# The Walking Dead; 4.14 " **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 17, 2014, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-14/683887 "2014-03-17T00:39:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-14/683887/1 "2014-03-17T00:39:13Z")
[QUOTE=AMC] After establishing a new shelter, the group considers things returning to the way they used to be. [/QUOTE] This is the antepenultimate episode of the season; Melissa McBride, Yvette Nicole Brown, and Phil Brooks are on **Talking Dead**. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-14/683887/2 "2014-03-17T01:33:54Z")
Lizzie’s got to go - she’s going to end up killing all of them. So, are they portraying her as perhaps a schizophrenic, or are we to assume that she’s nuts from all that’s she’s been through? And now we definitely know who was feeding walkers at the prison. ETA: And we’re spending a whole freaking episode on these girls and not on any of the characters I actually care about? ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-14/683887/3 "2014-03-17T01:41:04Z")
Holy SHit! :eek: I did not see that coming. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-14/683887/4 "2014-03-17T01:41:28Z")
Oh. My. God. I think I gasped out loud. ETA: Poor Carol. What a thing to have to do. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-14/683887/5 "2014-03-17T01:42:06Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Holy SHit! :eek: I did not see that coming. I did. Not that exactly…but something similar. Girl’s bug-fuck crazy. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-14/683887/6 "2014-03-17T01:45:11Z")
> [@ExTank](#): > > I did. Not that exactly…but something similar. Girl’s bug-fuck crazy. I knew when she said, “I know what I have to do now,” she wasn’t talking about understanding what walkers are all about, but I did not see that coming. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-14/683887/7 "2014-03-17T01:46:24Z")
Poor Carol. That’s two little girls she couldn’t keep safe. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-14/683887/8 "2014-03-17T01:47:23Z")
Yep, Lizzie is completely insane, no question about that now So, now Tyrese and Carol have to deal with two major security risks compromising their safety, LPITA (Judith) who has the uncanny ability to cry at exactly the wrong time and attract walkers, and Crazy Lizzie, who is practically a Quizling at this stage Personally, I wold rather have seen Lizzie perform her “experiment” on LPITA, that’d show beyond a shadow of a doubt that she’d finally snapped… ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-14/683887/9 "2014-03-17T01:53:11Z")
Now that I did not see coming. The Walking Dead is back! ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-14/683887/10 "2014-03-17T01:53:50Z")
The obvious solution for the Lizzie problem is she needs to be put down, humanely, with a minimum of suffering Called it! This is really going to take a toll on Carol, failing to protect her charges… ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-14/683887/11 "2014-03-17T01:54:03Z")
Of all the episodes, this one will give me nightmares. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-14/683887/12 "2014-03-17T01:54:09Z")
[Tyreese’s face when he and Carol confronted Lizzie.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bi5KYoHIYAABs0B.jpg) I call it, “Okay, I’m terrified of all three of you now.” ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-14/683887/13 "2014-03-17T02:01:54Z")
Finally a decent episode, the edge is back, Tyrese forgiving Carol was a bit weak, plot wise, but in line with his character They still have to deal with the tactical risk that is LPITA… ---
**Author:** ![sir\_viks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@sir\_viks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sir_viks)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-14/683887/14 "2014-03-17T02:05:31Z")
BEST EPISODE EVAH! Back-to-back-to-back shocking/“edge of your seat” scenes. Just a well-done episode. An emotional roller coaster. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-14/683887/15 "2014-03-17T02:05:54Z")
Never go walking with one other person in the woods in The Walking Dead - it won’t go well for you. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-14/683887/16 "2014-03-17T02:06:57Z")
> [@MacTech](#): > > Finally a decent episode, the edge is back, Tyrese forgiving Carol was a bit weak, plot wise, but in line with his character > > They still have to deal with the tactical risk that is LPITA… Tyrese “got it;” Carol’s all about “doing what needs to be done.” When she killed/burned the bodies at the prison, she was doing what she thought needed to be done, just as he did with Lizzie. And just as Lizzie was threat that could not be tolerated, the very sick and contagious at the prison were a threat, too. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-14/683887/17 "2014-03-17T02:13:01Z")
My husband pointed out that he liked Tyreese’s speech, too - “I’m not going to kill you; you get to live with what you’ve done, and I know that you’re living with what you’ve done.” ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-14/683887/18 "2014-03-17T02:19:23Z")
I got the impression that Lizzie was disturbed prior to the apocalypse. She and Mika had a calming ritual (look at the flowers, count to three) that I assume predated the crisis. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-14/683887/19 "2014-03-17T02:19:24Z")
A while back I posted this: > [@The Walking Dead; 4.03 "Isolation" (open spoilers)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-03-isolation-open-spoilers/672400/87): > > So, looking back, first we had the Dr at the CDC working on a cure for the zombie virus, then we had Herschel that truly believed that with either prayer or modern medicine the zombies would come back to their human form, then he gave up that notion. Then we met the Governor who kept his daughter locked up in a closet and, IIRC, was hoping that he might eventually get her back, but at the very least strongly felt that she was still in there somewhere. He even had his doctor working on tests to prove that zombies still retain some memory of what they knew before they died. > > Now we’ve got possibly the little girl, but at the very least we’re working on the theory that someone is feeding them. On the one hand a single rat isn’t going to feed hoard of zombies, OTOH, it seems like they always try to keep at least one character (or small group) that thinks that they’re still human but merely sick and need to be treated and it’s just a matter of finding the right treatment. > > Yes? No? I never really thought about this until now, but it seems to make sense. It’ll be interesting to see, assuming I’m correct in this assumption, how long it takes before they have a new member in their group that has a different set of beliefs regarding the walkers. Come to think of it, it’ll be even more interesting if all those people (who, other than Herschel are all dead now I think) end up being right. I did think about that, but the necrotizing flesh tells me it can’t be true. It doesn’t much matter if you can ‘come back’ if you have no lungs, skins and are riddles with bullet holes. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-14/683887/20 "2014-03-17T02:19:42Z")
Was there anything else after Tyrse and Carol walk past the zombie in the tracks? my damn recording cut off after the talking dead promo. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-14/683887.md?page=2)