# The Walking Dead; 2.05 "Chupacabra" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 13, 2011, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-05-chupacabra-open-spoilers/602843 "2011-11-13T23:48:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Inthewater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Inthewater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inthewater)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-05-chupacabra-open-spoilers/602843/61 "2011-11-14T17:57:03Z")
> [@salinqmind](#): > > Me too! (I was one of ‘those’ who loved the ending of Lost, caring not a bit what the numbers meant, etc. Sue me.) It IS a bit slow, but I don’t have a short attention span, I’ll put up with it. I don’t like zombies to begin with, but I think they have the right amount in this thing. I DO love end-of-the-world survivors stories, which is what got me into it. Now that I can tell one character from the other, I’m really enjoying it. You mention Lost and I had a Lost moment last night. When the young kid and his girlfriend showed up, it reminded me of (can’t remember the names…Paulo and Nikki maybe?) the two they added in Lost that had the side story with the diamonds, ended up being buried, maybe alive? The way the kid showed up and was like, “hey, can I help with the search.” Did we even know those two existed before that? Maybe I just missed it. ---
**Author:** ![emarkp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3be4f8/32.png) [@emarkp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emarkp)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-05-chupacabra-open-spoilers/602843/62 "2011-11-14T17:59:34Z")
> [@Fubaya](#): > > I’m a little tired of zombies showing up at just the right times. Daryl is at the bottom of a ravine surrounded by 100 foot cliffs. He hasn’t seen any zombies the whole day but suddenly two find him down there in the most private place on earth? I see it as TV shorthand. They have other encounters, but the audience only gets to see the parts that are most dramatic. I’m getting more forgiving in my old age I guess. Also, maybe the ravine is where all the roamers ended up by falling down just like Daryl? Only 2 of them were both ambulatory and nearby. Also, remember the walkers are attracted to sound. Daryl’s falling down into the river would have alerted any of them nearby. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-05-chupacabra-open-spoilers/602843/63 "2011-11-14T18:08:57Z")
> [@Inthewater](#): > > Did we even know those two existed before that? Maybe I just missed it. I think they were in the background of Otis’s memorial. We’re clearly not seeing every day in their life. When Rick brought out the map, he said “I have new search grids for eveyone,” implying they’ve been at this search grid system for a while. So we’ve gone past at least one day, probably more. Oh, and I’d like to take the time to talk about how much I love the opening credit music to this show. Especially the way it starts to fade in over the cold open before jumping to the credits. ---
**Author:** ![Inthewater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Inthewater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inthewater)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-05-chupacabra-open-spoilers/602843/64 "2011-11-14T18:15:34Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > I think they were in the background of Otis’s memorial. We’re clearly not seeing every day in their life. When Rick brought out the map, he said “I have new search grids for eveyone,” implying they’ve been at this search grid system for a while. So we’ve gone past at least one day, probably more. > > Oh, and I’d like to take the time to talk about how much I love the opening credit music to this show. Especially the way it starts to fade in over the cold open before jumping to the credits. Ahh, yep. I remember seeing them there. I think at that point, I thought, “Where were they during all the ruckus with Carl and Otis?” Anyway, just the way he walked up asking to help, and Rick introduced him to us, reminded me of Paulo and Nikki, or whatever their names are. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-05-chupacabra-open-spoilers/602843/65 "2011-11-14T18:47:14Z")
So when do they decide to take refuge in Billy Murray’s house? ---
**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-05-chupacabra-open-spoilers/602843/66 "2011-11-14T19:06:27Z")
> [@Inthewater](#): > > Ahh, yep. I remember seeing them there. I think at that point, I thought, “Where were they during all the ruckus with Carl and Otis?” Anyway, just the way he walked up asking to help, and Rick introduced him to us, reminded me of Paulo and Nikki, or whatever their names are. > > 🙂 I’m thinking if our core group ever gets to a hub of civilization, whoever else is there will be like the other anonymous passengers on Lost, milling around on the beach. We only met them when they were needed to move the plot forward (like Artz) or totally extraneous, like Paulo and Nikki (boy, everyone hated that stand-alone episode). ---
**Author:** ![theR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@theR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/theR)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-05-chupacabra-open-spoilers/602843/67 "2011-11-14T19:37:45Z")
> [@Tixenfleaz](#): > > I’m glad the show finally addressed this. A lot of my friends complain about how incompetent Rick’s group is. They chalk it up to lazy writers adding drama by having the characters making foolish mistakes. > > Right or wrong, my perception is that the writers decided that it would be more fun to document the adventures of a bunch of bush leaguers. Real “C” listers who ARE lucky to have survived this long. It was nice to hear a line that validated that perception for me. As opposed to the brilliant, experienced group that has some magical zombie forcefield that keeps zombies away from their untouched-by-the-apocalypse farm and lets them easily route zombies into the barn? ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-05-chupacabra-open-spoilers/602843/68 "2011-11-14T20:21:50Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > So when do they decide to take refuge in Billy Murray’s house? And why aren’t they looking for Twinkies? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-05-chupacabra-open-spoilers/602843/69 "2011-11-14T20:38:20Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > So when do they decide to take refuge in Billy Murray’s house? I understand why Herschel has a “No Guns!” rule now. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-05-chupacabra-open-spoilers/602843/70 "2011-11-14T20:42:15Z")
> [@Fubaya](#): > > I’m a little tired of zombies showing up at just the right times. Daryl is at the bottom of a ravine surrounded by 100 foot cliffs. He hasn’t seen any zombies the whole day but suddenly two find him down there in the most private place on earth? > > A couple weeks ago, the group spent all day in the woods and saw nothing until 10 seconds before Maggie showed up and saved the day. > > The zombie in the well will probably also be a plot point. > > It happened in the first season too, but it was more forgivable. The group camped for an undetermined amount of days when Carl ran into a single zombie. That was obviously just a way to introduce Daryl. Then the camp comes under attack 30 seconds before the guys show up with the bag of guns (which are oddly missing from this season). Now I have this tune stuck in my head: \* The zombie in the well The zombie in the well Hi ho the derry oh, the zombie in the well.\* ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-05-chupacabra-open-spoilers/602843/71 "2011-11-14T20:47:48Z")
Thanks, **John.** ---
**Author:** ![Tixenfleaz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9a140/32.png) [@Tixenfleaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tixenfleaz)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-05-chupacabra-open-spoilers/602843/72 "2011-11-14T20:48:12Z")
> [@theR](#): > > As opposed to the brilliant, experienced group that has some magical zombie forcefield that keeps zombies away from their untouched-by-the-apocalypse farm and lets them easily route zombies into the barn? \ Well hopefully the writers will come up with some other throwaway line to explain that situation to me. I’m easy to please. I’m not the most attentive viewer in the world, but have the farmers even bothered to board their windows? ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-05-chupacabra-open-spoilers/602843/73 "2011-11-14T21:43:34Z")
Retronition- when suddenly you realize an actor you’re watching was “Oh… that’s the guy from \_\_\_\_\_”- is weird and can make you feel stupid. It totally just sank in that Darryl is Murphy from _Boondock Saints_. (Apologies if this has been brought up before.) A pity that he isn’t the same character as the six pistol packing Billy Connolly dad character would be a great asset to the team. ---
**Author:** ![Inthewater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Inthewater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inthewater)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-05-chupacabra-open-spoilers/602843/74 "2011-11-14T21:57:25Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Retronition- when suddenly you realize an actor you’re watching was “Oh… that’s the guy from \_\_\_\_\_”- is weird and can make you feel stupid. It totally just sank in that Darryl is Murphy from _Boondock Saints_. (Apologies if this has been brought up before.) > > A pity that he isn’t the same character as the six pistol packing Billy Connolly dad character would be a great asset to the team. He was also Scud in Blade 2. Most “famous” role is probably the Boondock Saints movies. He’s actually a pretty good actor. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-05-chupacabra-open-spoilers/602843/75 "2011-11-14T22:00:13Z")
> [@theR](#): > > As opposed to the brilliant, experienced group that has some magical zombie forcefield that keeps zombies away from their untouched-by-the-apocalypse farm and lets them easily route zombies into the barn? That **is** a puzzlement. It’s possible that they used bait, sacrificing a farm animal, or one of the humans was up in the hayloft ringing a dinner bell. Less likely (but possible?) that people who’d been bitten were quarantined in the barn. Good point about a cure not reversing the effects of the disease. ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-05-chupacabra-open-spoilers/602843/76 "2011-11-14T22:21:45Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > Good point about a cure not reversing the effects of the disease. It’s TV. The cure ALWAYS reverses the effects of the disease. Generally in a three step fade. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-05-chupacabra-open-spoilers/602843/77 "2011-11-14T22:37:15Z")
> [@AuntiePam](#): > > Less likely (but possible?) that people who’d been bitten were quarantined in the barn. It would truly suck to be the last person in that line. :eek: “i know you just got bitten and are still alive, but would you mind waiting out in the Barn O’ Zombies?” ---
**Author:** ![MeanJoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanjoe/32/5693_2.png) [@MeanJoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanJoe)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-05-chupacabra-open-spoilers/602843/78 "2011-11-14T22:41:23Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Retronition- when suddenly you realize an actor you’re watching was “Oh… that’s the guy from \_\_\_\_\_”- is weird and can make you feel stupid. It totally just sank in that Darryl is Murphy from _Boondock Saints_. (Apologies if this has been brought up before.) > > A pity that he isn’t the same character as the six pistol packing Billy Connolly dad character would be a great asset to the team. Consider my mind blown - I didn’t realize it but the minute I read your post I had an instant :smack: moment. ---
**Author:** ![Inthewater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Inthewater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inthewater)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-05-chupacabra-open-spoilers/602843/79 "2011-11-14T22:54:56Z")
> [@MeanJoe](#): > > Consider my mind blown - I didn’t realize it but the minute I read your post I had an instant :smack: moment. No offense meant, but I am pretty surprised people don’t recognize him. He has a pretty unique face, I think. Maybe it’s the lack of Irish-American/Boston accent and dual pistols. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-05-chupacabra-open-spoilers/602843/80 "2011-11-14T22:59:56Z")
The outtro music to this episode should have been Dylan’s ‘Maggie’s Farm’. mmm [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-05-chupacabra-open-spoilers/602843.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-05-chupacabra-open-spoilers/602843.md?page=5)