# The Walking Dead; 3.02 "Sick" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 22, 2012, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-02-sick-open-spoilers/638468 "2012-10-22T00:16:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-02-sick-open-spoilers/638468/61 "2012-10-22T20:20:39Z")
Merle barely counts as a regular. And he is quite possibly alive. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-02-sick-open-spoilers/638468/62 "2012-10-22T20:37:35Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > \without contributing anything of value.\ I was going to say that at least she can have babies, but if she can’t have babies without a caesarian, then she is a biological dead-end in the new world. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-02-sick-open-spoilers/638468/63 "2012-10-22T20:40:50Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Let’s see: > > Shane > Merle > Carol’s Husband and Daughter > Dude zombified and killed on the highway > Lady who died at the CDC > Mom? and son from the farm > Guy who shot Carl > Andrea’s sister > > So at least 10. I’m sure I’m forgetting some. Dale died on the farm when a zombie ripped him open.. Hershel’s wife was already dead (in the barn), and Beth’s friend Jimmy died when they left the farm at the end of last season. Shane killed Randall, the guy they brought back after the shootout in town. ---
**Author:** ![Flander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8c91f0/32.png) [@Flander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flander)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-02-sick-open-spoilers/638468/64 "2012-10-22T21:57:07Z")
Why is it that the black guy from the first few episodes of season one has better character development than T-Dog? Also, did Rick give up on that guy or what? ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-02-sick-open-spoilers/638468/65 "2012-10-22T22:06:46Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > Dale died on the farm when a zombie ripped him open.. > Hershel’s wife was already dead (in the barn), and Beth’s friend Jimmy died when they left the farm at the end of last season. > Shane killed Randall, the guy they brought back after the shootout in town. The little girl they looked for all the second season. ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-02-sick-open-spoilers/638468/66 "2012-10-22T22:10:00Z")
When they were explaining what had happened to the world while the inmates were trapped did I hear correctly Rick saying that they figure more than half the population is gone? Seemed like a serious understatement but I wasn’t sure I heard right and didn’t bother going back. ---
**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-02-sick-open-spoilers/638468/67 "2012-10-22T22:18:26Z")
> [@obfusciatrist](#): > > When they were explaining what had happened to the world while the inmates were trapped did I hear correctly Rick saying that they figure more than half the population is gone? > > Seemed like a serious understatement but I wasn’t sure I heard right and didn’t bother going back. Yeah, he said something like “at least half, probably more.” And I agree that it sounded like a huge understatement. ---
**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-02-sick-open-spoilers/638468/68 "2012-10-22T22:25:18Z")
I think if they were locked in the cafeteria for all those months, they would have nothing BUT time to groom themselves. 😛 They seem kind of well-adjusted for all that. Other than blinking in the sunlight, jailbirds or not, you’d never know they’d been entombed in a room with no communications from the outside, all that time. (I wonder if there are any bodies of murdered prisoners stuffed in that freezer?) ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-02-sick-open-spoilers/638468/69 "2012-10-22T22:56:51Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > Rick had to run after that guy because he didn’t know what he was capable of and they needed to neutralize him one way or the other. Yeah, I assumed that Rick figured it was a bad idea (quite reasonably, IMO) to risk Guy With a Bat and a Grudge finding his way back to Cell Block C. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2012, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-02-sick-open-spoilers/638468/70 "2012-10-22T23:13:57Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > The little girl they looked for all the second season. That was Sophia, Carol’s daughter. **enalzi** had her on his list: > [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Carol’s Husband and Daughter ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-02-sick-open-spoilers/638468/71 "2012-10-23T00:10:00Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > Hershel’s wife was already dead (in the barn), and Beth’s friend Jimmy died when they left the farm at the end of last season. Wasn’t there an older women on the farm when they first showed up? ---
**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-02-sick-open-spoilers/638468/72 "2012-10-23T00:19:28Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Wasn’t there an older women on the farm when they first showed up? Patricia? She dead. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-02-sick-open-spoilers/638468/73 "2012-10-23T00:30:07Z")
I don’t buy that Tomas got along with his cellmates for those 10 months. I put the over/under of number of bodies Tomas killed and stuffed in the toilet room at 3. Lorie, Beth, Maggie and Carol represent an embarassment of riches for our gang. Actual, living women who can bear children in an apocalypse are worth 100 men. I don’t blame Rick a bit for killing the prisoners he killed, and further I probably would have killed the other two as well. As for our gang being the bad guys and not getting along with anyone they meet, they’ve met three groups of people so far, and the two groups of only guys were highly shady and got the killing they deserved at the hands of Rick. (Guidos in the bar, and the convicts.) The third group they came across wasn’t all guys, and that group was assimilated rather well, if a bit slowly. I’m not seeing a huge issue with our gang getting along with others who are worth trying to get along with. Basically, I guess what I’m saying is that if your group is only guys, I recommend killing. If there’s women in your group, assimilate. ---
**Author:** ![Flander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8c91f0/32.png) [@Flander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flander)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-02-sick-open-spoilers/638468/74 "2012-10-23T00:41:42Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > If there’s women in your group, assimilate. Resistance is futile. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-02-sick-open-spoilers/638468/75 "2012-10-23T01:03:20Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Let’s see: > > Merle Merle’s alive, more than likely. > [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Carol’s Husband and Daughter Ed and Sophia > [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Dude zombified and killed on the highway Are you talking about the guy they left under a tree? Jim > [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Lady who died at the CDC Jackie > [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Mom? and son from the farm Annette (Maggie’s stepmom) and Billy (I think) > [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Guy who shot Carl Otis > [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Andrea’s sister Amy There’s also Jenner at the CDC (great shout-out). ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-02-sick-open-spoilers/638468/76 "2012-10-23T01:06:26Z")
> [@Reverse](#): > > They’re the only two we know about. There could be others. Don’t see that - they would have been ten months with nothing to eat except possibly zombies, which can’t be good for you. The prisoners we met had the cafeteria, and I can’t imagine a prison having more than one of those. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-02-sick-open-spoilers/638468/77 "2012-10-23T01:08:51Z")
> [@leftfield6](#): > > Completing your list: > > Daryl > T-Dog > Glenn > Maggie > Carol > Herschell > Carl > Zombie baby > **Any Random Zombie > Plastic Fork > …then Lori** > > :)🙂 Oops, forgot to add others above Lori; Zombaby Any random zombie **inanimate carbon rod** Plastic fork **the zombie pathogen itself** **soil bacteria** …then Lori ---
**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-02-sick-open-spoilers/638468/78 "2012-10-23T01:20:47Z")
> [@Kinthalis](#): > > I mean, they come out COVERED in zombie blood every time they go outing. Blood in the eyes, in the mouth, cross contamination when eating, etc. Really they should all have died from zombie fever by now. In last week’s episode two things really bugged me. First Daryl put his hand over the mouth of a zombie as he stabbed it in the head, then when Maggie sat on the cot, Glenn started kissing her zombie blood splattered shoulder. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-02-sick-open-spoilers/638468/79 "2012-10-23T01:50:09Z")
Rather convenient that the pathogen behaves in just the exact way it needs to in every scene, kinda like Mitichlorians, in fact Maybe we should refer to the pathogen as “zombiechlorians” or “walkerchlorians”, maybe “brainsichlorians”… ?Plotichlorians?.. Magic Bacteria (Band Name!), yeah, that’s the ticket ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-02-sick-open-spoilers/638468/80 "2012-10-23T01:52:16Z")
Well, it hasn’t been discussed much, but having access to the prison laundry suggests a good supply of soap. That’s certainly bound to be useful. Semi-related, if zombies aren’t attracted by the smell of other zombies (as indicated by an early episode where characters could walk among the zombies if they first covered themselves in zombie guts), what about killing zombies through the fence and then spacing their bodies out evenly along the perimeter? Wouldn’t that tend to discourage others? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-02-sick-open-spoilers/638468.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-02-sick-open-spoilers/638468.md?page=5)