# The Walking Dead; 3.09 "The Suicide King" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 10, 2013, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-09-the-suicide-king-open-spoilers/649915 "2013-02-10T23:12:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Dante](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dante/32/9673_2.png) [@Dante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-09-the-suicide-king-open-spoilers/649915/81 "2013-02-13T18:52:41Z")
Did they explain why Maggie would shoot a zombie in the head instead of The Governor? I mean, you’ve got a high powered rifle with a scope and the ability to make a head shot on a moving target. Do you shoot: A. One of the zombies that are being used to menace one of your group. B. The man who leads the entire town that may be a threat to you. And who stripped you nekked. And had your boyfriend beaten. C. First B, then A. Also, how do three zombies sneak up on someone in broad daylight in the middle of a boulevard? ---
**Author:** ![Furious\_Marmot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dfb087/32.png) [@Furious\_Marmot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Furious_Marmot)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-09-the-suicide-king-open-spoilers/649915/82 "2013-02-13T19:06:37Z")
> [@Dante](#): > > Also, how do three zombies sneak up on someone in broad daylight in the middle of a boulevard? Those were some smart zombies. They snuck in while everyone was running around in the dark, laid low until the following day, waited until the entire town was gathered at the gate, then sprang their ambush from behind. Did anyone else think the extras during the Merle/Daryl fight looked amateurish and stagey? “Everybody shake your fist and grimace!” ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-09-the-suicide-king-open-spoilers/649915/83 "2013-02-13T19:32:44Z")
Watermelon! Watermelon! Watermelon! WATERMELON! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-09-the-suicide-king-open-spoilers/649915/84 "2013-02-13T21:03:15Z")
> [@Furious\_Marmot](#): > > Those were some smart zombies. They snuck in while everyone was running around in the dark, laid low until the following day, waited until the entire town was gathered at the gate, then sprang their ambush from behind. I vaguely remember something about a curfew at night. ---
**Author:** ![LurkerInNJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ed655f/32.png) [@LurkerInNJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkerInNJ)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-09-the-suicide-king-open-spoilers/649915/85 "2013-02-13T21:15:31Z")
> [@Dante](#): > > Also, how do three zombies sneak up on someone in broad daylight in the middle of a boulevard? People were distracted and accustomed to being in a zombie-free enclave, so their guard was down. ---
**Author:** ![Furious\_Marmot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dfb087/32.png) [@Furious\_Marmot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Furious_Marmot)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-09-the-suicide-king-open-spoilers/649915/86 "2013-02-13T21:18:44Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I vaguely remember something about a curfew at night. Yes, but recall that the zombies found the hole Merle made almost immediately after our protagonists skedaddled. The whole town, or at least a lot of it, was running around higgledy-piggledy after being attacked twice within a maybe an hour. Even if everybody cleared out of the arena and went straight indoors after the shooting stopped, the zombies must have been hidden for at least part of the morning while they were packing their crap and forming an unruly mob at the gate. ---
**Author:** ![AngelSoft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelsoft/32/440_2.png) [@AngelSoft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelSoft)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-09-the-suicide-king-open-spoilers/649915/87 "2013-02-13T22:02:52Z")
> [@Dante](#): > > Did they explain why Maggie would shoot a zombie in the head instead of The Governor? I mean, you’ve got a high powered rifle with a scope and the ability to make a head shot on a moving target. Do you shoot: > > A. One of the zombies that are being used to menace one of your group. > B. The man who leads the entire town that may be a threat to you. And who stripped you nekked. And had your boyfriend beaten. > C. First B, then A. > > Also, how do three zombies sneak up on someone in broad daylight in the middle of a boulevard? Pretty sure she shot the ‘sniper’ girl that was training Andrea earlier on. Edit: Oh wait…she shot a zombie first, I remember. But yeah I think it was Maggie who shot that girl too. Which didn’t make much sense. ---
**Author:** ![Furious\_Marmot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dfb087/32.png) [@Furious\_Marmot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Furious_Marmot)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-09-the-suicide-king-open-spoilers/649915/88 "2013-02-13T22:18:15Z")
> [@AngelSoft](#): > > Pretty sure she shot the ‘sniper’ girl that was training Andrea earlier on. > > Edit: Oh wait…she shot a zombie first, I remember. But yeah I think it was Maggie who shot that girl too. Which didn’t make much sense. Maggie was serving a higher purpose: plot. The sniper girl had to go for narrative purposes. She was the only town guard who had any character development. Because she’s ever so slightly more real, her death is a little bit more impactful than the half-dozen or so nameless guys who also bit it. It also helps to further establish that our protagonists sometimes find themselves in morally murky circumstances in which they kill people who have not done anything wrong. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-09-the-suicide-king-open-spoilers/649915/89 "2013-02-14T00:52:27Z")
I wish we had gotten to see what Merle’s “play along little brother” was going to lead to. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-09-the-suicide-king-open-spoilers/649915/90 "2013-02-14T01:00:15Z")
I was wondering why Sarah Wayne Callies was still in the credits when T-Dogg’s actor wasn’t, but didn’t count on wacked out Rick hallucinating her. I just thought maybe she had one of those show business deals that meant they had to keep her in there regardless for the rest of the season. Regarding Talking Dead, good gracious Kevin Smith… Buy some pants if you’re gonna be on TV, dude. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-09-the-suicide-king-open-spoilers/649915/91 "2013-02-14T01:06:05Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > I wish we had gotten to see what Merle’s “play along little brother” was going to lead to. Before Rick showed up I was wondering if Merle would throw the fight so Daryl would win/live. It would’ve redeemed his character somewhat (though one wonders what the Governor would’ve done with the survivor). ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-09-the-suicide-king-open-spoilers/649915/92 "2013-02-14T01:32:05Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > I wish we had gotten to see what Merle’s “play along little brother” was going to lead to. I thought he was going to lull the observers into a false sense of security and then fight a way out with his brother. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-09-the-suicide-king-open-spoilers/649915/93 "2013-02-14T01:32:45Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > Regarding Talking Dead, good gracious Kevin Smith… Buy some pants if you’re gonna be on TV, dude. Heh, the way he was dressed on Talking Dead is pretty much the way he dresses all the time no matter what the occasion. Hockey jersey and jean shorts. Sometimes a long overcoat. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-09-the-suicide-king-open-spoilers/649915/94 "2013-02-14T01:43:20Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > Heh, the way he was dressed on Talking Dead is pretty much the way he dresses all the time no matter what the occasion. Hockey jersey and jean shorts. Sometimes a long overcoat. I know that, but it doesn’t make him any less terrible to see sitting there with his legs pulled up on the couch and a pillow in his lap. At least he actually WASN’T wearing a hockey jersey this time, so maybe there’s some hope. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2013, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-09-the-suicide-king-open-spoilers/649915/95 "2013-02-14T02:00:28Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > I know that, but it doesn’t make him any less terrible to see sitting there with his legs pulled up on the couch and a pillow in his lap. At least he actually WASN’T wearing a hockey jersey this time, so maybe there’s some hope. I doubt it. ---
**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2013, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-09-the-suicide-king-open-spoilers/649915/96 "2013-02-17T10:01:44Z")
> [@LurkerInNJ](#): > > Seriously? Norman Reedus is a former model … Prada, etc. He cleans up pretty good. Good enough for Helena Christiansen for a few years, anyway. [Pic.](http://www.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=http://img2.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/d/s/ds8tz8peyuk5d58y.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.fanpix.net/1748757/014911902/helena-christensen-and-norman-reedus-picture.html&h=508&w=382&sz=37&tbnid=wv7P1qusQ5HkFM:&tbnh=98&tbnw=74&zoom=1&usg=__YYxE7XJVgudP_clI4-YYwi7pJlM=&docid=f1hCGxXKm9CyWM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=KKogUbD3I4W2hAe04YGIBw&ved=0CDcQ9QEwAw&dur=2459) ---
**Author:** ![limegreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/82dd89/32.png) [@limegreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/limegreen)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2013, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-09-the-suicide-king-open-spoilers/649915/97 "2013-02-17T17:54:58Z")
> [@bouv](#): > > Glenn was beaten to within an inch of his life, and Merle tried to kill him with a walker. I spent several minutes staring at this and trying to remember when Merle had hit him with a walker, then it dawned on me…zombie. I’ve been spending too much time with my elderly mother, and maneuvering around her walker. The metal kind. :smack: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-09-the-suicide-king-open-spoilers/649915.md?page=4)