# The Walking Dead; 3.06 "Hounded" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 19, 2012, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-06-hounded-open-spoilers/641461 "2012-11-19T01:13:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2012, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-06-hounded-open-spoilers/641461/161 "2012-11-22T05:33:53Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > I’m confused by your question; I figured he recognized her as human _because_ she was carrying the basket. Considering the distance and Rick’s perspective, it just seemed very unlikely to me that he would even see the basket. It seemed almost immediate. mmm ETA: I re-read my other post; my basket reference was poorly worded. ---
**Author:** ![Feyrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/fbc32d/32.png) [@Feyrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feyrat)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2012, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-06-hounded-open-spoilers/641461/162 "2012-11-22T06:23:55Z")
> [@Just\_Ed](#): > > They make sure to give all their dead the appropriate head-wound to prevent turning (notice they did so after Michonne’s first attack, where they even knifed the disembodied head). He did have a slash wound from Michonne, but it was apparently shallow, since it didn’t affect him badly. Of course, with the area being zombie-infested, the condition of those bodies should they return to retrieve them is not going to be conducive to disproving any part of Merle’s story - and he was smart enough to blame his failure to bring back any souvenirs on the presence of a crowd of biters (though that wouldn’t explain the absence of the sword . . . ). After what happened with Lori, what do you think the chances are of coming back and finding them intact at all? We’re apparently supposed to believe that one Walker completely devoured Lori (or perhaps there were more, but they didn’t eat enough so they couldn’t shuffle away again) including her bones, hair and clothing. You’d think guys left out in the open woods would be lunchmeat way faster. It’s a shock anyone ever turns! > [@The\_Evil\_Prince\_Zorte](#): > > I don’t think it’s odd that Glen and Maggie come out with so few supplies. In general, there would have been enough time for most stores to get cleaned out at the start of the apocalypse. In fact, stores are the first place people would have gone in the panic to stock up for the end of civilization. The survivors would be better off searching the houses for stashes of food left behind by the now zombified hoarders. Dude, have you people seen pictures of what Wal-Mart or 7-11 looks like right before a hurricane or whatnot are expected to hit? That’s not even apocalypse shopping, that’s just “as many supplies as we can get to last us til the power’s back” shopping. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2012, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-06-hounded-open-spoilers/641461/163 "2012-11-22T10:44:32Z")
> [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](#): > > Have I told you lately that I love you? Not lately! ---
**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2012, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-06-hounded-open-spoilers/641461/164 "2012-11-22T15:59:34Z")
The talk about the soldiers seems to be missing a few points. The “large group of heavily armed soldiers” was actually 7 people. The pilot told the Gov that 10 escaped and 3 died in the crash. They had a safe camp and everything was great for a while, but someone got bitten and turned inside. Panic swept the people, the gate was opened and the camp fell. After they fled they got stuck in traffic and went up in the chopper to scout ahead. So, they had helped secure a camp (without taking it over and ruling everyone with an iron fist) but the civilians screwed up and they were looking for a new safe place to live. The notion that they were a clear threat that might wipe out the town, take all the supplies and rape everyone in sight is speculation that doesn’t jive with the story. It’s pretty obvious to me that he killed them not because he thought they were a threat but because he wanted their stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Samantha\_Leigh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b38774/32.png) [@Samantha\_Leigh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Samantha_Leigh)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2012, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-06-hounded-open-spoilers/641461/165 "2012-11-22T16:18:18Z")
> [@Just\_Ed](#): > > They make sure to give all their dead the appropriate head-wound to prevent turning (notice they did so after Michonne’s first attack, where they even knifed the disembodied head). He did have a slash wound from Michonne, but it was apparently shallow, since it didn’t affect him badly. Of course, with the area being zombie-infested, the condition of those bodies should they return to retrieve them is not going to be conducive to disproving any part of Merle’s story - and he was smart enough to blame his failure to bring back any souvenirs on the presence of a crowd of biters (though that wouldn’t explain the absence of the sword . . . ). Ahh, okay, thanks. I hadn’t thought about the zombies partaking of the fresh kill. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2012, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-06-hounded-open-spoilers/641461/166 "2012-11-22T17:57:25Z")
They sure partook the hell out of T-dog. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2012, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-06-hounded-open-spoilers/641461/167 "2012-11-22T20:57:01Z")
What was left was barely a T-dogleg. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2012, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-06-hounded-open-spoilers/641461/168 "2012-11-22T21:22:20Z")
I think they only left the “T” (maybe just a “t”). ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2012, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-06-hounded-open-spoilers/641461/169 "2012-11-22T22:48:17Z")
In the end all the people who mistakenly called him T-bone turned out to be right. ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2012, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-06-hounded-open-spoilers/641461/170 "2012-11-22T23:37:41Z")
> [@Ellis Dee](#): > > But what evidence do you have that the soldiers would be useful? The Governor, along with his “shifty-eyed psychos,” has built a paradise complete with safety, community, and hope. My evidence is that in a zombie apocalypse, anti-zombie security has to be priority #1. And a squad of well-equipped National Guardsmen would be ideal for providing that security, and have other useful attributes, such as discipline and following orders. Woodbury is nice, yes, but it would be even nicer with the sudden infusion of 7 trained soldiers. > [@Ellis Dee](#): > > The well-trained well-armed soldiers that the Governor robbed created fuck-all for themselves. After eight months they pretty much had nothing but the shirts on their backs, the military equipment they stole from the base they abandoned and a ton of ammo. As **Fubaya** noted in post #164, the squad was on the road due to the fall of their safe haven. I have to assume that a resident died of natural causes and rose as a walker, otherwise what was described seems unlikely. If you were unaware of the spontaneous reanimation, then you might describe it as the pilot did, as “someone must have gotten bitten somehow” or similar. > [@Ellis Dee](#): > > Landlines carry a small electric current on the copper wire that is sufficient to power old-timey corded phones. If the phone company doesn’t have power I doubt landlines would be generating that current. In that case, the reason I didn’t assume the phone call was a delusion was because I don’t know enough about how phones work. > [@Unauthorized Cinnamon](#): > > Anyway, I like to think that if the apocalypse does come, and I manage to carve out a small society and start rebuilding, we would come up with some process for minimizing the danger of taking on new people, while giving them a path to full “citizenship.” Like perhaps it would have been wise to encircle the soldiers as they did, but then have an unarmed negotiator approach them and offer a deal. They surrender their weapons in exchange for being let inside the walls of a peaceful, well-defended camp. They will be split up and housed with people who can handle them if they cause trouble. If they play well with others for a certain time, they can become part of the team. If not, they’re banished. Refuse the deal and you’ll be shot on sight if you come near the town. I agree, trial memberships would be the way to go. I wouldn’t ask the Guard to surrender their weapons, though, because they would almost certainly refuse, and with good reason: no one able to wield a weapon responsibly should ever be disarmed in a zombie apocalypse. If everyone is armed, that’s how you avoid mass outbreaks from a single zombie, like the pilot described. > [@obfusciatrist](#): > > Some things just require disagreeing. Like last season’s arguments over whether Shane sacrificing Otis was actually the moral thing to do and in no way made Shane a bad person. > [@The Evil Prince Zorte](#): > > The point was made about the town possibly living off of scavenged canned goods. That may well be the truth. Agriculture takes a lot of space, all of which would need to be enclosed. As a shelter, the prison isn’t as nice as the town. However it does have wide enclosed yards that can be used for crops. Bingo. Long term survival demands agriculture, and agriculture demands a lot of labor. The dispute about taking in new people, or just protecting your existing shelter, I think is down to a fundamental disagreement over priorities. If waking up alive tomorrow is the key to life, then yes, kill anyone suspicious. If waking up alive in two years is the key, then you have to have a group that can work together on large-scale projects like enclosing farmland. Otherwise, once the canned food is all gone, we all die out. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2012, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-06-hounded-open-spoilers/641461/171 "2012-11-22T23:43:16Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > In the end all the people who mistakenly called him T-bone turned out to be right. A veritable epitaph of Solomon. ---
**Author:** ![Zjestika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/8edcca/32.png) [@Zjestika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zjestika)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2012, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-06-hounded-open-spoilers/641461/172 "2012-11-23T04:29:46Z")
WRT the phones, doesn’t Hershel pick up the phone at some point and kinda give Rick the eyeball? Because wouldn’t there be a dial tone if the phone was working? That’s actually what made me start to question whether the calls were a hallucination: usually in TV there’s a big ol’ dial tone sound when someone gets hung up on. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2012, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-06-hounded-open-spoilers/641461/173 "2012-11-23T05:00:35Z")
> [@Zjestika](#): > > WRT the phones, doesn’t Hershel pick up the phone at some point and kinda give Rick the eyeball? Because wouldn’t there be a dial tone if the phone was working? That’s actually what made me start to question whether the calls were a hallucination: usually in TV there’s a big ol’ dial tone sound when someone gets hung up on. Yeah, he did. He knew Rick was hallucinating, but there was nothing he could do except let it go and hope Rick would come out of it. ---
**Author:** ![GreedySmurf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a698b9/32.png) [@GreedySmurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreedySmurf)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2012, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-06-hounded-open-spoilers/641461/174 "2012-11-23T05:47:35Z")
> [@Zjestika](#): > > WRT the phones, doesn’t Hershel pick up the phone at some point and kinda give Rick the eyeball? Because wouldn’t there be a dial tone if the phone was working? That’s actually what made me start to question whether the calls were a hallucination: usually in TV there’s a big ol’ dial tone sound when someone gets hung up on. First thing I thought of too when Herschel picked up the phone. I was waiting for the cut away to Herschel telling the rest of the group: “_Uhm, bad news everyone, our fearless leader Rick has officially lost the plot_” ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2012, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-06-hounded-open-spoilers/641461/175 "2012-11-23T08:47:13Z")
> [@brewha](#): > > Pretentious hyperbole and lame sci-fi references. I knew there was a reason I stopped posting here. :rolleyes: Great shot kid, that was one in a million! ---
**Author:** ![running\_piglet\_cheese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/22d042/32.png) [@running\_piglet\_cheese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_piglet_cheese)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-06-hounded-open-spoilers/641461/176 "2012-11-26T00:03:55Z")
[quote=“Joey\_P, post:9, topic:641461”] So I watched The Talking Dead for the first time\*. Only because when I looked over at the TV I saw Sarah Silverman. Wow, I don’t think I’ll watch that again. I’ve watched a few and I agree about the lack of content and the many commercials. However, I just discovered the Bonus Talking Dead episodes on [AMC.com](http://AMC.com) and they are great. No commercials and lots of questions and comments. Check out the one with Sarah Silverman. ---
**Author:** ![running\_piglet\_cheese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/22d042/32.png) [@running\_piglet\_cheese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_piglet_cheese)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-06-hounded-open-spoilers/641461/177 "2012-11-26T00:07:43Z")
> [@Musky\_Moon](#): > > The word “Glaggie” makes me giggle. You should keep it. > > Best part of the episode for me was Rick walking up to the fence and seeing Michonne. Imagine what was going on inside his head when he sees and breathing human just strolling along among the walkers. That was cool. Working my way through the thread. Any opinions on why walkers walked past her and then all of a sudden showed interest again? If that was already addressed, I’m sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-06-hounded-open-spoilers/641461/178 "2012-11-26T00:22:59Z")
> [@running\_piglet\_cheese](#): > > Check out the one with Sarah Silverman. Was she eating Matt Damon? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-06-hounded-open-spoilers/641461/179 "2012-11-26T00:42:55Z")
> [@running\_piglet\_cheese](#): > > Check out the one with Sarah Silverman. Which one was that? ---
**Author:** ![running\_piglet\_cheese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/22d042/32.png) [@running\_piglet\_cheese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_piglet_cheese)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-06-hounded-open-spoilers/641461/180 "2012-11-26T05:10:41Z")
That was Bonus Episode 3x6, the episode we’re discussing here. My 2 cents on Nat’l Guard. If it were any “normal” group like Rick’s I believe they would welcome the Guard with open arms for their expertise and weaponry. They would be excellent sources of training your people as well. Woodbury, however, has the Governor in charge and he’s just not all there. His only desire is to remain in control and silence all opposition. He knew the Guard would not have agreed to have him order them around. He is after all only a civilian and they would know better how to protect and structure the group for the best chance of survival. As far as Michonne goes, his paranoia was at least true about her. She’s already killed 3 of his soldiers so who knows what she might do next? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-06-hounded-open-spoilers/641461.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-06-hounded-open-spoilers/641461.md?page=10)