# The Walking Dead; 3.04 "Killer Within" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 5, 2012, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-04-killer-within-open-spoilers/639908 "2012-11-05T01:05:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-04-killer-within-open-spoilers/639908/141 "2012-11-06T18:33:55Z")
> [@oft\_wears\_hats](#): > > I like how Merle is developing; he’s turning out to be an interesting character and I’m hoping we get to see more interaction between him and the main group, especially Daryl. I wonder if that is why the killed T-Dog. ---
**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-04-killer-within-open-spoilers/639908/142 "2012-11-06T18:37:58Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I wonder if that is why the killed T-Dog. Hrm. You think perhaps they’re planning to reintegrate Merle back into the main group and they needed T-Dog out of the way to avoid tension between him and Merle from when he dropped the handcuff key when escaping the roof? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-04-killer-within-open-spoilers/639908/143 "2012-11-06T19:02:10Z")
> [@UncleRojelio](#): > > I think the only folks who really know what is happening are the Governor’s hit squaddies. And probably the professor too. Everyone else is as enamored as Blondie. There are only 70-odd people in the town, right? There had to be at least 10 men in the raid on the military. No way are that many men going to keep everything secret. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-04-killer-within-open-spoilers/639908/144 "2012-11-06T19:03:59Z")
Bender: _Phillip?!_ ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-04-killer-within-open-spoilers/639908/145 "2012-11-06T19:33:20Z")
> [@Fubaya](#): > > A katana vs zombies is too comic bookish to me A show based on a comic is too comic bookish to you? :dubious: 😃 Weapons always seem to work better in fiction than in real life. Hell, just the ease most of these untrained rag tag survivors seem to have with getting off headshots approximately 90% of the time is pretty astounding. Even Rick shouldn’t be that good. Unless I’m mistaken cops are trained to shoot for center mass, not heads. ---
**Author:** ![Furious\_Marmot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dfb087/32.png) [@Furious\_Marmot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Furious_Marmot)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-04-killer-within-open-spoilers/639908/146 "2012-11-06T19:41:56Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > Even Rick shouldn’t be that good. Unless I’m mistaken cops are trained to shoot for center mass, not heads. Judging from that limp wrist grip he uses, I’m not sure much of the police training sank in. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-04-killer-within-open-spoilers/639908/147 "2012-11-06T19:42:16Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > A show based on a comic is too comic bookish to you? :dubious: > > 😃 > > Weapons always seem to work better in fiction than in real life. Hell, just the ease most of these untrained rag tag survivors seem to have with getting off headshots approximately 90% of the time is pretty astounding. Even Rick shouldn’t be that good. Unless I’m mistaken cops are trained to shoot for center mass, not heads. That’s silly. Aiming is the skill learned, aiming for center of mass is a tactic. However, your 90% headshot estimate seems about right and I agree that it’s “astounding” for a bunch of untrained goofballs. ---
**Author:** ![Scupper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Scupper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scupper)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-04-killer-within-open-spoilers/639908/148 "2012-11-06T19:42:24Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > A show based on a comic is too comic bookish to you? :dubious: > > 😃 > > Weapons always seem to work better in fiction than in real life. Hell, just the ease most of these untrained rag tag survivors seem to have with getting off headshots approximately 90% of the time is pretty astounding. Even Rick shouldn’t be that good. Unless I’m mistaken cops are trained to shoot for center mass, not heads. From moving cars, over rough ground, in the dark, no less, back when the herd overran the Farm. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-04-killer-within-open-spoilers/639908/149 "2012-11-06T20:04:36Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > “Holy crap, is that T-Dog?” > “How should I know?” > “The dude’s been with us for a year!” > “Eh. Probably more like a month or two all told. There are weeks on end where we don’t even see him. I’m not sure where he goes, actually.” > “Well he sure looks like T-Dog” > “Um…I guess. He looks black, I’ll give you that. But we already have a black guy in our group so this probably isn’t him.” > “You mean the dude from the prison?” > “Prison? Aaaaah. That makes so much sense now! I just thought he changed clothes.” > “Well no. But I’m going to call him T-Dog and we’ll see if anyone else notices.” T-Dog 2.0? T-Dog Rev. B? T-Dog Service Pack 2? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-04-killer-within-open-spoilers/639908/150 "2012-11-06T20:15:39Z")
U-Dog. ---
**Author:** ![emarkp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3be4f8/32.png) [@emarkp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emarkp)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-04-killer-within-open-spoilers/639908/151 "2012-11-06T20:17:01Z")
Who Dog? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-04-killer-within-open-spoilers/639908/152 "2012-11-06T20:19:34Z")
I still like RBG, Replacement Black Guy. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-04-killer-within-open-spoilers/639908/153 "2012-11-06T20:22:09Z")
so - someone spoil for me what the guvner’s evil plan is - I get that he’s bad (killing the gaurd survivors) and is clearly a controller and has a serious hold over the townspeople - but I don’t get what the ‘plan’ is. I do not care if the spoiler is from the comics (and therefore might not apply) or if its speculation or if I missed something else more obvious - ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-04-killer-within-open-spoilers/639908/154 "2012-11-06T20:28:47Z")
Does he need any other “evil plan” than having his own little kingdom? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-04-killer-within-open-spoilers/639908/155 "2012-11-06T20:33:30Z")
Did he say he was planning to “take back civilization”? Would that mean trying to build his own army? Given that there are only 70-some people there, this would be a very long term plan, I would guess. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-04-killer-within-open-spoilers/639908/156 "2012-11-06T20:44:21Z")
I assume he wants to get the town’s infrastructure working again. Obviously you’d need a bit of an army to keep it secure. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-04-killer-within-open-spoilers/639908/157 "2012-11-06T21:09:57Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Did he say he was planning to “take back civilization”? Would that mean trying to build his own army? Given that there are only 70-some people there, this would be a very long term plan, I would guess. Breeder females of the species, would be my guess. I finally got around to watching this week’s ep. So we’re rid of wifey, and thank Og for that. Also token black guy, who somehow managed to not get killed right off in season one, as so often happens to our brothers. As I saw mentioned above, we have RBG now, so the color balance is maintained, but the wimmins are getting sort of scarce. And we still have to put up with that annoying kid. I was really hoping the baby would come out of the womb and bite his ass. An entertaining ep with lots of action, and Rick’s attempt to win an Emmy in the last scene. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-04-killer-within-open-spoilers/639908/158 "2012-11-06T21:11:29Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Does he need any other “evil plan” than having his own little kingdom? I’m guessing his plan involves learning how to control the zombies and, therefore, having a zombie army to control the rest of humanity. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-04-killer-within-open-spoilers/639908/159 "2012-11-06T21:11:55Z")
> [@simster](#): > > so - someone spoil for me what the guvner’s evil plan is A method of rendering human fat for those cool looking torches in front of his office. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2012, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-04-killer-within-open-spoilers/639908/160 "2012-11-06T22:07:27Z")
Did the previews show: the governor and his flock doing a Jonestown suicide kool-aid thing? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-04-killer-within-open-spoilers/639908.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-04-killer-within-open-spoilers/639908.md?page=9)