# The Walking Dead; 4.04 "Indifference" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 4, 2013, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-04-indifference-open-spoilers/673018 "2013-11-04T01:09:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-04-indifference-open-spoilers/673018/101 "2013-11-07T05:31:34Z")
> [@emarkp](#): > > Your city doesn’t have a city council? Yeah, but it sounds lame in this situation. Too formal maybe. Comic books are exaggerated that way and I keep forgetting this is a comic book adaptation. Okay, chick with a sword, guy with a crossbow, cowboy sheriff - alright. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-04-indifference-open-spoilers/673018/102 "2013-11-07T05:50:09Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > One element I think should have been included is when Daryl angrily confronts D’Angelo about the alcohol, he should have thrown in some racial slurs. I mean, Daryl _was_ a white supremacist at some point, wasn’t he? And to show that his anger was genuine, I can imagine him calling D’Angelo a “stupid drunk nigger”, even with Tyree and Michonne within earshot. If anything, Daryl’s reaction was far too mild under the circumstances, and if the drama in this show is to be character conflict and not zombie-killing, let’s throw some _meat_ in there. I don’t see Daryl saying anything like that now. We have seen him change after he was away from Merle’s influence. When he and Merle were on their own after Woodbury, Merle called Glen that Chinese boy and Daryl told him that he is Korean. I get the feeling that Daryl never really was like Merle, he was just trying to be accepted by his older brother by going along with the things he did. ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-04-indifference-open-spoilers/673018/103 "2013-11-07T05:52:52Z")
It did bug me that when hunting Michonne in the woods Merle did not throw out one racial slur. ---
**Author:** ![Algernon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@Algernon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algernon)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-04-indifference-open-spoilers/673018/104 "2013-11-07T14:46:08Z")
> [@shiftless](#): > > I’m so tired of the whole story being driven by the terrible, stupid choices that Rick makes. Ditto. While I generally like the show, there are a lot of problems with the writing over the seasons. Rick’s character in particular makes me cringe, though it was worse when there was both Rick AND Lori. I hate that he is the main character, but I get around that by fast-forwarding through scenes with Rick (unless Carol, Daryl, or Michonne are in the scene too). ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-04-indifference-open-spoilers/673018/105 "2013-11-07T14:49:24Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > The lamest thing was having something called “the council.” What, is this Planet of the Apes? “Let’s go ask the Council of Elders.” I prefer it to just be a meeting once in awhile, so it seems less lame. It is a bit clunky and overly formal, but there aren’t a lot of better choices. The board? The congress? The elders? The nobles? The chosen? Parliament? The elect? The leaders? The [thing](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thing_(assembly))? > [@levdrakon](#): > > Now that I’ve said that, they’ll probably have the council convene a tribunal to decide Rick and/or Carol’s fate. Possibly, but I’m of the mind that Rick’s going to either claim that Carol left on her own, or that she was killed. The truth will come out later, of course, but Rick has to know that telling everyone that he solved the murders, and decided on his own to exile the killer, will satisfy no one, and land him in hot water. > [@grude](#): > > And what was up with the dead hippy chick? Her leg looked cut off, like a clean wound. Then she was being eaten across the street, zombies dismember and drag people now? Why didn’t they hear a shot? She didn’t even try to shoot the zombies? Well, she did say her leg hadn’t healed right, maybe it was barely attached and come off when grabbed, like a lizard’s tail. 😉 > [@grude](#): > > That whole scenario made no sense, and Rick had the NERVE to act like Carol was cold when he left that backpacker to die. Right, the writers weren’t on the same page on that one. Unless Rick was supposed to have turned over a new leaf by becoming a farmer, and recommitting himself to compassion for other survivors. He did start out that way, insisting on rescuing Randle from impalement on the fence, for instance. > [@grude](#): > > Rick is insane to abandon all these chances to add single young healthy adults to his community, there is little risk adding people one or two at a time. My fondest wish is that the group bumps into an emerging society that has its shit together: a stable and competent government, an open-arms policy for anyone willing to work and obey a simple code of conduct, and pro-actively efforts to keep their area walker-free. They could even wear anti-zombie attire, instead of always going around with bare arms and thin fabric that’s easily bitten through. I want the survivors that we’ve been unfortunate enough to be stuck following to be positively _shamed_ at how badly they’ve bungled things. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-04-indifference-open-spoilers/673018/106 "2013-11-07T15:15:45Z")
> [@grude](#): > > And what was up with the dead hippy chick? Her leg looked cut off, like a clean wound. Then she was being eaten across the street, zombies dismember and drag people now? Why didn’t they hear a shot? She didn’t even try to shoot the zombies? That whole scenario made no sense, and Rick had the NERVE to act like Carol was cold when he left that backpacker to die. > > Rick is insane to abandon all these chances to add single young healthy adults to his community, there is little risk adding people one or two at a time. Oh man, I forgot about the doomed backpacker from last season! That was pretty cold of Rick, Michonne, and Carl. I found the scene darkly comedic in its own weird way, though… ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-04-indifference-open-spoilers/673018/107 "2013-11-07T19:26:23Z")
Meeting Rick is a death sentence. You can survive for months and months but as soon as you run into this guy you’re curtains. ---
**Author:** ![theR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@theR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/theR)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-04-indifference-open-spoilers/673018/108 "2013-11-07T19:37:14Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > Meeting Rick is a death sentence. You can survive for months and months but as soon as you run into this guy you’re curtains. Or it is the only chance to stay alive. Every character on the show that is still alive has met Rick. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-04-indifference-open-spoilers/673018/109 "2013-11-07T22:17:20Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > Meeting Rick is a death sentence. You can survive for months and months but as soon as you run into this guy you’re curtains. And God help you if you’re black. The Highlander rule is fully in effect. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-04-indifference-open-spoilers/673018/110 "2013-11-07T22:38:17Z")
> [@theR](#): > > Or it is the only chance to stay alive. Every character on the show that is still alive has met Rick. 😛 Well, not if that mysterious radio broadcast had a live person behind it. Poor bastards… survive the apocalypse yet their time of Rickoning is at hand… ---
**Author:** ![sisu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@sisu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sisu)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-04-indifference-open-spoilers/673018/111 "2013-11-07T23:24:54Z")
I’m just waiting for Rick to tell everyone Carol was killed and then bang she shows up again, that will put a lot of strain on his so called leadership. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-04-indifference-open-spoilers/673018/112 "2013-11-08T00:14:24Z")
> [@Human\_Action](#): > > My fondest wish is that the group bumps into an emerging society that has its shit together: a stable and competent government, an open-arms policy for anyone willing to work and obey a simple code of conduct, and pro-actively efforts to keep their area walker-free. They could even wear anti-zombie attire, instead of always going around with bare arms and thin fabric that’s easily bitten through. I want the survivors that we’ve been unfortunate enough to be stuck following to be positively _shamed_ at how badly they’ve bungled things. They’d still have the problem of someone dying in their sleep and starting a zombie break out. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-04-indifference-open-spoilers/673018/113 "2013-11-08T02:25:14Z")
> [@Human\_Action](#): > > I\ > My fondest wish is that the group bumps into an emerging society that has its shit together: a stable and competent government, an open-arms policy for anyone willing to work and obey a simple code of conduct, and pro-actively efforts to keep their area walker-free. They could even wear anti-zombie attire, instead of always going around with bare arms and thin fabric that’s easily bitten through. I want the survivors that we’ve been unfortunate enough to be stuck following to be positively _shamed_ at how badly they’ve bungled things. That would be awesome. > [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Well, not if that mysterious radio broadcast had a live person behind it. > Poor bastards… survive the apocalypse yet their time of Rickoning is at hand… Heh. 🙂 > [@levdrakon](#): > > They’d still have the problem of someone dying in their sleep and starting a zombie break out. Which they have already thought of, since they actually have their shit together. ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2013, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-04-indifference-open-spoilers/673018/114 "2013-11-09T02:40:13Z")
> [@Human\_Action](#): > > My fondest wish is that the group bumps into an emerging society that has its shit together: a stable and competent government, an open-arms policy for anyone willing to work and obey a simple code of conduct, and pro-actively efforts to keep their area walker-free. They could even wear anti-zombie attire, instead of always going around with bare arms and thin fabric that’s easily bitten through. I want the survivors that we’ve been unfortunate enough to be stuck following to be positively _shamed_ at how badly they’ve bungled things. Hell I wear a leather jacket and boots just to \*watch \*the damn show. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-04-indifference-open-spoilers/673018.md?page=5)