# The Walking Dead; 2.10 "18 Miles Out" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 27, 2012, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-10-18-miles-out-open-spoilers/614102 "2012-02-27T01:21:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-10-18-miles-out-open-spoilers/614102/1 "2012-02-27T01:21:37Z")
Well, everyone’s made it back to the farm only they brought an outsider. I predict Lori will come up with another brillant idea like trying to train zombies as domestic servants to make up for the lack of washing machines. ---
**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-10-18-miles-out-open-spoilers/614102/2 "2012-02-27T02:27:41Z")
They’re fighting! I’m hoping Shane doesn’t survive this episode. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-10-18-miles-out-open-spoilers/614102/3 "2012-02-27T03:18:53Z")
I was hoping Rick would force Shane to put on a pair of sunglasses. ---
**Author:** ![stegon66](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee59a6/32.png) [@stegon66](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stegon66)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-10-18-miles-out-open-spoilers/614102/4 "2012-02-27T03:23:23Z")
One of the best episodes yet. Shane and Andrea discover their hardcore survivalist mentality may not be the best option. All that and we get the ol’ zombie head versus a car tire! ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-10-18-miles-out-open-spoilers/614102/5 "2012-02-27T03:52:36Z")
Lotsa good Walker action. Shane may be on the road to recovery. Or “lying in the weeds” waiting for a more opportune time to strike. I said it before in another WD thread that Rick is a Paladin, but unlike the tired Trope, he is not Lawful Stupid (although God knows he skirts perilously close at times, if not jump back-and-forth across that line :rolleyes: ) He’ll navel-gaze, dither and debate with himself, but when it’s time to act, he’s damned near a super-hero. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-10-18-miles-out-open-spoilers/614102/6 "2012-02-27T04:09:57Z")
> [@ExTank](#): > > Lotsa good Walker action. Shane may be on the road to recovery. You’d think so, but now that Andrea a pariah to the other women, she’ll be on his ass even more. Do you think that if Shane hadn’t slept with Lori, Rick might be more willing to listen to him? If those two could find common ground, their survival chances would improve. There’d be less drama, but there’s a whole world of bad guys out there. It’s time for the writers to let those two bury the hatchet. Sepinwall thinks that Rick wasn’t planning on going back for Shane until he saw those two guys in uniform, dead on the ground. And Randall? I don’t trust him. He was a bit too gleeful, killing that walker. Or maybe he was psyched up at putting his video game skills to use. It looks like the crew from last week was on their way to the farm. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-10-18-miles-out-open-spoilers/614102/7 "2012-02-27T04:43:10Z")
I liked the parallel of having Rick and Shane beating each other up at the same time Lori and Andrea were yelling at each other. Once again, I feel the need to remind this bunch of chuckleheads that it is THE ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE! Try to fight quietly! ---
**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-10-18-miles-out-open-spoilers/614102/8 "2012-02-27T04:46:02Z")
I don’t get the whole “we either have to ditch Randall somewhere where he can’t find us, or we kill him.” What the hell? Why not give him a chance to prove himself? Yeah, he was with a survivalist group that had some obvious bad apples - has Randall himself done anything to warrant suspicion? After all, Rick’s group had Darryl, Otis (Otis!!) and Shane - not exactly nice guys I’d want to run into in a lawless apocalyptic situation myself. Randall just might decide he likes Rick’s group a hell of a lot better than some hanging with some psychopaths. Rick’s group could use all the help it can get it seems to me. And even if he is a bad apple, did he not just get his leg impaled on a big spire?? Even if he thought about sneaking away (back to the crew that _deserted him_ might I add), he sure as hell wouldn’t be getting too far on that leg! Lori & Andrea had both better be eaten by zombies by the end of this season. I can not take much more of either of these dimwitted, whinny, stupid bitches! You can throw Dale and T-bone to the walkers as well. Try expanding some of Hisch’s other daughters aside from Maggie into real characters and let them be the female leads. OTOH, I did like Shane get a little taste of his own medicine. He can talk all the bad-ass survivalist B.S. he wants, but when he’s the one trapped he wants someone coming to his rescue. It’d be nice if he learned the obvious lesson, but doubtful. And the slight exchange about the dead guards - “They were walkers, but there’s no sign of bite marks.” There’s something Rick isn’t saying - I’ll bet it’s what the CDC whispered to him in last year’s finale. I hope so, it means that they didn’t simply forget all the dangling threads from last year. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-10-18-miles-out-open-spoilers/614102/9 "2012-02-27T04:55:08Z")
How is Otis on the same level as Darryl and Shane? He shot Carl, but it was a mistake. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-10-18-miles-out-open-spoilers/614102/10 "2012-02-27T04:59:19Z")
> [@Ephemera](#): > > How is Otis on the same level as Darryl and Shane? He shot Carl, but it was a mistake. My bad. I didn’t mean Otis…I meant Darryl’s racist, redneck brother from s.1, who was inadvertently left handcuffed to a pipe on the roof and then sawed off his own hand. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-10-18-miles-out-open-spoilers/614102/11 "2012-02-27T04:59:46Z")
> [@Ephemera](#): > > How is Otis on the same level as Darryl and Shane? He shot Carl, but it was a mistake. Exactly. Otis was definitely a “good guy.” ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-10-18-miles-out-open-spoilers/614102/12 "2012-02-27T05:14:28Z")
I didn’t like the way the episode started, with the scene from the middle of the episode. I don’t like knowing what’s coming, even when I don’t know how it will shake out. For some reason, it doesn’t bug me when they do it on _Breaking Bad_, but it didn’t work as well here. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-10-18-miles-out-open-spoilers/614102/13 "2012-02-27T05:17:34Z")
> [@Don\_Draper](#): > > \ > And the slight exchange about the dead guards - “They were walkers, but there’s no sign of bite marks.” There’s something Rick isn’t saying - I’ll bet it’s what the CDC whispered to him in last year’s finale. I hope so, it means that they didn’t simply forget all the dangling threads from last year. I noticed that, too, and that’s what I thought, too. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-10-18-miles-out-open-spoilers/614102/14 "2012-02-27T05:22:46Z")
“The Young and the Deathless” - thanks, Kevin Smith. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-10-18-miles-out-open-spoilers/614102/15 "2012-02-27T05:27:36Z")
The writers must have thought stabbing zombies in the head looked cool and decided to wear it out in this episode. It looked like Shane was going to grow up but I suspect he’s going to continue being a dickhead until the season finale when someone has to protect Rick from him… > [@Don\_Draper](#): > > I don’t get the whole “we either have to ditch Randall somewhere where he can’t find us, or we kill him.” Me either. The other group left him to die while Rick saved him. They could at least talk to the guy and try to figure out his motivations and whether he has any allegiance or ill feelings toward Rick’s group. And, more importantly, dig for information on the other group. How many are there? Are the type to seek revenge? The two Rick killed could have been the outcast jerks and the rest of the people in the group could be old women, or they could have been well respected leaders of a group of ex-cons. It would be good to know. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-10-18-miles-out-open-spoilers/614102/16 "2012-02-27T05:42:49Z")
Something I noticed, and kind of liked: in the Randal POV shots from the the trunk, Rick and Shane look kind of skeevy. Like maybe they’re going to pull the hood off his head one of these times and it’s going to be the basement of the pawn shop from Pulp Fiction. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-10-18-miles-out-open-spoilers/614102/17 "2012-02-27T06:14:02Z")
> [@Don\_Draper](#): > > …And the slight exchange about the dead guards - “They were walkers, but there’s no sign of bite marks.” There’s something Rick isn’t saying - I’ll bet it’s what the CDC whispered to him in last year’s finale. I hope so, it means that they didn’t simply forget all the dangling threads from last year. Very ominous. While there are other explanations for the lack of bite wounds on the cops (eg their uniforms are covering them) it’s looks like the writers are going the “everyone’s infected, instead of killing you the virus lies dormant 'till you die of something else & reanimate”. I predict a big reveal in the season finale. ---
**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-10-18-miles-out-open-spoilers/614102/18 "2012-02-27T06:45:08Z")
The guards were also very freshly dead. I don’t know what it means though, there were the burnt bodies indicating there had been walkers there (not to mention the walkers that attacked Rick/Shane). This just irritates… At the beginning, Shane and Rick stop at an intersection to talk then after driving away Shane watches a walker in a field to the passenger side. On the return trip, they approach the same intersection from the same direction as before, and Shane again watches the walker on the passenger side. The first time, Shane has no blood on his face, the second time he does, so it’s not a flashback. How did that get past the writers? ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-10-18-miles-out-open-spoilers/614102/19 "2012-02-27T07:57:41Z")
Did anybody notice that Beth slipped into an English accent a couple of times? It seems Randall recovered really quickly considering he impaled his leg on an iron spike. Even bypassing major nerves and arteries and what not, that’s got to take some mending. ---
**Author:** ![Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disgruntled_Penguin)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2012, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-10-18-miles-out-open-spoilers/614102/20 "2012-02-27T08:33:33Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Did anybody notice that Beth slipped into an English accent a couple of times? > > It seems Randall recovered really quickly considering he impaled his leg on an iron spike. Even bypassing major nerves and arteries and what not, that’s got to take some mending. He’s got nothing on Carl in the quick recovery department. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-10-18-miles-out-open-spoilers/614102.md?page=2)