# The Walking Dead; 3.03 "Walk with Me" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 29, 2012, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-03-walk-with-me-open-spoilers/639173 "2012-10-29T00:24:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![MeanJoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanjoe/32/5693_2.png) [@MeanJoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanJoe)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-03-walk-with-me-open-spoilers/639173/81 "2012-10-31T13:19:22Z")
WARNING: COMIC BOOK SPOILERS CONTAINED WITHIN SPOILER TAGS Regarding The Governor and the final scene this week with the heads in the tanks: [spoiler]I let a friend borrow my comic books so I could not go back and refresh my memory. I don’t recall this being in the comic book at all. I do recall The Governor’s big secret was his daughter being in the locked room. (I will not go into more detail than that so that those who cannot resist looking at spoilers even when they don’t really want to do not get too much information) 1.) Am I wrong about the heads being in the comic? 2.) Do you think they’ll work the daughter into the story or just try to make the point that The Governor is really disturbed due to the heads? [/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-03-walk-with-me-open-spoilers/639173/82 "2012-10-31T13:38:49Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > I was probably seeing things, and don’t have a DVR to check, but were some of the heads in the office still alive? It seemed like some of the mouths were moving. Yep. Eyes, too. Looks like if you don’t actually penetrate the skull and damage the brain, it doesn’t completely finish the job. Grawr! Get back here! I’ll bite your knees off! ---
**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-03-walk-with-me-open-spoilers/639173/83 "2012-10-31T14:27:37Z")
> [@MeanJoe](#): > > WARNING: COMIC BOOK SPOILERS CONTAINED WITHIN SPOILER TAGS > > Regarding The Governor and the final scene this week with the heads in the tanks: > > [spoiler]I let a friend borrow my comic books so I could not go back and refresh my memory. I don’t recall this being in the comic book at all. I do recall The Governor’s big secret was his daughter being in the locked room. > > (I will not go into more detail than that so that those who cannot resist looking at spoilers even when they don’t really want to do not get too much information) > > 1.) Am I wrong about the heads being in the comic? > 2.) Do you think they’ll work the daughter into the story or just try to make the point that The Governor is really disturbed due to the heads? > [/spoiler] Comic spoiler fueled response: The heads were there in the comic. The Governor even makes a remark to the effect of “there’s never anything good on TV” while watching them. ---
**Author:** ![MeanJoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanjoe/32/5693_2.png) [@MeanJoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanJoe)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-03-walk-with-me-open-spoilers/639173/84 "2012-10-31T14:30:48Z")
Thanks **oft wears hats**! ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-03-walk-with-me-open-spoilers/639173/85 "2012-10-31T15:42:11Z")
> [@Rushgeekgirl](#): > > I don’t feel any dislike for her but she’s not one of my favorites. I guess her skill is fertility? 😛 Not even that - they figure she’ll need a caesarian section to deliver, since she needed one with Carl. As a female viewer, I just think Lori is useless; I don’t particularly hate her. All she seems to do is cause drama. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-03-walk-with-me-open-spoilers/639173/86 "2012-10-31T16:09:28Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Well, the way it’s been presented so far, the Governer knows he’s a big fish in a small pond, and he evidently wants to keep the pond small and manageable. Hanging on to a smattering of people who he figures will be subservient to him is worth a bit of effort to convince them to stay. Armed groups like the National Guardsmen are a potential threat to his authority and so their weapons and hardware are worth a lot more to the Gov than the soldiers themselves are. > > I imagine he would consider Rick (but not necessarily the rest of his group) in the same light. That’s what I was thinking. The Governor might take on a straggler or two occasionally, but would not want too many additions to the group at once. And he sure would not want any one who might usurp his authority! ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-03-walk-with-me-open-spoilers/639173/87 "2012-10-31T16:12:38Z")
I have a question about Rick, from the beginning of the series – how long was he trapped in the hospital room in a coma? ---
**Author:** ![wheresmymind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/91b2a8/32.png) [@wheresmymind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wheresmymind)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-03-walk-with-me-open-spoilers/639173/88 "2012-10-31T17:23:05Z")
> [@gytalf2000](#): > > I have a question about Rick, from the beginning of the series – how long was he trapped in the hospital room in a coma? About 60 days. It appears the outbreak started at the same time he entered the coma, and he was in the coma for about 2 weeks before Shane last saw him (when the military started shooting the patients and the hospital fell). Seems remarkable he could survive 45 days without food or water, and within one day be traveling on horseback, toting a duffel bag that must have had at least 40 lbs of guns and ammo, running around with Glenn and the gang, etc. [Here’s a pretty detailed timeline](http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Television_Show_Timeline) of the events that has helped me put the first two seasons into perspective. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-03-walk-with-me-open-spoilers/639173/89 "2012-10-31T17:49:35Z")
> [@wheresmymind](#): > > About 60 days. It appears the outbreak started at the same time he entered the coma, and he was in the coma for about 2 weeks before Shane last saw him (when the military started shooting the patients and the hospital fell). Seems remarkable he could survive 45 days without food or water, and within one day be traveling on horseback, toting a duffel bag that must have had at least 40 lbs of guns and ammo, running around with Glenn and the gang, etc. > > [Here’s a pretty detailed timeline](http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Television_Show_Timeline) of the events that has helped me put the first two seasons into perspective. Thanks very much. ---
**Author:** ![Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-03-walk-with-me-open-spoilers/639173/90 "2012-10-31T17:54:28Z")
For the record, I hate Lori too. For all the reasons already stated. Plus, I realize this is a touchy subject, but I think it was damned irresponsible of her to stay pregnant when she could have ended the pregnancy early on with little risk (setting aside the stupid writing error confusing morning after with RU486). Pregnancy, childbirth, and caring for an infant are huge drains on the group resources, AND it clearly must be Shane’s baby, which adds a massive amount of conflict between the two possible leaders of the group! And wasn’t she the one ragging on Andrea for not reverting to 1950s division of labor at the farm? She’s just irritating and causing trouble at every opportunity. I like **Oft** ’s term - she’s a walking difficulty generator. ---
**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-03-walk-with-me-open-spoilers/639173/91 "2012-11-01T00:30:51Z")
> [@MeanJoe](#): > > Thanks **oft wears hats**! You’re very welcome! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-03-walk-with-me-open-spoilers/639173/92 "2012-11-01T02:19:19Z")
> [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](#): > > Plus, I realize this is a touchy subject, but I think it was damned irresponsible of her to stay pregnant when she could have ended the pregnancy early on with little risk (setting aside the stupid writing error confusing morning after with RU486). Didn’t Rick insist that she have the kid? ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-03-walk-with-me-open-spoilers/639173/93 "2012-11-01T03:01:59Z")
> [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](#): > > …Plus, I realize this is a touchy subject, but I think it was damned irresponsible of her to stay pregnant when she could have ended the pregnancy early on with little risk (setting aside the stupid writing error confusing morning after with RU486… I’m not sure that was actually a writer’s error as opposed to a character error. Lori knew they were morning-after pills and that she didn’t know if ODing on them would work. It was _Maggie_ who started yelling about “abortion pills”; which is not an unrealistic mistake for a pro-lifer in the Bible belt to make. Which is ironic since another episode established that Maggie takes (or took) birth control pills; some morning-after pills are just highter dose birth control pills. > [@Folacin](#): > > I was probably seeing things, and don’t have a DVR to check, but were some of the heads in the office still alive? It seemed like some of the mouths were moving. They’re all “alive”; severing the spinal column doesn’t cause brain damage. What would be the point of putting a dead zombie head in an aquarium? > [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Didn’t Rick insist that she have the kid? She vomited up the pills before Rick discovered them or knew she was pregnant. Actually I think Rick may have found them while she was vomiting. Either way he was pissed, but it’s not clear if it he was opposed to abortion in general, or just mad that his wife would make a decsicion like that behind his back. I don’t see how he could’ve really thought the kid was his though. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-03-walk-with-me-open-spoilers/639173/94 "2012-11-01T22:46:14Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > I don’t see how he could’ve really thought the kid was his though. He is a guy, and as such eternally optimistic about women. ---
**Author:** ![Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-03-walk-with-me-open-spoilers/639173/95 "2012-11-02T01:11:42Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > I’m not sure that was actually a writer’s error as opposed to a character error. Lori knew they were morning-after pills and that she didn’t know if ODing on them would work. It was _Maggie_ who started yelling about “abortion pills”; which is not an unrealistic mistake for a pro-lifer in the Bible belt to make. Which is ironic since another episode established that Maggie takes (or took) birth control pills; some morning-after pills are just highter dose birth control pills. That makes sense. I was probably viewing the whole thing through my bias against Lori and got it wrong. But Lori is still a douchewaffle. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-03-walk-with-me-open-spoilers/639173/96 "2012-11-02T17:22:52Z")
> [@oft\_wears\_hats](#): > > This. The moment she grabbed the car and ran off to check on Rick for no good reason, then crashed the car because she wasn’t watching the road. It was just so monumentally stupid. > > That, and she has done very little in the whole series to actually help things. She’s mostly there to cause problems, and that’s kind of how the writers seem to be treating her: as a walking difficulty generator. “Walking difficulty generator” – oh, I like that! Funny! Perfect description of her character. ---
**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-03-walk-with-me-open-spoilers/639173/97 "2012-11-02T23:56:11Z")
Am I the only one who totally thought of _The Village_, watching this episode? > [@carnivorousplant](#): > > O any of you female viewers dislike Lori? I don’t have the vicious Lori hate of a lot of other viewers, but I don’t particularly like her. She’s definitely my least favourite of the female characters. Though if Michonne doesn’t start doing something other than scowling she might be giving her a run for her money. ---
**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2012, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-03-walk-with-me-open-spoilers/639173/98 "2012-11-03T02:58:58Z")
> [@ruadh](#): > > Am I the only one who totally thought of _The Village_, watching this episode? > > I don’t have the vicious Lori hate of a lot of other viewers, but I don’t particularly like her. She’s definitely my least favourite of the female characters. Though if Michonne doesn’t start doing something other than scowling she might be giving her a run for her money. Michonne’s definitely lacking in the characterization department at the moment, but she’s killed infinity percent more zombies and needlessly crashed infinity percent less cars than Lori has, so she’s got a strong head start in my book. ---
**Author:** ![SuperNelson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@SuperNelson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuperNelson)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2013, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-03-walk-with-me-open-spoilers/639173/99 "2013-02-04T18:57:21Z")
> [@Critical1](#): > > my take on the tea is that it is highly addictive or possibly a type of poison, the kind you die from when you stop getting the antidote. My first thought is that the tea was brewed from zombie heads in the Governor’s house. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-03-walk-with-me-open-spoilers/639173.md?page=4)