# The Walking Dead; 4.13 "Alone" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 10, 2014, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-13-alone-open-spoilers/683308 "2014-03-10T00:16:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-13-alone-open-spoilers/683308/21 "2014-03-10T16:46:02Z")
> [@VunderBob](#): > > The funeral home was a trap. (?) > > Get unsuspecting people to enter, sick the walkers on them, and kidnap whoever escapes. That seems like an awful lot of work to do when you can just kidnap people as they sleep or something equally easy. Plus, if food is scarce, you’re not going to be leaving yours around as a trap. ---
**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-13-alone-open-spoilers/683308/22 "2014-03-10T17:08:15Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > That seems like an awful lot of work to do when you can just kidnap people as they sleep or something equally easy. Plus, if food is scarce, you’re not going to be leaving yours around as a trap. If your purpose is to find guns, ammo, or other vaulables from the survivors, it works. You could also catch a cute blond capable of bearing lots of kids. As I posted later, if this _IS_ the purpose of the funeral home, I’ll be very pissed. The idea is very cliched, and if I thought of it, that’s probably the purpose of the place in the overall plot. I have this wonderful tendency to think right in the middle of the box. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-13-alone-open-spoilers/683308/23 "2014-03-10T17:36:38Z")
Predicting it now, the final shot of the season will be a group of characters entering a gate with a pan up to give us our first bird’s eye view of Terminus and then done. The idea that the house was bait is interesting. You would have t have a lot of resources to afford it (that was a lot of food to “waste” if the zombies you send in kill everyone and you nab no one) but could be. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-13-alone-open-spoilers/683308/24 "2014-03-10T17:56:36Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > Predicting it now, the final shot of the season will be a group of characters entering a gate with a pan up to give us our first bird’s eye view of Terminus and then done. I hope you are wrong, but I pretty much think you’re right. A good cliffhanger could be if there is one straggler group thinking that Terminus is going to be a good thing and they get to the gates and find another primary cast member crucified out front. You slowly pull through the settlement/encampment revealing it’s more like Vegas in “The Stand.” > [@Quimby](#): > > The idea that the house was bait is interesting. You would have t have a lot of resources to afford it (that was a lot of food to “waste” if the zombies you send in kill everyone and you nab no one) but could be. That seemed to all be food and drink that would keep for a bit. In theory it wouldn’t necessarily go to waste. They can always go back in and clear the house and take the food back. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-13-alone-open-spoilers/683308/25 "2014-03-10T19:51:42Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I didn’t like this one as much as every one else seems to. I’m just sick and tired of people splitting up from their groups. It’s STUPID, STUPID, STUPID! But I think the show agrees with you here. Everyone knew Maggie going off alone was bad idea (and even she figured it out). And then, when you’re down to two - and one wants to go and the other wants to stay - how do you resolve that? Bob was being a noble idiot pushing on after Maggie, but that’s a standard story telling prototype. Sasha was tired of traveling/scared/I don’t know what - but wanting to hole up in a defensible building when maybe everyone else is dead isn’t a bad plan. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-13-alone-open-spoilers/683308/26 "2014-03-10T20:15:28Z")
I liked the idea of a mortuary being a safe place to hide from the risen dead. The gang, except the leader, will serve as the red shirts for the next big zombie battle, probably in the finale. The fog scene was a nice change of pace. Looking forward to Carol and kids. Hopefully they don’t drag out the reveal more than necessary. > [@John\_Mace](#): > > I didn’t like this one as much as every one else seems to. This entire half-season has mostly been a meandering waste of time so far. They’re running out of material for philosophical speeches about hope, so all those scenes fall on their face now (like the Maggie monologue). They’re trying to do introspective character episodes, but it ain’t working. They’re not given particularly interesting moral dilemmas which force them to make decisions and reveal their character. Probably the worst stretch of the show since the farm, but at least that had Shane rubbing his head and scheming. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-13-alone-open-spoilers/683308/27 "2014-03-10T20:17:46Z")
The fog scene was intense - what they should have done was not lifted the fog until the fight was over. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-13-alone-open-spoilers/683308/28 "2014-03-10T20:40:00Z")
I can buy the love sick Maggie marching off to find Glenn. I can sorta buy Sasha staying in an abandoned building because she’s afraid to go to Terminus and find out Tyreese is dead. It’s a stupid, impractical decision, but people do stupid things. But then Maggie is chillaxing on the ground outback, there’s a little speech, and the conflict is over and they’re all back together. Well, that was pointless. Didn’t see how anything Maggie said was more convincing compared to Bob. The soldiers who died in the ZA were spinning in their grave watching two skinny gals obliterate walkers with a sharp stick and a broken off road sign. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-13-alone-open-spoilers/683308/29 "2014-03-10T20:49:21Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > The soldiers who died in the ZA were spinning in their grave watching two skinny gals obliterate walkers with a sharp stick and a broken off road sign. Yeah, I’ve never understood the whole “The military is helpless against the zombie hordes” trope. They should be well-equipped to handle the undead. If they can’t handle the risen, rotting revenants, then nobody should. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-13-alone-open-spoilers/683308/30 "2014-03-10T20:51:21Z")
It doesn’t really make much sense that everyone assumes everyone else is dead. Most of them should’ve realized they were basically winning the prison fight, nobody saw anyone else go down. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-13-alone-open-spoilers/683308/31 "2014-03-10T20:57:13Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I didn’t like this one as much as every one else seems to. **I’m just sick and tired of people splitting up from their groups. It’s STUPID, STUPID, STUPID!** > > I really can’t wait until they get everyone back together-- not liking the 6,000 different plot lines that we keep jumping between. (OK, that was a bit of an exaggeration.) Same here. Stupid Maggie, heading off on her own. Stupid Sasha, deciding to leave Bob and hole up in some random building (where she’ll grow food on the roof!). Stupid Maggie, laying in the middle of the road next to an ice cream truck, only to be saved by Sasha. Then they magically catch up with Bob, are reunited and it feels **so good** and all is well. I mean, they haven’t yet learned the old adage of “safety in numbers” by now? ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-13-alone-open-spoilers/683308/32 "2014-03-10T21:00:54Z")
Oh, and another poster’s prediction ( **Quimby?** ) seems to be coming true: we aren’t catching a whiff of Terminus until next season, whenever that’s supposed to be. Fall of this year? Spring of 2015? ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-13-alone-open-spoilers/683308/33 "2014-03-10T21:39:40Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Same here. Stupid Maggie, heading off on her own. Stupid Sasha, deciding to leave Bob and hole up in some random building (where she’ll grow food on the roof!). Stupid Maggie, laying in the middle of the road next to an ice cream truck, only to be saved by Sasha. Then they magically catch up with Bob, are reunited and it feels **so good** and all is well. > > I mean, they haven’t yet learned the old adage of “safety in numbers” by now? Safety in numbers worked out so well for the Woodbury and prison folk, and I’m sure Terminus will be a democratic socialist utopia. 🙂 OTOH, Beth and Daryl would be better off right now if Beth hadn’t run off ahead. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-13-alone-open-spoilers/683308/34 "2014-03-10T21:54:02Z")
> [@gytalf2000](#): > > Yeah, I’ve never understood the whole “The military is helpless against the zombie hordes” trope. They should be well-equipped to handle the undead. If they can’t handle the risen, rotting revenants, then nobody should. Well, to be quite fair - our survivors know quite a bit more than the army did at the onset - and apparently now, the heads squish really easily. WWZ dealt with this idea pretty well I thought - ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-13-alone-open-spoilers/683308/35 "2014-03-10T21:58:23Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Safety in numbers worked out so well for the Woodbury and prison folk, and I’m sure Terminus will be a democratic socialist utopia. 🙂 LOL, yeah…until an asshole with a tank showed up. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-13-alone-open-spoilers/683308/36 "2014-03-10T22:16:43Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > LOL, yeah…until an asshole with a tank showed up. It’s always fun and games until an asshole with a tank shows up. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-13-alone-open-spoilers/683308/37 "2014-03-10T22:26:45Z")
> [@gytalf2000](#): > > Yeah, I’ve never understood the whole “The military is helpless against the zombie hordes” trope. They should be well-equipped to handle the undead. If they can’t handle the risen, rotting revenants, then nobody should. I wouldn’t say the military is helpless. But they have limited supplies and when 20 million walkers start rambling out of LA a month after Z-Day, I don’t think they’re in a great position to hold off the hordes forever. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2014, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-13-alone-open-spoilers/683308/38 "2014-03-11T00:22:01Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Oh, and another poster’s prediction ( **Quimby?** ) seems to be coming true: we aren’t catching a whiff of Terminus until next season, whenever that’s supposed to be. Fall of this year? Spring of 2015? I think it was me 🙂 It would make sense from a real world stand point as well since they will probably need the hiatus to build the sets. Re: Glenn and Maggie, at this point they are entirely definitely by the fact that they are a couple. We have probably learned more about Bob this year than we have learned about Glenn and Maggie in the last couple. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2014, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-13-alone-open-spoilers/683308/39 "2014-03-11T00:26:56Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > …The idea that the house was bait is interesting. You would have t have a lot of resources to afford it (that was a lot of food to “waste” if the zombies you send in kill everyone and you nab no one) but could be. It’d take a lot of effort to clear the house to. And were the nicely dressed (& embalmed?) corpses part of the bait to? :dubious: > [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > …A good cliffhanger could be if there is one straggler group thinking that Terminus is going to be a good thing and they get to the gates and find another primary cast member crucified out front. You slowly pull through the settlement/encampment revealing it’s more like Vegas in “The Stand.”… That idea kinda makes me regret the Governor being killed; imagine the mixed message it’d send if the gang found _him_ crucified & undead out front. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2014, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-13-alone-open-spoilers/683308/40 "2014-03-11T01:20:59Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > That idea kinda makes me regret the Governor being killed; imagine the mixed message it’d send if the gang found _him_ crucified & undead out front. 😛 Outfuckingstanding! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-13-alone-open-spoilers/683308.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-13-alone-open-spoilers/683308.md?page=3)