# The Walking Dead; 4.09 "After" (open spoilers)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-09-after-open-spoilers/680934>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 10, 2014, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-09-after-open-spoilers/680934 "2014-02-10T01:12:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-09-after-open-spoilers/680934/101 "2014-02-13T00:53:37Z")

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> [@randwill](#):
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> How come Rick and Carl were walking? Seems like vehicles would be unlimited or has enough time passed that gasoline has broken down?

I’ve been bugged by that as well. If I follow the timeline, it’s been well over a year, maybe close to two. Gasoline would be getting stale for sure. But…they have still been using other vehicles in the show, the governor drove up to the prison with, what, 8 or 10 vehicles?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-09-after-open-spoilers/680934/102 "2014-02-13T01:22:13Z")

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> [@randwill](#):
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> How come Rick and Carl were walking? Seems like vehicles would be unlimited or has enough time passed that gasoline has broken down?

Good point.  
Poetic license. It was cooler for Rick to stumble along rather than bleed on automobile upholstery.  
🙂

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-09-after-open-spoilers/680934/103 "2014-02-13T01:29:41Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Good point.  
> Poetic license. It was cooler for Rick to stumble along rather than bleed on automobile upholstery.  
> 🙂

Well, the cars with working batteries and usable gas were at the prison, which wasn’t a safe place to car shop. The getaway vehicles that could leave, did. I wouldn’t expect any other cars along the way to work, nor Carl how to hotwire and drive them. Can Carl drive?

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**Author:** ![Roundabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/dec6dc/32.png) [@Roundabout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roundabout)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-09-after-open-spoilers/680934/104 "2014-02-13T01:42:24Z")

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It was a nice little episode. Not much more than filler, but still better than the overblown stupidity of the previous eps.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-09-after-open-spoilers/680934/105 "2014-02-13T01:52:24Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Can Carl drive?

Not if his Mother taught him.

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**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-09-after-open-spoilers/680934/106 "2014-02-13T01:56:55Z")

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Well, of course he can drive a caaaaaaaaaaaar.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-09-after-open-spoilers/680934/107 "2014-02-13T02:43:55Z")

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> [@leftfield6](#):
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> Well, of course he can drive a caaaaaaaaaaaar.

I beg your pardon? 😕

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**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-09-after-open-spoilers/680934/108 "2014-02-13T02:47:15Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> I beg your pardon? 😕

As Rick would say it. He doesn’t say Carl, he says Caaaaaaaarl.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-09-after-open-spoilers/680934/109 "2014-02-13T03:02:12Z")

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Regarding the vehicles:

How long does it take a standard automotive tire to dry rot from disuse? Not sure if the Georgia weather would be a contributing factor.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-09-after-open-spoilers/680934/110 "2014-02-13T03:24:33Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> I still say they need to raid the bedrooms for fresh clothes. They’re really getting gross.

That’s another point in the show that doesn’t make no damned sense - there are clothes EVERYFREAKINGWHERE! Why are you wearing gross, dirty rags? Why are you spending time washing clothes?

> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Well, the cars with working batteries and usable gas were at the prison, which wasn’t a safe place to car shop. The getaway vehicles that could leave, did. I wouldn’t expect any other cars along the way to work, nor Carl how to hotwire and drive them. Can Carl drive?

One of my first foraging runs would have been picking up all the bikes, tires, air pumps, tire patch kits, etc. I could find. I’d make a special effort to find some wagons that attach to bicycles.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-09-after-open-spoilers/680934/111 "2014-02-13T04:19:49Z")

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Heck, I’d’a hit a Jeep dealership and taken all the diesel vehicles, preferably all of the same or similar models to simplify maintenance.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-09-after-open-spoilers/680934/112 "2014-02-13T12:19:55Z")

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> [@leftfield6](#):
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> As Rick would say it. He doesn’t say Carl, he says Caaaaaaaarl.

Ah. 🙂

He should be saying “Cawl”, but the actor is British.

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**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-09-after-open-spoilers/680934/113 "2014-02-13T15:40:39Z")

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> [@Reverse](#):
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> In case you didn’t catch it, her husband murder-suicided himself and their son, probably the friend too, and probably tried to take Michonne with them.

Wait, what? I didn’t catch that. When and how did that happen? Or are you speculating?

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**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-09-after-open-spoilers/680934/114 "2014-02-13T15:43:07Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Can Carl drive?

I wondered that too. If I was stuck in that prison one of the first things I’d do is teach Carl how to drive. It could save lives.

> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Not if his Mother taught him.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

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**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-09-after-open-spoilers/680934/115 "2014-02-13T20:42:34Z")

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> [@Soylent\_Juicy](#):
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> Wait, what? I didn’t catch that. When and how did that happen? Or are you speculating?

I think it can be inferred, since she spoke of the two “pets” very contemptuously back when she was first introduced and Andrea (?) asked if they were important to her when they were alive. I think she said something like they got what they deserved.

I just went back and watched the end and it looks like Michonne is standing next to a white BRICK wall after peeping in the window, when the house is clearly clapboard when Carl emerges to lure off the knocking zombies.

It will be amusing when this Great Mystery is cleared up in first video of the next program.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-09-after-open-spoilers/680934/116 "2014-02-13T22:45:46Z")

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In a SDMB thread it was said that in the comic, boy friend or friend went zombie, zombified the other, and they ate the child.

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**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-09-after-open-spoilers/680934/117 "2014-02-13T23:03:57Z")

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> [@Ellen\_Cherry](#):
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> It will be amusing when this Great Mystery is cleared up in first video of the next program.

While I have no way of knowing one way or the other, it wouldn’t surprise me if the next episode depicted the activities of characters other than Rick, Carl and Michone. We might not necessarily ever see those three back at that particular location again.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2014, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-09-after-open-spoilers/680934/118 "2014-02-14T00:45:28Z")

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> [@randwill](#):
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> While I have no way of knowing one way or the other, it wouldn’t surprise me if the next episode depicted the activities of characters other than Rick, Carl and Michone. We might not necessarily ever see those three back at that particular location again.

Some interview, somewhere at some time on the web said they will concentrate on individual characters as they get it back together after fleeing the prison.  
YMMV 🙂

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2014, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-09-after-open-spoilers/680934/119 "2014-02-14T02:38:25Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Ah. 🙂
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> He should be saying “Cawl”, but the actor is British.

Who’s British?

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**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2014, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-09-after-open-spoilers/680934/120 "2014-02-14T03:13:19Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Who’s British?

Andrew Lincoln who plays Rick.

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