# The Walking Dead; 4.06 "Live Bait" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 18, 2013, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-06-live-bait-open-spoilers/674154 "2013-11-18T00:45:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-06-live-bait-open-spoilers/674154/21 "2013-11-18T15:00:57Z")
Now that cancer dad has passed away, the women and kid are free to move on with The Man. I know, there was a truckful of junk food and a secure apartment, but I myself would go mad if I had to think about staying there for possibly years with just my kid and sister. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-06-live-bait-open-spoilers/674154/22 "2013-11-18T15:11:39Z")
> [@Human\_Action](#): > > When the younger sister tripped over nothing to get herself the standard woman-in-horror-movie twisted ankle, I couldn’t roll my eyes far enough. I’m nearly positive that they made her trip so that older sister was forced to help her. That way when the daughter was frozen in fear she had to make a decision. Run _away_ or run to the governor since there wasn’t another option. Basically, they she went through the “parts of a story” (rising action/climax/falling action) internally and very quickly during the hour. A bit sloppy, but the show is a bit sloppy to begin with so it’s right on par. We saw her hate the governor then forgive him. > [@John\_Mace](#): > > Is it just me, or does the older sister look an awful lot like Maggie. Yes, to the point that it was almost confusing throughout the show. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-06-live-bait-open-spoilers/674154/23 "2013-11-18T15:32:34Z")
My assumption is this week’s episode takes place before last weeks appearance of the governor. There is one episode left before the mid-season hiatus. So my WAG is that the Governor’s newfound humanity is going to come into conflict with Martinez’s pragmatic badassitude. After much fighting and heartbreak, next weeks episode will end with the Governor showing up to the prison in the hopes that Rick & Company will take the little girl and other survivors in, even though they will undoubtedly kill the Governor. Because I really don’t feel like watching another half-season of Governor vs The Prison 2.0. > [@coolbyrne](#): > > Why in the world would you leave a secure apartment? Isn’t that kind of the point? Don’t you want to find a place to hunker down? Where exactly do you want to go that’s better? If you’ve heard a safety zone has been established or something, maybe, but really, do you want to get into a truck and just go where “the roads and the biters” take you? Is that an intelligent plan for the Zombie Apocalypse? It’s the classic zombie apocalypse dilemma. Hunkering down in an apartment complex, bunker, house, or shopping mall is fine until you run out of food or other supplies. But by then you might become trapped, if not overrun by mobs of the zombies who have now surrounded the place. Mobility is great, but being on the road affords little protection. And cars tend to break down or run out of gas right when you need them to get away from an army of the undead. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-06-live-bait-open-spoilers/674154/24 "2013-11-18T15:33:50Z")
When Guv was standing outside the nursing home, I smiled and thought-- geriatric zombies!! I was not disappointed. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SuperNelson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@SuperNelson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuperNelson)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-06-live-bait-open-spoilers/674154/25 "2013-11-18T16:34:38Z")
Walkers with walkers! And Wheelers! ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-06-live-bait-open-spoilers/674154/26 "2013-11-18T17:24:22Z")
I will say this, at least the gov. was thinking strategically at the nursing home, at first… Most of the geriatric walkers were of little threat, rather than waste precious ammo that would also attract more walkers due to the noise of the gunshot, simply avoiding them or closing them in their rooms would net the same effect. Keeping them at a safe distance However, once he found that rattly cart of oxygen tanks, he compromised his forward progress by making more continuous noise than a few gunshots would, should’ve just grabbed two tanks (one under each arm) and made a quiet escape… Hmm, maybe it’s the oxygen making everyone dumb in TWD, gov gets near a concentrated supply of it and becomes dumber than Rick… ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-06-live-bait-open-spoilers/674154/27 "2013-11-18T17:44:00Z")
“Sprained ankle, huh? We better leave the road and head cross-country! It’s our only hope!” ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-06-live-bait-open-spoilers/674154/28 "2013-11-18T18:25:13Z")
And considering they were breathing hard due to physical exertion in running from the zombies, they were breathing in more oxygen than normal, and their intelligence was dropping as well… It’s gotta be the oxygen, something about it makes people stupid in TWD-verse ---
**Author:** ![flaming\_yawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cab0a1/32.png) [@flaming\_yawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flaming_yawn)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-06-live-bait-open-spoilers/674154/29 "2013-11-18T18:26:49Z")
the guv is getting more action than anyone else (except glen) – could they have got any other actress except a maggie look alike? ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-06-live-bait-open-spoilers/674154/30 "2013-11-18T19:32:14Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > When Guv was standing outside the nursing home, I smiled and thought-- geriatric zombies!! I was not disappointed. 😃 Yeah, that was a fun scene with the “feeble old zombies”. I got a few giggles out of it! ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-06-live-bait-open-spoilers/674154/31 "2013-11-18T19:33:18Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > “Sprained ankle, huh? We better leave the road and head cross-country! It’s our only hope!” Yeah, that was really stupid. ---
**Author:** ![stosh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@stosh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stosh)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-06-live-bait-open-spoilers/674154/32 "2013-11-18T20:53:02Z")
Why would you leave any of them behind you. An axe or hammer would handle things nicely. So now, the gov.s a good guy. Yeah, I see spin off. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-06-live-bait-open-spoilers/674154/33 "2013-11-18T22:20:10Z")
I don’t think the governor is a good guy, he is still the same guy who hasn’t been given any reason to be evil. There had to be a reason people followed him before too, he was protective of the people of woodbury so i don’t see him doing favors for that family as out of character, and if there was one thing that could tame his revenge obsession it would be a daughter surrogate to replace his dead one. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-06-live-bait-open-spoilers/674154/34 "2013-11-18T22:53:14Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > I don’t think the governor is a good guy, he is still the same guy who hasn’t been given any reason to be evil. There had to be a reason people followed him before too, he was protective of the people of woodbury so i don’t see him doing favors for that family as out of character, and if there was one thing that could tame his revenge obsession it would be a daughter surrogate to replace his dead one. Very good point! The daughter-substitute just might keep him a bit more grounded than otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-06-live-bait-open-spoilers/674154/35 "2013-11-18T23:03:36Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > When Guv was standing outside the nursing home, I smiled and thought-- geriatric zombies!! I was not disappointed. 😃 That was hilarious. From a distance you can’t really tell most of them apart from living old people. Just don’t think about it too much or it starts getting really horrific if to try to imagine what things were like from the residents’ perspective when shit hit the fan, especially the ones with dementia. :eek: > [@Human\_Action](#): > > …Do we know that? It seems like a sensible anti-zombie measure, and since Woodbury was burned down, I doubt Martinez and his new crew would be based out of there. Maybe I’m wrong, but it looked like parts of the pit still had the burn marks from last season. I don’t know which is worse; the Governor inadvertently circling back to his old stomping grounds, or it just being a random coincidence he ran into some of his old gang. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-06-live-bait-open-spoilers/674154/36 "2013-11-18T23:26:03Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Maybe I’m wrong, but it looked like parts of the pit still had the burn marks from last season. I don’t know which is worse; the Governor inadvertently circling back to his old stomping grounds, or it just being a random coincidence he ran into some of his old gang. :rolleyes: It’s conceivable that the Governor is intentionally leading the women to the prison to send them off into Rick’s care. (Without showing his face to the prison crew, of course.) If this is the case, Woodbury may have been on the way. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-06-live-bait-open-spoilers/674154/37 "2013-11-19T00:39:48Z")
> [@MacTech](#): > > I will say this, at least the gov. was thinking strategically at the nursing home, at first… > > Most of the geriatric walkers were of little threat, rather than waste precious ammo that would also attract more walkers due to the noise of the gunshot, simply avoiding them or closing them in their rooms would net the same effect. Keeping them at a safe distance Saving ammo is great and all, but why didn’t he just knife them like he did legless tub zombie? Nice and quiet, quick and easy, downgrades something from being hardly a threat to not at all a threat. Overall I loved the episode, though. Had no trouble telling new chick from Maggie. Maybe it’s because she was just on Arrow last week (Diggle’s ex-wife) and I know her from other shows (like the Unit). Yeah, I admit they are similar looking, just not confusingly so to me. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-06-live-bait-open-spoilers/674154/38 "2013-11-19T01:58:16Z")
We just watched it tonight. It would have been good if Brian hadn’t been such an evil bastard. I would love a scene where, terribly injured, he looks up at Glen and says, “Forgive me.” and Glen blows his brains out. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-06-live-bait-open-spoilers/674154/39 "2013-11-19T01:59:46Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > Maybe it’s because she was just on Arrow last week (Diggle’s ex-wife) and I know her from other shows (like the Unit). Yeah, I admit they are similar looking, just not confusingly so to me. Maggie or new chick was in the Unit? I quit watching it the season the Black guy bought the farm, and I do not remember seeing her. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-06-live-bait-open-spoilers/674154/40 "2013-11-19T02:04:18Z")
> [@SuperNelson](#): > > Walkers with walkers! And Wheelers! I was calling them Crawlers. 🙂 > [@flaming\_yawn](#): > > the guv is getting more action than anyone else (except glen) – could they have got any other actress except a maggie look alike? I was thinking about that, too - Glen and the Guv are Da Man! Da Men? > [@DigitalC](#): > > I don’t think the governor is a good guy, he is still the same guy who hasn’t been given any reason to be evil. There had to be a reason people followed him before too, he was protective of the people of woodbury so i don’t see him doing favors for that family as out of character, and if there was one thing that could tame his revenge obsession it would be a daughter surrogate to replace his dead one. But what happens to the Governor when Meagan dies (and she will - you can mark this post down as my prediction)? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-06-live-bait-open-spoilers/674154.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-06-live-bait-open-spoilers/674154.md?page=3)