# The Walking Dead; 2.12 "Better Angels" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 12, 2012, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-12-better-angels-open-spoilers/615502 "2012-03-12T00:25:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-12-better-angels-open-spoilers/615502/342 "2012-03-16T03:25:26Z")
Perhaps only carnivores reanimate. Speaking of, where are all the dogs? You’d think there’d be packs of “dogs gone wild” by now. But where are the dogs? There ought to be dogs? Well maybe… next year. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-12-better-angels-open-spoilers/615502/343 "2012-03-16T03:29:02Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > Not sure about that - if an adult gets attacked by a single zombie (or a small group) and gets bitten, he/she has a shot at getting away. A kid, not so much - most bitten children are going to be lunch. I’m pretty sure child extras cost alot more than adult ones and there are also restrictions on how long they can be on set, they need chaperones & tutors (unless filming takes place during school breaks), and I assume all the time they need to spend in makeup eats away from the time they’re allowed to work. ---
**Author:** ![cerberus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cerberus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cerberus)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-12-better-angels-open-spoilers/615502/344 "2012-03-16T03:32:44Z")
If everybody rises, per the comic then there would be a post-mortem protocol that would eventually kick in, analgous to “enhanced burial protocols”. ---
**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-12-better-angels-open-spoilers/615502/345 "2012-03-16T04:38:53Z")
> [@obfusciatrist](#): > > I have a hard time believing it wouldn’t be quickly clear to people going through this apocalypse that people never bitten were re-animating within minutes. But I’m willing to go along with it until they do or say something that contradicts it. Maybe a lot of people did but it was never reported widely on television or our group didn’t catch the news. Once the outbreak really spread, people split off into groups and lost contact and maybe our group never learned that information. It’s not like our group shares information anyway. One of my main gripes is that if you’re in a zombie apocalypse, how do you not have a meeting every day to discuss what needs to be done and share info and ideas? Jenner would have been an excellent source of information and any normal people would have asked a million questions, but our group left the CDC having only seen a fancy video that didn’t do anything except illustrate that dead people were becoming mobile. Instead of saying “It’s bad out there” and striking a cool look for the camera, how do you not discuss anything about what’s going on in the world with Hershel or tell him what you learned at the CDC? If they had, he probably would have seen his error and told them what was in the barn and asked for their help cleaning it out. After they learned that Hershel thought he could cure them, how could they not tell him about what they learned at the CDC to change his mind? > [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Well, heck. > I just bought a TV Wonder USB, hoping it will work better than the antique Wonder card. I’m trying to save some AT&T Uverse recordings that won’t burn to DVD, including all the episodes of \*Walking Dead. > \* > I ran Linux for a bit, but not playing Doom made me quit. > I have some PCs laying around I’d be willing to convert. Well, you could do it with windows too, I just don’t know how. I have a Roku, and that’s what I use to play them on the TV. There’s a channel (channels are what Roku calls their programs) called [My Media server](http://forums.roku.com/viewtopic.php?t=25955) and a companion program for the computer which serves the files to the My Media channel. With my setup, I have linux computer automatically grab the files after airtime, re-encode them and put the finished files on a NAS drive. I use a [Pogoplug](http://www.google.com/products/catalog?num=20&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&q=pogoplug&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=14636770147493163285&sa=X&ei=6LhiT4rhIc-ltweGuK2HCA&ved=0CGwQ8wIwBw) running Debian Linux to run the My Media program and serve files from the NAS to the My Media Roku channel. I also have the pogoplug notify me via my phone when new files are ready to watch. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-12-better-angels-open-spoilers/615502/346 "2012-03-16T22:32:24Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Speaking of, where are all the dogs? You’d think there’d be packs of “dogs gone wild” by now. Zombies probably ate most of the dogs. And cats. And other assorted household animals. > [@Folacin](#): > > Assuming that everyone is infected, the thing that currently bothers me is why does getting bit lead to fever, death and reanimation Getting bit in general can spread all sorts of nasty stuff. Getting bit by a walking corpse probably moreso. ---
**Author:** ![Chipacabra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@Chipacabra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chipacabra)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-12-better-angels-open-spoilers/615502/347 "2012-03-17T03:11:57Z")
I think there have been too many corpses laying around that never reanimated, at least at the beginning of the series. That being said, I have a suspicion about what was whispered in Rick’s ear: ‘It’s mutating.’ Maybe it’s a new development that all bodies will become walkers. It would explain why Rick didn’t tell anyone; it’d just make people freak out but there’s nothing anyone can DO about it, especially if Jenner didn’t know what form the mutation would take. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-12-better-angels-open-spoilers/615502/348 "2012-03-17T05:07:13Z")
> [@Chipacabra](#): > > I think there have been too many corpses laying around that never reanimated, at least at the beginning of the series. That being said, I have a suspicion about what was whispered in Rick’s ear: > > ‘It’s mutating.’ > > Maybe it’s a new development that all bodies will become walkers. It would explain why Rick didn’t tell anyone; it’d just make people freak out but there’s nothing anyone can DO about it, especially if Jenner didn’t know what form the mutation would take. Interesting. So perhaps the virus started off being transmitted by bites from an infected person, and the mutation is what causes unbitten people to re-animate as zombies. That would explain a lot - the dead bodies in the cars, and how we have two different ways to become a zombie (being bitten or just die). ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-12-better-angels-open-spoilers/615502/349 "2012-03-17T05:11:50Z")
> [@Chipacabra](#): > > I think there have been too many corpses laying around that never reanimated, at least at the beginning of the series. Such as? I can’t recall seeing any corpses laying around that didn’t have head trauma (bullets or otherwise), with the exception of the bodies in the cars at the beginning of season 2. And I think that was just a mindless decision that was made without thinking about whether it followed the “zombie rules” in the Walking Dead universe. ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-12-better-angels-open-spoilers/615502/350 "2012-03-17T22:49:59Z")
> [@Fubaya](#): > > Well, you could do it with windows too, I just don’t know how. I have a Roku, and that’s what I use to play them on the TV. There’s a channel (channels are what Roku calls their programs) called [My Media server](http://forums.roku.com/viewtopic.php?t=25955) and a companion program for the computer which serves the files to the My Media channel. Cool beans. I got it set up on my Roku/Windows PC. If I only had some content… ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-12-better-angels-open-spoilers/615502/351 "2012-03-18T02:43:12Z")
> [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](#): > > Cool beans. I got it set up on my Roku/Windows PC. If I only had some content… The USB TV Wonder “card” works to copy protected Walking Dead files to a USB terabyte drive on the network, but editing it on the PC with the various programs fellates with great allacrity. An HP laptop with 4 gigs. Easier to copy it from the cable DVR to my HD/DVR and edit it, then to the laptop, but that is three hours for each episode. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-2-12-better-angels-open-spoilers/615502.md?page=17)