows up in the camp? Is there any resentment with what seems like Rick taking over the leadership of the survivors from Shane? I will admit that I haven’t read the comics of this series, so I really don’t have a clue as to what is forthcoming. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/39 "2010-12-06T16:45:10Z")
_Lori_ is being unreasonable? Why? Because she doesn’t like being lied to and sexually exploited? Because she loves her husband? Because she didn’t wanted to get raped? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/40 "2010-12-06T16:46:32Z")
> [@ratmanizhere](#): > > Been wondering: > > Is Shane having any resentment towards Rick after Rick shows up in the camp? > Is there any resentment with what seems like Rick taking over the leadership of the survivors from Shane? > > I will admit that I haven’t read the comics of this series, so I really don’t have a clue as to what is forthcoming. I think the answer to both those questions is obviously yes, especially since we saw him point a rifle at Rick and contemplate killing him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089.md?page=3)