# The Walking Dead; 3.10 "Home" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 18, 2013, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-10-home-open-spoilers/650651 "2013-02-18T01:33:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Mavic\_Chen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e56c9b/32.png) [@Mavic\_Chen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mavic_Chen)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-10-home-open-spoilers/650651/101 "2013-02-20T17:44:52Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > They sure heard the van long before it broke through the gate. So fighting zombies: everyone is a perfect shot nailing head shots every time usually on the run, but get into a shoot out and suddenly nobody can hit the side of a barn. Have only just seen the episode so a little behind with the conversation, sorry! This was exactly my thought with the A-Team shoot out as well. Perfect head shots all the time every time, then shockingly bad aim when it counts. Plus I would have expected Rick to be a better shot what with being a policeman and all. > [@AngelSoft](#): > > I agree. When Michonne was first introduced, I was worried they were going to keep that part from the comics. While what happened to Maggie wasn’t as bad as rape, it still made me very uncomfortable watching it. There’s no way I could sit through and watch what he does to Michonne in the comics. When we were watching Talking Dead, my mom kept asking me what happened to her and I just couldn’t tell her. No way I want to explain everything that happened to my mom. Please spoiler it for me, what happened to Michonne in the comics? ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-10-home-open-spoilers/650651/102 "2013-02-20T17:55:44Z")
> [@thinksnow](#): > > I would almost bet that the Gov conducted the light assault specifically to incite a retaliation. The prison folks attach Woodbury again, which has beefed up it’s guards quite a bit, and he gets to say, “See, I told you they were dangerous and had it out for us!” But does it make any sense for our heroes to retaliate for the sake of retaliation? ---
**Author:** ![sparky\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@sparky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sparky_1)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-10-home-open-spoilers/650651/103 "2013-02-20T17:59:16Z")
Let me just say that my two favorite shows, Archer and The Walking Dead, are seriously letting me down. I thought Home was just a weak episode and not one I’ll be watching again any time soon. ---
**Author:** ![AngelSoft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelsoft/32/440_2.png) [@AngelSoft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelSoft)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-10-home-open-spoilers/650651/104 "2013-02-20T18:13:34Z")
> [@Mavic\_Chen](#): > > Please spoiler it for me, what happened to Michonne in the comics? Can’t remember what the rules are for comic spoilers here so I’ll go ahead and spoiler box it. It basically boils down to a lot of very brutal rape and torture at the hands of the Governor. There was some pretty intense images in the comic but, if I remember correctly, the actual torture/rape is never shown. Still, it was very intense and disturbing and no way they could have shown it on tv. At least not without losing a lot of viewers. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-10-home-open-spoilers/650651/105 "2013-02-20T18:15:35Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Let me guess: He made her read _War and Peace_… aloud! Fiendish! ---
**Author:** ![stegon66](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee59a6/32.png) [@stegon66](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stegon66)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-10-home-open-spoilers/650651/106 "2013-02-20T18:55:37Z")
> [@](#): > > Have only just seen the episode so a little behind with the conversation, sorry! This was exactly my thought with the A-Team shoot out as well. Perfect head shots all the time every time, then shockingly bad aim when it counts. Plus I would have expected Rick to be a better shot what with being a policeman and all. I would think that’s what an actual shootout would be like. Scrambling for some kind of cover (Rick had very little) and taking a shot when you can. Shooting zeds is something else: they don’t shoot back and don’t have the sense to dive for cover. They’re easy pickings. Not so with armed enemies. ---
**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-10-home-open-spoilers/650651/107 "2013-02-20T19:23:46Z")
> [@stegon66](#): > > I would think that’s what an actual shootout would be like. Scrambling for some kind of cover (Rick had very little) and taking a shot when you can. Shooting zeds is something else: they don’t shoot back and don’t have the sense to dive for cover. They’re easy pickings. Not so with armed enemies. Exactly. I am very surprised to see people complaining about it. Other shootouts in the show have been awful. The ambush of the military group by the Governor and his militia was very silly, for instance. A bunch of trained military guys all die nearly instantly with no casualties in response simply because the plot required it. Rick and the group rescuing the brothers Dixon from Woodbury involved a few headshots and was very poorly written. Again, the violence was almost comically used as a plot device. Just enough shots were fired, and unimportant people killed to drive the story forward and get our heroes where they needed to be. This was different. It was realistic, or at least attempted to be. People on both sides acted rationally, with the exception maybe of the Governor, who is crazy. Everyone else fought bravely but clearly wanted to live and most people took cover. Sure we have some silliness such as the bulletproof body protecting someone from dozens of rounds. But it’s a zombie show so I expect stuff like that. You know the special effects guy had fun rigging that up. ---
**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-10-home-open-spoilers/650651/108 "2013-02-20T20:22:58Z")
Axel was starting to get a little sweet on Carol and his dead body ended up saving her life. Awwwww. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-10-home-open-spoilers/650651/109 "2013-02-20T20:32:57Z")
> [@Soylent\_Juicy](#): > > Axel was starting to get a little sweet on Carol and his dead body ended up saving her life. Awwwww. I still thing he was in prison for rape rather than armed robbery. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mavic\_Chen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e56c9b/32.png) [@Mavic\_Chen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mavic_Chen)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-10-home-open-spoilers/650651/110 "2013-02-20T21:08:08Z")
> [@Debaser](#): > > …Sure we have some silliness such as the bulletproof body protecting someone from dozens of rounds. But it’s a zombie show so I expect stuff like that. You know the special effects guy had fun rigging that up… Plus some of the zombie smushing action on the bridge when the car family got saved was satisfyingly gory, bet they had fun with that as well. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-10-home-open-spoilers/650651/111 "2013-02-20T22:34:08Z")
Wasn’t Axel wearing some kind of Kevlar-ish vest, as was Carl? ---
**Author:** ![whole\_bean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@whole\_bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whole_bean)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-10-home-open-spoilers/650651/112 "2013-02-20T22:40:01Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > Didn’t Axel and the black prisoner bury some of their guys who died? I don’t think so. How many prisoners were there? Axel just got killed. Rick fed (or thought he fed) one of them to the zombies. Didn’t two mutiny (so why would they get a proper burial)? Anyone know the answer to this? ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Just\_Ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Ed)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-10-home-open-spoilers/650651/113 "2013-02-20T23:14:08Z")
> [@whole\_bean](#): > > Anyone know the answer to this? The three graves were for T-Dog, Lori, and Carol. Remember at the time they hadn’t found Carol and believed her dead (and Daryl places a [cherokee rose](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee_Rose_%28The_Walking_Dead%29) on the grave). They made the prisoners dig the graves, and yes, I suppose two of the three were empty (or maybe they buried some specific mementos for Lori and Carol). ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-10-home-open-spoilers/650651/114 "2013-02-20T23:42:23Z")
> [@Mavic\_Chen](#): > > Plus I would have expected Rick to be a better shot what with being a policeman and all. In my experience, cops that aren’t hobbyist shooters (so maybe 80% of them) are awful shots. You’d be amazed at how many cops just get by with the minimum possible skill needed to pass the very basic qualifications to carry their guns. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-10-home-open-spoilers/650651/115 "2013-02-20T23:44:52Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > In my experience, cops that aren’t hobbyist shooters (so maybe 80% of them) are awful shots. You’d be amazed at how many cops just get by with the minimum possible skill needed to pass the very basic qualifications to carry their guns. Plus most cops never actually use their firearms outside of the shooting range. ---
**Author:** ![whole\_bean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@whole\_bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whole_bean)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-10-home-open-spoilers/650651/116 "2013-02-20T23:45:43Z")
> [@Just\_Ed](#): > > The three graves were for T-Dog, Lori, and Carol. Remember at the time they hadn’t found Carol and believed her dead (and Daryl places a [cherokee rose](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee_Rose_%28The_Walking_Dead%29) on the grave). They made the prisoners dig the graves, and yes, I suppose two of the three were empty (or maybe they buried some specific mementos for Lori and Carol). That’s what I thought. Fucking dumb. If I recall, they were dragging ass doing it out in the heat, too. Why dig full-length graves unless you’re burying a body? Even these tent-sleeping-in-a-zombie-apocalypse lower-Glenn-down-the-well dipshits wouldn’t do that. Dumb, dumb, dumb. At least they’re consistent in the dumb (this time). Such a fucking disappointment, this show. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-10-home-open-spoilers/650651/117 "2013-02-20T23:47:48Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Most cops never actually use their firearms outside of the shooting rang. I know, but you’d think they’d want to be good at it since their lives may depend on it. ---
**Author:** ![MeanJoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanjoe/32/5693_2.png) [@MeanJoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanJoe)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-10-home-open-spoilers/650651/118 "2013-02-21T14:40:37Z")
> [@Debaser](#): > > There are a lot of possibilities here. Lots of people are right handed but left eye dominant. If this is detected early, the usual advice is to shoot left handed. But lots of people end up shooting right handed, but with their left eye aiming. This obviously won’t work with a scoped rifle, but it would work with a handgun or anything else. To date in the show, The Governor has shot right handed and aimed with his right eye. Since losing his eye, his aiming has also been from his right eye. I wasn’t saying one cannot shoot right handed and use their left eye aiming - I’m saying The Governor is not one of those people and continues after being blinded to aim with his right (non-existant) eye. > [@](#): > > Plus, the governor didn’t snipe during the shootout that I can recall. He had a sniper back at his truck firing aimed shots. He was just laying down grazing fire. He was having a great time just spraying fully automatic fire to keep everyone’s heads down. I don’t think he was actually trying to hit anyone specifically. [The Governor aiming with his right/blind eye through a scope during the shootout.](https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/179666_338798112886841_799922646_n.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-10-home-open-spoilers/650651/119 "2013-02-21T15:40:34Z")
> [@MeanJoe](#): > > To date in the show, The Governor has shot right handed and aimed with his right eye. Since losing his eye, his aiming has also been from his right eye. I wasn’t saying one cannot shoot right handed and use their left eye aiming - I’m saying The Governor is not one of those people and continues after being blinded to aim with his right (non-existant) eye. You’ve been paying attention. That pic says it all. I can’t believe that they would be so stupid. The bad writing knows no bounds. ---
**Author:** ![shiftless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@shiftless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shiftless)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2013, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-10-home-open-spoilers/650651/120 "2013-02-21T17:02:02Z")
> [@Debaser](#): > > You’ve been paying attention. > > That pic says it all. I can’t believe that they would be so stupid. The bad writing knows no bounds. That explains why he can’t hit anything. Maybe that’s bad directing though. I agree the writing is pretty bad sometimes. One thing about this show that continues to disappoint me is that the characters keep doing the same stupid stuff that nobody who has ever seen a horror movie would ever do: splitting up, wondering around alone in the dark, turning your back on “empty” doorways. And the gunfight scenes are usually terrible too but that is true of most shows so I’m not sure that directors even know their gunfights are silly. A great show when they stick to dealing with the hardships of the end of the world. Not so great when they slip into tired old shoot-em-ups and handwringing about love lives. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-10-home-open-spoilers/650651.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-10-home-open-spoilers/650651.md?page=7)