# The Walking Dead; 4.11 "Claims" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 24, 2014, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-11-claims-open-spoilers/682057 "2014-02-24T01:52:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-11-claims-open-spoilers/682057/61 "2014-02-25T01:01:06Z")
> [@GreedySmurf](#): > > “I know what the cause is” and “It’s Classified” - I was waiting for Glen (or wanting him to) to break out with something along the lines of, oh you know do you? > The action in the house I thought was good, some nice tension was created once I got past the whole, they just happened to pick that house. And how the hell does a group like that even survive if a minor disagreement about a full sized bed turns into a fight resulting in someone being choked out. I think “it’s classified” means, “Nobody told me shit.” Yes, the tension of his hiding and escape, getting the others away, was good. The intruding group were a bunch of red neck assholes. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-11-claims-open-spoilers/682057/62 "2014-02-25T02:38:40Z")
Why would razors and scissors in this world be scarce? If they’re breaking into houses looking for cookies and cheez whiz, surely there are scissors in kitchen drawers and packs of disposable razors in the bathrooms. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-11-claims-open-spoilers/682057/63 "2014-02-25T03:21:09Z")
Well, maybe scissors wouldn’t be scarce, but razors would get dull and there’s no factories running to make new ones. But that aside, if you’re wondering through the woods or away from civilization like most of the people seem to be doing, while trying to avoid zombies and bad humans, you wouldn’t have much time to shave and cut your hair, and take a bath or wash your clothes. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-11-claims-open-spoilers/682057/64 "2014-02-25T04:15:40Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > Well, maybe scissors wouldn’t be scarce, but razors would get dull and there’s no factories running to make new ones. But that aside, if you’re wondering through the woods or away from civilization like most of the people seem to be doing, while trying to avoid zombies and bad humans, you wouldn’t have much time to shave and cut your hair, **and take a bath or wash your clothes**. (bolding mine) Which is why I’m very impressed none of them smelled rick as they went thru the house. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-11-claims-open-spoilers/682057/65 "2014-02-25T04:20:05Z")
> [@simster](#): > > (bolding mine) > > Which is why I’m very impressed none of them smelled rick as they went thru the house. No reason to think that they would pick up Rick’s presumed funk over their own. And Rick is only a couple of day’s away from the prison, where presumably showering was at least an occasional thing. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-11-claims-open-spoilers/682057/66 "2014-02-25T06:15:23Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > I was amazed that he chose to hide under the bed. What is he, 8? Okay, he is weak and maybe it was just a poor decision made out of haste. But there’s 0 chance of defending yourself if someone looks under the bed. Well, if he had a sharp poking device on him like every single person should at all times, he could give someone a nice poke in the eye. 🙂 > [@alphaboi867](#): > > \ > True, and I highly doubt any of the women are still waxing or shaving their legs & armpits.\ This has always bothered me in any number of movies and tv shows - come the apocalypse (or getting stranded on a desert island, etc.), the first thing you do is STOP SHAVING YOUR LEGS! I hand-wave it away because I understand that the movie-makers don’t want women running around with hairy legs and pits, but still. > [@Nobody](#): > > Well, maybe scissors wouldn’t be scarce, but razors would get dull \ I read somewhere that disposable razors just don’t get any duller after a certain point, and I think they’re right - you could still shave if you desperately wanted to. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-11-claims-open-spoilers/682057/67 "2014-02-25T14:59:04Z")
My expectations of the intelligence of the characters are so low that I really expected Rick to climb out of the bathroom window with the scissors, leaving the Uzi behind. Dumping the most perfect zombie-world vehicle imaginable because it has a hole in the gas tank, though… right down 80 IQ road. (A hint for both Walking Dumdums and RW folks… if you get a hole in a non-pressurized tank, find a machine screw or lag bolt about 25% bigger than the hole and run it in. Use sealant or epoxy for a more permanent repair until it can get replaced or welded.) ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-11-claims-open-spoilers/682057/68 "2014-02-25T15:10:22Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > My expectations of the intelligence of the characters are so low that I really expected Rick to climb out of the bathroom window with the scissors, leaving the Uzi behind. > > Dumping the most perfect zombie-world vehicle imaginable because it has a hole in the gas tank, though… right down 80 IQ road. (A hint for both Walking Dumdums and RW folks… if you get a hole in a non-pressurized tank, find a machine screw or lag bolt about 25% bigger than the hole and run it in. Use sealant or epoxy for a more permanent repair until it can get replaced or welded.) since the hole was in the bottom of the tank - they were also out of fuel. (assuming single tank on that side of the vehicle) ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-11-claims-open-spoilers/682057/69 "2014-02-25T15:29:00Z")
> [@simster](#): > > since the hole was in the bottom of the tank - they were also out of fuel. (assuming single tank on that side of the vehicle) Dual if not quad tanks on that model. Fuel no further than the nearest gas station + siphon + jerry cans… what, they were only going to drive the truck until it ran dry? If there’s one thing that drives me crazy about the world of WD, it’s that the amount of readily available remaining goods and resources should last nearly the lifetime of the survivors, yet they persist in treating it like a Mad Max scenario where every scrap of metal and drop of gas is worth a village war, groups are lightly armed with old pistols, rags are the fashion and no one seems to remember how to cut hair. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-11-claims-open-spoilers/682057/70 "2014-02-25T15:44:05Z")
Pretty good episode, and I kept asking… why couldn’t Michonne have been like this all along? I actually like her now!! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-11-claims-open-spoilers/682057/71 "2014-02-25T16:07:20Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > Dual if not quad tanks on that model. I wondered. But it is a plot device to get Ford & Company hooked up with Our Heroes, so maybe Dumb Ass Smart Guy-DASG-shot all four tanks with his “inexperienced automatic weapons fire.” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-11-claims-open-spoilers/682057/72 "2014-02-25T16:15:40Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I wondered. > But it is a plot device to get Ford & Company hooked up with Our Heroes, so maybe Dumb Ass Smart Guy-DASG-shot all four tanks with his “inexperienced automatic weapons fire.” 🙂 Or the army guy was smart enough to realize that was the tank they were running on - in any event, I don’t think the writers expect the audience to question that they were ‘out of gas’ at that point. As you said- its a plot device to get them all grouped back together at Terminus. ---
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-11-claims-open-spoilers/682057/73 "2014-02-25T16:46:16Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Pretty good episode, and I kept asking… why couldn’t Michonne have been like this all along? I actually like her now!! I don’t know if you’re being serious but Michonne wasn’t like this all along because she was pissed and bitter about the apocalypse. After being separated from a new group of people she’d taken into her heart, she wandered around until she had an Epiphany. She decided wanted to re-join the human race and start talking to them and shit. 🙂 Regarding Rick hiding under the bed — he was scared shitless. Did you count how many times they showed him visibly shaking as he cowered under there? I don’t know if they were trying to convey that he’d completely lost his shit, or that he was scared due to being injured. I guess his injuries weren’t that bad if he can go dropping off roofs onto porches, though. How do you make machine gun bullets go up under a big truck and make holes in the gas tank? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-11-claims-open-spoilers/682057/74 "2014-02-25T17:30:42Z")
> [@Ellen\_Cherry](#): > > How do you make machine gun bullets go up under a big truck and make holes in the gas tank? 😕 Deux ex machina, however one spells it. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-11-claims-open-spoilers/682057/75 "2014-02-25T17:51:43Z")
Could also spell it “ricochet” or “spray 'n pray”… It looked to me like he also swept the tanks with auto fire, hitting them all, and he was dealing with muzzle climb as well That particular scene wasn’t overly horrible with the way someone unaccustomed to full auto fire would react in a stressful situation, especially someone unaccustomed to the controls on an M4/M16 ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-11-claims-open-spoilers/682057/76 "2014-02-25T20:52:31Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > \and no one seems to remember how to cut hair. Carrot Top’s doo is military reg (except for the 'stache) so he trims it at least once a week, probably a bit more often. He obviously shaves everyday. Everyone’s got their unique look. Comic books (and TV in general) don’t waste time showing us the daily upkeep. Now, three hours on the road @ 60 miles/hour is almost two hundred miles away. Holy frak that is not walking distance! Time to get a new truck! ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-11-claims-open-spoilers/682057/77 "2014-02-25T21:20:55Z")
> [@Ellen Cherry](#): > > How do you make machine gun bullets go up under a big truck and make holes in the gas tank? 😕 Um, 'cuz the tanks are exposed on each side of the truck? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-11-claims-open-spoilers/682057/78 "2014-02-25T21:25:35Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Now, three hours on the road @ 60 miles/hour is almost two hundred miles away. Holy frak that is not walking distance! Time to get a new truck! One would think that a truck is what Glenn is looking for, rather than a two hundred mile walk. However, his hormones are governing his thinking, the big guy is messing with him, and it is a TV show based on a comic book. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-11-claims-open-spoilers/682057/79 "2014-02-25T21:34:29Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > Um, 'cuz the tanks are exposed on each side of the truck? Well it was leaking out the bottom, not the side. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-11-claims-open-spoilers/682057/80 "2014-02-25T21:34:33Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > One would think that a truck is what Glenn is looking for, rather than a two hundred mile walk. However, his hormones are governing his thinking, the big guy is messing with him, and it is a TV show based on a comic book. 🙂 He started out just walking away - I don’t think its even dawned on him the distance that has been traveled at this point. (to be fair - probably not to the writers either). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-11-claims-open-spoilers/682057.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-11-claims-open-spoilers/682057.md?page=5)