# The Walking Dead; 1.06 "TS-19" SEASON FINALE (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 6, 2010, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089 "2010-12-06T01:03:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/41 "2010-12-06T17:08:13Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I think the answer to both those questions is obviously yes, especially since we saw him point a rifle at Rick and contemplate killing him. \technically, he pointed a _shotgun_ at him, a Mossberg 590A1 pump \ ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/42 "2010-12-06T17:16:39Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > _Lori_ is being unreasonable? Why? Because she doesn’t like being lied to and sexually exploited? Lied to? It was reasonable to believe that Rick was dead. > [@](#): > > Because she loves her husband? Because she loves her husband she feels guilt which she is probably alleviating by convincing herself that it’s all Shane’s fault, he lied to her, and all the blame lies with him. > [@](#): > > Because she didn’t wanted to get raped? I agree here. Shane deserved what she did to him. ---
**Author:** ![mckall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eada6e/32.png) [@mckall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mckall)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/43 "2010-12-06T17:31:21Z")
> [@stegon66](#): > > You’re probably right about what Jenner whispered to Rick. In the books it was never revealed who the father was and it eventually became a moot point… Well… The baby girl was Shane’s. Rick knew it was her’s but couldn’t bear to hear it said out loud. ---
**Author:** ![mr.jp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/48db29/32.png) [@mr.jp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mr.jp)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/44 "2010-12-06T17:48:03Z")
I liked nothing about this episode. I didn’t care for: - The psychopath lab guy, who couldn’t just let them try to get out, or inform them earlier. - Hearing about any of the character’s problems. The girl who can’t get over her sisters death. Shane attempting rape. - That subject 19 was his wife, in the most obvious plot twist in the world. - Anything that was said, or happened, really. Nothing interesting. (Ok, I liked the illustration of activity in the brain stem only.) ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/45 "2010-12-06T18:20:40Z")
At least they all got a good meal and a hot shower and a good night’s sleep. And drunk. [QUOTE=alphaboi867] They spent way too much money on the CDC sets. I’ve no idea what the real CDC lobby looks like so no complaints there [/QUOTE] I don’t really know what the CDC hq looks like either, but the building they used for the external and lobby shots on this one was the Cobb Energy Center, basically a theater/concert/convention center complex in Atlanta. I know that CDC has buildings all over Atlanta but the only one I know off hand looks like a big FDR era public high school. > [@mr.jp](#): > > I liked nothing about this episode. > > I didn’t care for: > > - That subject 19 was his wife, in the most obvious plot twist in the world. Yeah, that was a shocker, after he’d talked about what a brilliant brain it was and blah blah blah. It would have been more interesting if it’d been his dad or his boyfriend or his twin brother even than his wife. I expected him to say the French were closerthanthis to a vaccine/cure/understanding but then they ran out of wine. I wonder if VI and HAL ever got it on. I kept expecting her to say “I can’t let you do that Dr. Jenner”. I’m guessing there’s tons of fuel barrels that would work on those generators somewhere within driving distance. Jenner should have asked them to go check for it. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/46 "2010-12-06T18:32:00Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I thought that kind of sucked for a season finale. The whole locked-in scenario was contrived and generated no tension since the audience knows they can’t all die. Dale creeps me out with his constant, avuncular caretaker act. He’s coming off a little smothering, and Andrea was not worth saving. > > What’s with this blast that’s supposed to be almost as strong as a nuke having a blast radius of about 14 feet? And what kind of security is it to have breakable windows in the lobby (the grenade was a little deus ex, by the way). > > Also, I think it’s about time somebody told Rick that Shane was porking his wife. The meaningful, silent looks are getting a little tiresome. > > Hopefully next season will be a little better. My thoughts exactly. An explosion of that magnitude, even with conventional explosives, would have destroyed those vehicles and the people in them. When Andrea decided to stay, I actually said “Good!” out loud. I can’t stand that “actress” constantly chewing the scenery (even more than the others) or that character. The two cops need to just duke it out and get it over with, or she needs to get them both in a room and come clean on the porkage. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/47 "2010-12-06T18:56:03Z")
One of the oldest rules of making film is “Hollywood Loves Fire”. If there’s a way to make it burn or, better yet, explode, then physics and believability be damned. (I’m not sure when it started, but certainly it goes back to 1939 when Rhett & Scarlett [evacuate Atlanta](http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/images/reviews/20/1100191972.jpg) in what looks like the towering inferno- perhaps the Walking Dead CDC is built on that very spot.) Also, nobody ever escapes anything with time to spare- reminds me of GALAXY QUEST when the timer on their replicated craft only gets to 0:00:01. So the CDC’s amazing implosion-without-damage is just par for the course- assume somehow it happened. ---
**Author:** ![Smitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Smitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smitty)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/48 "2010-12-06T19:00:48Z")
I’m no explosives expert, but I would think if you were setting up charges in the CDC, you would make it exactly like what happened. You would make it an implosion as much as possible. You really wouldn’t want “weaponized smallpox and ebola strains that would wipe out half the country” blown all over Atlanta, would you? I think the explosion was actually done pretty close to right. ---
**Author:** ![mr.jp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/48db29/32.png) [@mr.jp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mr.jp)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/49 "2010-12-06T19:14:33Z")
Also, the grenade was seen in an earlier episode, so it was from Chekhov rather than God. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/50 "2010-12-06T19:18:49Z")
> [@Smitty](#): > > I’m no explosives expert, but I would think if you were setting up charges in the CDC, you would make it exactly like what happened. You would make it an implosion as much as possible. You really wouldn’t want “weaponized smallpox and ebola strains that would wipe out half the country” blown all over Atlanta, would you? I think the explosion was actually done pretty close to right. Right, setting of a nuclear blast in the middle of Atlanta would sort of defeat the whole purpose of the self destruct. They showed Rick finding the grenade while he searched the dead soldier inside the tank, just because you forgot about it doesn’t make it a Deus Ex. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/51 "2010-12-06T19:27:39Z")
[quote=Smitty] I’m no explosives expert, but I would think if you were setting up charges in the CDC, you would make it exactly like what happened. You would make it an implosion as much as possible. You really wouldn’t want “weaponized smallpox and ebola strains that would wipe out half the country” blown all over Atlanta, would you? I think the explosion was actually done pretty close to right. [\quote] Not really since it was a fuel air explosive (like the MOAB or Daisy Cutter bomb). FAEs do not bring down buildings in a neat controlled implosion. [They turn the entire building into a giant bomb which would have oblitated it and everything around it with a massive shock wave](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9xCgNdZPKk&NR=1). I strongly suspect that had the show not been picked up for a second season, it would have ended with everyone waiting inside. > [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > But they’re not a bunch of steely-eyed ex-military survivalist types. This isn’t Left 4 Dead: The Television Series. They’re regular people experiencing extreme fear and stress. The main conflict has been between their need to find a purpose and gather what they need to survive against their desire to curl up into a ball and hide. Seriously. I think people have seem so many zombie films and played so many zombie games that they think the normal human reaction would be to grab a pickax and a chainsaw and wade into a sea of the undead, busting skulls. I mean has anyone ever really worked out the best place to be during a zombie outbreak? Do you drive around until you run out of fuel in a field full of undead or do you hole up in a secure building or bunker until you are surrounded by undead and wait for the food to run out? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/52 "2010-12-06T19:48:06Z")
Yeah, I thought the Swan Station explosion was a little hokey, but I can overlook that. I liked this episode. I think they did a good job with the drinking and all the interpersonal stuff-- the stuff that really is what makes a program interesting. I was hoping that we’d get some tidbit of info about how the disease started; hoping it had something to do with some government experiment gone wrong. Still, that’s could be addressed next season. All in all, I really enjoyed this. I thought the 2nd episode was a little slow, but I liked all the other ones. As usual, I’m still struggling with names, though. I couldn’t tell you the name of one character other than Darryl and Merle. What does that tell you? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/53 "2010-12-06T19:49:04Z")
Anybody know when the release date for the DVD/Blu-ray is? AMC’s Mad-Men DVDs are pretty good (most episodes have _2_ commentary tracks, but never any deleted scenes); hopefully the TWD DVDs will live up to them and be packed with special features and commentaries. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/54 "2010-12-06T19:55:51Z")
I would be more afraid of Shane than Daryl at this point; Daryl is a hothead and full of anger about his brother (which is pretty understandable, frankly), but he has shown that he is actually reasonable and very pragmatic. Shane is turning into a complete loose cannon, and he has potential to cause serious trouble in the group - can you imagine the discussion once Lori tells them that he tried to rape her? “Well, yeah, we need every able body with the group, but knock it off with the raping, okay, Shane?” And Rick will be really good with that, too - he’ll point his gun at EVERYONE! So, do you figure they are going to try Fort Denning now, or will they have accepted that there will most likely be nothing and no one there? One note that I think I caught but not quite sure - did Dr. Jennings say that he was on Day 165 after the outbreak? The show taking place almost six months after the outbreak is making things make a lot more sense to me. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/55 "2010-12-06T19:57:52Z")
I still haven’t learned everybody’s name (actually that wouldn’t be a bad gag for the series- a member who’s terrible with names of the 12 survivors left on Earth), but I kind of like the Dale:Younger Woman Who Shot Her Sister’s Zombie romance. I would think that as long as you had somebody giving you cover then car parts would be super easy to come by- basically find any RV and shoot anything that moves slow around it while your partner takes off the hose or whatever. Ideally hot-wire the sucker. Gas would be the biggest problem- any way you can rig a gas station pump to dispense without electricity? Total agreement on “before you leave find every weapon and round of ammo you can”. A friend who’s read the graphic novels says that they’ve already diverged wildly; I haven’t so I wouldnt’ know, but I do hope they don’t get into LOST territory with increasingly bizarre and implausible encounters along the way to wherever. Bearing in mind that anywhere you go you’ll have to deal with The Hoarde, I think I might set a course for [Biltmore](http://www.biltmore.com/). Lots of room, generators, it’s walled and you can build on that, it’s surrounded by gardens and has greenhouses, and there probably weren’t that many people who decided to go on a tour after hearing about the zombie outbreak so it should be easier to contain. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/56 "2010-12-06T20:02:24Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > \Gas would be the biggest problem- any way you can rig a gas station pump to dispense without electricity?\ As we learned in _The Stand_ so many years ago, yes, you can - there is a manual thingy under the heavy cover that you have to pry up carefully or it’ll smash your fingers off. ---
**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/57 "2010-12-06T20:04:46Z")
> [@Raygun99](#): > > More Chekovian. Nah. There wasn’t any screaming. Oh, you meant Chekhov! Never mind. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/58 "2010-12-06T20:07:31Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Somebody pulling a grenade out of their ass isn’t something coming out of nowhere? As several others mentioned, the grenade was introduced before. It’s no more a deus ex machina than what you’ve disavowed in the past. ---
**Author:** ![stegon66](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee59a6/32.png) [@stegon66](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stegon66)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/59 "2010-12-06T20:09:14Z")
At least with Jacqui out of the way they can now bring on Michonne! Wouldn’t want to confuse folks with two black women on the show now would we? :dubious: With her and her sword added to the show, and with Andrea’s becoming the group’s sharpshooter/sniper, things should get more interesting… ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089/60 "2010-12-06T20:09:59Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Bearing in mind that anywhere you go you’ll have to deal with The Hoarde, I think I might set a course for [Biltmore](http://www.biltmore.com/). Lots of room, generators, it’s walled and you can build on that, it’s surrounded by gardens and has greenhouses, and there probably weren’t that many people who decided to go on a tour after hearing about the zombie outbreak so it should be easier to contain. Biltmore House is, like, 3 and a half hours north, on unpredictable roads with free-range zombies. I’d think they could just head to one of the many expensive suburbs that surround Atlanta (Buckhead, maybe? Is that one of them?) and find a gated/walled community to take over. Closer, smaller, more likelihood of abandoned homes with food in them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-1-06-ts-19-season-finale-open-spoilers/563089.md?page=4)