# The Walking Dead; 4.05 "Internment" (open spoilers)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 11, 2013, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-05-internment-open-spoilers/673612 "2013-11-11T01:36:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-05-internment-open-spoilers/673612/21 "2013-11-11T19:56:52Z")

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> [@Tangent](#):
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> I wonder how they’ll deal with the fence. It’s been obvious for a while that they need to reinforce the perimeter somehow. I also wonder if that large zombie herd Daryl’s group ran into a few episodes ago will be showing up again soon.

Oh, thank goodness they had a giant bucket of guns and ammo on hand just in case both fences were breeched! I mean since those prison fences appear to be about as strong as a chicken wire garden enclosure.

Although it makes me sad that my dad and I will probably never get to bond over machine-gunning a hundred zombies.

> [@MacTech](#):
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> They need to take a bold step and purge the idiots from the show, get rid of Rick, crazy girl (the one naming the walkers) drunkie pre-med guy, and unless Tyrese grows a spine and mans up and stops whining, Tyrese as well, they all need to be Zombie Chow

So basically the Daryl show.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-05-internment-open-spoilers/673612/22 "2013-11-11T20:31:08Z")

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Did they ever reveal who was feeding the Zombies rats to keep them weakening the fence? It seemed at the time it was someone who was trying to sabotage from within.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-05-internment-open-spoilers/673612/23 "2013-11-11T20:41:28Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> Did they ever reveal who was feeding the Zombies rats to keep them weakening the fence? It seemed at the time it was someone who was trying to sabotage from within.

We don’t know yet who was doing that, or why. There was some speculation it might be the girl, Lizzie, who was naming the zombies, but no solid evidence has pointed to anyone.

> [@Folacin](#):
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> You leave crazy girl alone - I think she’s getting better. Her luring the upper level zombie along the walkway was quite brave and pretty smart (tripping was unfortunate).

I like her, too. And for anyone who thinks she’s crazy because she was naming the walkers, don’t forget that Hershel and his group at the farm were keeping a whole barn full of walkers and feeding them live chickens.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-05-internment-open-spoilers/673612/24 "2013-11-11T20:45:56Z")

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The only moment I liked was during the shooting gallery scene when Rick glanced over at Carl and realized “Holy shit, Carl’s better at this than I am!”  
The rest of it was just one bit of dumbassery after another.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-05-internment-open-spoilers/673612/25 "2013-11-11T20:48:07Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> The only moment I liked was during the shooting gallery scene when Rick glanced over at Carl and realized “Holy shit, Carl’s better at this than I am!”

“Son, have you ever considered a career in Law Enforcement?”

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-05-internment-open-spoilers/673612/26 "2013-11-11T22:46:15Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> +1 - I knew he was ‘coming back’ - I kept looking for him in the crowd of zombies that busted thru, as that was the only re-appearance I would have found satisfying.

For a moment I was afraid an undead _Carol_ would show up in the crowd.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-05-internment-open-spoilers/673612/27 "2013-11-11T22:52:59Z")

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I love how they wait until the crowd of zombies breached both fence lines before they simply killed them all.

With guns and ammo they had all along.

Priceless.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-05-internment-open-spoilers/673612/28 "2013-11-11T23:07:44Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> For a moment I was afraid an undead _Carol_ would show up in the crowd.

More angst for Rick. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-05-internment-open-spoilers/673612/29 "2013-11-11T23:08:18Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> Granted that they should have reinforced the fence earlier, using the logs as quick fix strikes me as not-stupid. Not sure where they came from, though . . .

The logs came from the dismantled pig pens–we see Rick taking them apart in the episode.

The guns outside was incredibly dumb, but I kind of get why ‘shooting gallery’ is a last resort for them. Ammo and guns are precious and noisy. It still doesn’t forgive why they never bothered to find a better way to thinning the fence zombies out.

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-05-internment-open-spoilers/673612/30 "2013-11-11T23:10:03Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> Loved this episode. Very tense. I had even convinced myself briefly that maybe Glenn would be killed off.
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> Only downside was the appearance of The Governor who was very uninteresting by the end of last season.

The episode was pretty exciting. I was a bit worried about Glenn. He looked like he was just about to expire! Pretty intense scene!

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-05-internment-open-spoilers/673612/31 "2013-11-11T23:25:09Z")

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> [@Push\_You\_Down](#):
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> It still doesn’t forgive why they never bothered to find a better way to thinning the fence zombies out.

Flame throwers.

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**Author:** ![emarkp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3be4f8/32.png) [@emarkp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emarkp)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-05-internment-open-spoilers/673612/32 "2013-11-12T00:28:36Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Flame throwers.

Flaming zombies.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-05-internment-open-spoilers/673612/33 "2013-11-12T01:20:30Z")

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> [@emarkp](#):
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> Flaming zombies.

fabulous!

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-05-internment-open-spoilers/673612/34 "2013-11-12T01:27:08Z")

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Heck, every time they go out, they should be picking up more vehicles. Just park a line of cars along the outer fence to brace it. These people is dumb.

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-05-internment-open-spoilers/673612/35 "2013-11-12T02:50:17Z")

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> [@emarkp](#):
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> Flaming zombies.

A.K.A. Walking pillars of flame setting everything ablaze…

Bad idea

Cool looking, definitely, but highly impractical

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-05-internment-open-spoilers/673612/36 "2013-11-12T03:02:36Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> \<snip\>  
> So basically the Daryl show.

I’m listening. 🙂

> [@Quimby](#):
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> Did they ever reveal who was feeding the Zombies rats to keep them weakening the fence? It seemed at the time it was someone who was trying to sabotage from within.

I wonder if it was the Governor, luring more walkers to the fence.

> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> The only moment I liked was during the shooting gallery scene when Rick glanced over at Carl and realized “Holy shit, Carl’s better at this than I am!”\<snip\>

I noticed that, too - it looked like Rick was realizing that no matter what he _wanted_ for Carl, Carl is a force to be reckoned with in the Zombie Apocalypse, and he needs to deal with it.

> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Heck, every time they go out, they should be picking up more vehicles. Just park a line of cars along the outer fence to brace it. These people is dumb.

Yeah. They is.

The young blonde girl is messed-up - her sticking her foot in Glenn’s vomited mucous was quite disturbing - who does that?!?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-05-internment-open-spoilers/673612/37 "2013-11-12T03:12:35Z")

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> [@MacTech](#):
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> A.K.A. Walking pillars of flame setting everything ablaze…
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> Bad idea
> 
> Cool looking, definitely, but highly impractical

If they got them against the fence, it would be contained.  
However, Everything Always Goes Wrong on this show. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-05-internment-open-spoilers/673612/38 "2013-11-12T03:27:55Z")

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Hasn’t (or shouldn’t) the “protect the children” thing pretty much run its course by now? Hershel hesitates to put a zombie down because the kids are watching? Get over it, old man. The kids will.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-05-internment-open-spoilers/673612/39 "2013-11-12T03:51:00Z")

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I though Herschel was taking the dead sick people off to the back room to gack them because it would be too upsetting for the other sick people to see their soon-to-be future. There sure was a lot of stupid in the quarantined area of the jail, though. They even mentioned everyone closing their cell doors, and people were still turning and infecting other people. Gah.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-05-internment-open-spoilers/673612/40 "2013-11-12T04:24:44Z")

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“Look I know you’re sick and need rest, but just help me lift this corpse onto the gurney and roll it into another room because a quick stab would JUST BE SOOO TRAUMATIC!”

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