# The Walking Dead; 2.04 "Cherokee Rose" (open spoilers)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 7, 2011, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-04-cherokee-rose-open-spoilers/602121 "2011-11-07T01:04:00Z")\
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**Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-04-cherokee-rose-open-spoilers/602121/81 "2011-11-11T17:38:21Z")

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> [@HoboStew](#):
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> How much time has elapsed since Rick returned? I assume there is going to be some question as to who the daddy is?

Maury

You are NOT the father!

/Maury

Actually, this is the post zombie apocalypse world…

Maury

Uuuuuuurrrrrrbrainsuuuuuuuuhhhhhhh…

/Maury

Added bonus: no makeup required.

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-04-cherokee-rose-open-spoilers/602121/82 "2011-11-11T22:32:10Z")

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> [@HoboStew](#):
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> How much time has elapsed since Rick returned? I assume there is going to be some question as to who the daddy is?

Given Fubaya’s timeline (very nice, thank you), it is almost impossible it’s Ricks.

ETA: Regarding the arrows: they are very good about showing him retrieving them when he can. It was nice detail.

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**Author:** ![Zjestika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/8edcca/32.png) [@Zjestika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zjestika)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-04-cherokee-rose-open-spoilers/602121/83 "2011-11-12T02:43:12Z")

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I hate the love triangle so much! It would be so incredibly easily solved by Lori saying, “Hey, I really believed you were dead and I wanted to experience something besides unrelenting horror for 10 minutes, so me and Shane did it. I’m so happy you aren’t dead and it won’t happen again.” Even now, a week or whatever into their reunion she could confess and what’s the worst that could happen? Oh yeah, the writers might have to have an original idea. Grrr.

I am watching the show in spite of all the horrible characters and bad dialogue and silly decisions because I am dedicated to zombie stuff. But I find it disappointing.

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-04-cherokee-rose-open-spoilers/602121/84 "2011-11-13T00:03:11Z")

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> [@EvilTOJ](#):
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> They had to do it that way so we could get The Big Reveal later at the end of the episode. If she said “Get me a home pregnancy test” right there in the middle of the episode it wouldn’t have been as dramatic. TV Tropes would call it Unnecessary Whispering or [something](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/UnspokenPlan).

The reveal would’ve worked just as well if Lori handed Glen the paper and instead of asking what it was he just blushed and asked her wear to find it. The audience still would’ve been left with the impression that she just asked for tampons.

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-04-cherokee-rose-open-spoilers/602121/85 "2011-11-13T02:05:25Z")

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My wife and I were confused as to why six people were struggling so much with supporting a 145-160 pound man on a rope. Seriously, you’re looking at 25-30 pounds per person, yet they were struggling like they were dangling a Dodge Omni down the well.

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**Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-04-cherokee-rose-open-spoilers/602121/86 "2011-11-13T06:07:57Z")

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> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#):
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> “Good thing we didn’t do something stupid, like shoot it.”

That line was what redeemed that entire retarded attempt to pull the zombie out of the well. Preach it, T-dog!

And what **Kolga** said, cubed. “Let’s see, we’re on a looting mission, we haven’t checked the entire back rooms yet, and the front of the pharmacy is an unlocked door and two big-ass windows. Let’s get nekkid and screw!”

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**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-04-cherokee-rose-open-spoilers/602121/87 "2011-11-19T21:18:00Z")

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> [@MaddyStrut](#):
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> The extradition of the well zombie made me think of all the stupid corporate team building exercises I’ve done. Why couldn’t we have an interesting scenario like that? Then again, I think my co workers may be even stupider than these people.
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> Seriously? Giving up your guns just like that? These are the people that love to talk, talk, talk, and talk some more about every damn thing. And they don’t have any discussion about it?
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> About all that talking, I think one of the main issues I’m having with the show is that so much of the talking is among Lori, Rick and Shane. Those are the three characters I care the least about (well, except for that damn kid who needs to be found: dead or alive). They bore me. Their conversations bore me. Their love triangle doesn’t interest me in the least.
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> I did like Glen trying to impress Maggie when they were riding to the pharmacy. Did that awkward conversation bring me back to high school!

Totally agree, with the whole world going to hell, with the human race possibly going to be history very soon, I couldn’t give a flying pluck whether or not Jane might fancy Eddy, or if Nancy is having doubts about her relationship with Jim, or if Sally has anger issues.

IRL if people are in that much of a life threatening situation they don’t actually worry about social relationship issues, and so I not only find it unbelieveable but I find it boring.

It WOULD be boring if it was just a Z running away/killing fest, but going Soap is not the answer to fill in time.

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-04-cherokee-rose-open-spoilers/602121/88 "2011-11-19T21:19:59Z")

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Yeah, that’s pretty common in apocalyptic fiction. “It’s really about the characters in an extreme environment” - well, I for one would like some stories about the apocalypse myself rather than an extreme themed soap opera. The worst part is that people are so smug about how their tastes are superior because they appreciate that it’s all about the characters.

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