# The Walking Dead; 3.14 "Prey" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 18, 2013, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-14-prey-open-spoilers/653212 "2013-03-18T00:24:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-14-prey-open-spoilers/653212/81 "2013-03-19T17:37:02Z")
> [@oft\_wears\_hats](#): > > Now they’re blatantly letting the marketing drive the content. There is no program on television that doesn’t, to one degree or another. [ETA: Usually a stronger one than most viewers are willing to recognize.] The only slight exception is material that is produced as commodity (instead of content) and sold on the ad-free (or at least ad-uninterrupted) channels. If it’s ad-supported, it’s marketing-driven, no matter how many Emmys it collects. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-14-prey-open-spoilers/653212/82 "2013-03-19T18:28:08Z")
Can someone explain something to me that I missed? Who is this Donna person that Tyreese and the guy from his group was talking about? ---
**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-14-prey-open-spoilers/653212/83 "2013-03-19T18:31:29Z")
> [@NitroPress](#): > > There is no program on television that doesn’t, to one degree or another. [ETA: Usually a stronger one than most viewers are willing to recognize.] The only slight exception is material that is produced as commodity (instead of content) and sold on the ad-free (or at least ad-uninterrupted) channels. > > If it’s ad-supported, it’s marketing-driven, no matter how many Emmys it collects. Yes, but it’s usually a bit more subtle. There’s a difference between a show that has some low-key product placement and runs ads targeted at its expected audience, and a show that is running sponsored contests, shoehorning in music just to sell soundtracks, and releasing a slew of quick-turn facebook and mobile apps. AMC didn’t have NyQuil sponsor a “Make Your Own Meth” contest for Breaking Bad, or a “meth yourself” app for mobile devices that would doctor photos to make the subject look like a meth head. I get that all ad-supported shows are driven by marketing in some way or another, but it’s the extreme degree to which Walking Dead is being written by the marketing team that I find distasteful. ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-14-prey-open-spoilers/653212/84 "2013-03-19T18:43:13Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > Can someone explain something to me that I missed? Who is this Donna person that Tyreese and the guy from his group was talking about? When we first met Tyreese’s group, they were running the the forest. A white female member of their group was bitten, and was killed upon turning, and buried at the prison. This was Donna, wife of Allen and mother of Ben, the other two members of the Tyreese/Sasha group. [Picture.](http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Walking+dead+Donna&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.43828540,d.dmQ&biw=1280&bih=875&wrapid=tlif136371860848610&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=1rFIUZb7NNap4APYp4H4Bg#imgrc=kIB4nzzgFt3DIM%3A%3BDJ4yT4zbMwOACM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fimages.wikia.com%252Fwalkingdead%252Fimages%252F7%252F7a%252FDonna2.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwalkingdead.wikia.com%252Fwiki%252FFile%253ADonna2.jpg%3B548%3B786) ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-14-prey-open-spoilers/653212/85 "2013-03-19T19:03:50Z")
I’m actually surprised there’s not more product placement on the show. Whenever they visit an abanded supermarket/pharmacy/gas station/etc it’s a generic mom & pop. We never get a close look at any of the labels on food or liquor they find. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-14-prey-open-spoilers/653212/86 "2013-03-19T19:16:52Z")
> [@oft\_wears\_hats](#): > > Yes, but it’s usually a bit more subtle. I’d disagree. The issue goes beyond product placement and promotion of the show. But no need to hijack the show discussion down that road. All I can say is that I’m thrilled to throw $2 an ep at Vudu to watch shows without a single second of ads of any kind, not even blurbs for Talking Dead or how wonderful AMC is. Why anyone throws (effectively) that much or more at cable to be pounded silly by ads, even in the on-demand mode, mystifies me. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-14-prey-open-spoilers/653212/87 "2013-03-19T19:19:37Z")
> [@NitroPress](#): > > Why anyone throws (effectively) that much or more at cable to be pounded silly by ads, even in the on-demand mode, mystifies me. DVRs. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-14-prey-open-spoilers/653212/88 "2013-03-19T19:56:33Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > DVRs. 🙂 We’ve had other discussions on this recently. The ad content, placement, timing and randomness mean that you get significant exposure even while zipping… and with a DVR, you’re paying additional for the privilege.\* No different from things like on-demand replay. \*Not to mention that you’re paying around 50% more in electrical costs to keep the DVR box juiced, over a non-recording cable box. It’s a significant amount. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-14-prey-open-spoilers/653212/89 "2013-03-19T20:00:21Z")
> [@NitroPress](#): > > We’ve had other discussions on this recently. The ad content, placement, timing and randomness mean that you get significant exposure even while zipping… and with a DVR, you’re paying additional for the privilege.\* No different from things like on-demand replay. > \*Not to mention that you’re paying around 50% more in electrical costs to keep the DVR box juiced, over a non-recording cable box. It’s a significant amount. Yes, but I edit out the commercials and burn them to DVD, so that I can put the episodes in a drawer and never watch them again. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-14-prey-open-spoilers/653212/90 "2013-03-19T20:19:43Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Yes, but I edit out the commercials and burn them to DVD, so that I can put the episodes in a drawer and never watch them again. Ah. You’re ahead of the game, then. 🙂 (I assembled a meticulously edited set of all five \*Babylon 5 \*seasons on VHS, but we did watch it twice through before the DVDs came out, and then I gave the set to a penurious fan who was delighted to have them…) ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-14-prey-open-spoilers/653212/91 "2013-03-19T20:31:37Z")
> [@NitroPress](#): > > Ah. You’re ahead of the game, then. 🙂 > > (I assembled a meticulously edited set of all five \*Babylon 5 \*seasons on VHS, but we did watch it twice through before the DVDs came out, and then I gave the set to a penurious fan who was delighted to have them…) I did it to all of Battlestar Galactica, and tossed them when I saw the finale. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-14-prey-open-spoilers/653212/92 "2013-03-19T20:42:04Z")
> [@coolbyrne](#): > > no one seeing the Governor coming back and dumping Andrea into the dentist chair (how DID he sedate her?); That doesn’t take an excess of fan-wanking - [ul] [li]choke her out[/li][li]hog-tie and gag her[/li][li]haul her back to the trunk[/li][li]No one is searching his truck, she can be on the floor on the passenger side[/li][li]The torture chamber is in some big, presumably unoccupied building. Not to hard to believe it has a garage door and that it is where the Gov stores his private truck.[/li][/ul] ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2013, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-14-prey-open-spoilers/653212/93 "2013-03-19T21:17:17Z")
[quote=“Folacin, post:92, topic:653212”] That doesn’t take an excess of fan-wanking - [ul] [li]hog-tie and gag her[/li][/quote] [/ul] …all of which no doubt precipitated a lot of fan wanking. ---
**Author:** ![stegon66](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee59a6/32.png) [@stegon66](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stegon66)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-14-prey-open-spoilers/653212/94 "2013-03-20T00:04:21Z")
According to Rolling Stone, 27 characters will die in the season finale. Assuming most of those will be very minor characters that still leaves a good chunk of the major cast. Should we start a death pool? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-14-prey-open-spoilers/653212/95 "2013-03-20T00:24:27Z")
> [@stegon66](#): > > According to Rolling Stone, 27 characters will die in the season finale. Assuming most of those will be very minor characters that still leaves a good chunk of the major cast. Shootout between the prison and Durwood or Morningwood or Elderberry or whatever the town is named. How unexpected. Dead will include Herschel, Carol, Merle, Philip/Governor, Santiago (Governor’s second), the annoying white guy who came with Tyrese, Tyrese’s woman, and 20 no-name townspeople. Oh, and Lori. The geek will end up in charge of the town, with Tyrese as his lieutenant, probably after being the one to kill the Governor. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-14-prey-open-spoilers/653212/96 "2013-03-20T00:30:20Z")
No, wait, the Governor will be offed by a walker who is a risen townie. Maybe the geek, and Tyrese will become the town leader. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-14-prey-open-spoilers/653212/97 "2013-03-20T00:53:02Z")
> [@stegon66](#): > > According to Rolling Stone, 27 characters will die in the season finale. Assuming most of those will be very minor characters that still leaves a good chunk of the major cast. Should we start a death pool? 😃 I’m curious how _Rolling Stone_ knows that. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![stegon66](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee59a6/32.png) [@stegon66](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stegon66)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-14-prey-open-spoilers/653212/98 "2013-03-20T01:26:12Z")
Me too. No surprise really, given that the ending to the Woodbury arc in the books was such a slaughter. Still, there are enough differences between the books and the show to surprise us. Either way I’m sure Beth is toast. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-14-prey-open-spoilers/653212/99 "2013-03-20T02:50:11Z")
> [@stegon66](#): > > Me too. > > No surprise really, given that the ending to the Woodbury arc in the books was such a slaughter. Still, there are enough differences between the books and the show to surprise us. > > Either way I’m sure Beth is toast. ☹ Why? ---
**Author:** ![emarkp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3be4f8/32.png) [@emarkp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emarkp)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-14-prey-open-spoilers/653212/100 "2013-03-20T05:18:37Z")
> [@oft\_wears\_hats](#): > > Yes, but it’s usually a bit more subtle. You must have missed Heroes and Chuck. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-14-prey-open-spoilers/653212.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-3-14-prey-open-spoilers/653212.md?page=6)