# The Walking Dead; 3.11 "I Ain't Judas" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 25, 2013, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-11-i-aint-judas-open-spoilers/651306 "2013-02-25T01:52:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2013, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-11-i-aint-judas-open-spoilers/651306/121 "2013-03-01T00:36:23Z")
Doesn’t have to be Hershel’s farm; _any_ farm would work. And instead of fencing I’d go for a moat. If you consider that you have nothing better to do – literally – than establish a safe home, then you could spend a summer and really do it up right. Find a backhoe to dig a serious moat, like ten feet deep. No water needed, as long as it’s steep enough. Find a library and learn all you can about wind/water power. Set up windmills and a waterwheel if you can find a decent enough river. (Make this be your prime criterion when choosing a farm.) Spend some time finding some serious weaponry. Fortify your farmstead. Get some animals, plant some crops. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2013, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-11-i-aint-judas-open-spoilers/651306/122 "2013-03-01T00:57:48Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > …Spend some time finding some serious weaponry. Fortify your farmstead. Get some animals, plant some crops. Finding livestock is going to be pretty hard at this point. We’re now a year into the zombie apocalypse; any livestock from abandoned farms is either dead or gone feral. Mostly dead. Getting livestock from non-abandoned farms poses another set of challenges. Which raises the question; where is Woodbury getting it’s food from? Is it all in-town gardens and scavenged from supermarkets, or do they have some kind of farm setup? The latter would make much more sense, but there’s been no hint that it’s the case. Daily life in Woodbury is still a mystery. ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2013, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-11-i-aint-judas-open-spoilers/651306/123 "2013-03-01T02:35:56Z")
> [@BeeDubU2](#): > > I don’t get those who are questioning why they aren’t clearing the main yard. They are actively watching for another ambush. Hanging outside to eliminate those zombies isn’t feasible until the Woodbury threat is contained. Fine (though not really real world sensible since a single person could clear that yard safely in an hour based on the established zombie behavior we’ve seen to date), except that when clearing the yard was mentioned they didn’t say it was too risky to have somewhat give up their quiet chat inside the cell block while everybody else kept watch but rather that it would waste too many bullets. Clearing the yard wouldn’t require a single bullet. Of course, if they’d been making a practice of killing all the zombies near the fence every morning they wouldn’t have ended up with a hundred zombies int he yard the moment the fence was compromised. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2013, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-11-i-aint-judas-open-spoilers/651306/124 "2013-03-01T02:47:19Z")
Maybe the combination is the answer. They can’t go out in the open and melee the walkers for fear of being taken out by a sniper, and they don’t have enough ammo to clear them out safely from cover. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2013, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-11-i-aint-judas-open-spoilers/651306/125 "2013-03-01T13:37:57Z")
The zombies are also a defense against a ground attack. I could be wrong, but I don’t think Woodbury has enough vehicles to transport everybody. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2013, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-11-i-aint-judas-open-spoilers/651306/126 "2013-03-01T13:55:06Z")
Does gasoline go bad in the comic? ---
**Author:** ![Courk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/91b2a8/32.png) [@Courk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Courk)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2013, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-11-i-aint-judas-open-spoilers/651306/127 "2013-03-01T14:07:25Z")
Not really related to this episode specifically, but thinking about the timeline made me realize that Carol went missing the day Judith was born, and was found the day they left for Woodbury. Later that day they tell Tyrese’s group that Judith is about a week old. So Carol was missing for 6 or 7 days? How is she alive? What’s the longest anyone’s survived without water? I know the general rule is 3 days. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2013, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-11-i-aint-judas-open-spoilers/651306/128 "2013-03-01T14:59:20Z")
The most frustrating thing about a Carol-Daryl relationship is there’s no real good collective name that works when spoken. Caryl or Darol work fine when written, but spoken it just sounds like Carol or Daryl only with a slight regional accent. I love Norman Reedus on the Time Warner Cable commercial, btw. “Daryl don’t shoot that thing in the house!” “Yes ma’am.” ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2013, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-11-i-aint-judas-open-spoilers/651306/129 "2013-03-01T15:14:21Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > The most frustrating thing about a Carol-Daryl relationship is there’s no real good collective name that works when spoken. Thank freaking god. I’d be happy if no one was ever able to come up with one of those vile portmanteaux. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2013, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-11-i-aint-judas-open-spoilers/651306/130 "2013-03-01T15:25:48Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Thank freaking god. I’d be happy if no one was ever able to come up with one of those vile portmanteaux. Hear, hear! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ministryman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@ministryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ministryman)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2013, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-11-i-aint-judas-open-spoilers/651306/131 "2013-03-01T15:40:25Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Hear, hear! > 🙂 Dixol? (Dicks Hole)? ---
**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2013, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-11-i-aint-judas-open-spoilers/651306/132 "2013-03-01T20:57:24Z")
Care-Dare. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2013, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-11-i-aint-judas-open-spoilers/651306/133 "2013-03-01T21:01:13Z")
Dual ass kicker. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2013, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-11-i-aint-judas-open-spoilers/651306/134 "2013-03-01T21:18:46Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > The most frustrating thing about a Carol-Daryl relationship is there’s no real good collective name that works when spoken. I think you meant the best part. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2013, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-11-i-aint-judas-open-spoilers/651306/135 "2013-03-03T02:26:37Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > “Welcome to Costco. I love brains.” I like brains. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2013, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-11-i-aint-judas-open-spoilers/651306/136 "2013-03-03T03:37:57Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > I like brains. They’ve got electrolytes. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-11-i-aint-judas-open-spoilers/651306.md?page=6)