# The Walking Dead; 4.15 "Us" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 24, 2014, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-15-us-open-spoilers/684402 "2014-03-24T00:49:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-15-us-open-spoilers/684402/41 "2014-03-24T22:56:48Z")
Re: Ellen’s theory…COME ON.(That’s to the writers not Ellen) There has to be food EVERYWHERE. The Earth is devoid of people, and your main threat are shambling bipeds. You guys enjoy ‘dinner’. Me and my baseball bat are going to bicycle down to that house I saw a couple miles back. ---
**Author:** ![GreedySmurf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a698b9/32.png) [@GreedySmurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreedySmurf)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-15-us-open-spoilers/684402/42 "2014-03-25T00:16:23Z")
> [@Ellen\_Cherry](#): > > Daryl is definitely not going with the “guys like us” stuff the rough biker dude is laying on him. Beth just started making him believe that he is a good person; he’s not going to give that up so easily. > > Maybe Terminus is like The Road; they’re luring people in there to (spoiler for The Road) > > eat them. That was my first thought, when the lady said come and get something to eat. Hope you like Soylent Green!! 😃 Maybe I’m a pessimist though. ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-15-us-open-spoilers/684402/43 "2014-03-25T01:00:01Z")
I have a bad feeling about Beth’s fate. They spent a lot of time setting her up as the eternal optimist who believes good still exists. To me, that means she is probably being brutalized somewhere and will turn up traumatized with a completely different outlook. It will then be up to Darryl, the pessimist/realist to bring her back around. ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-15-us-open-spoilers/684402/44 "2014-03-25T03:44:51Z")
Was Terminus lady wearing Beth’s sweater? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-15-us-open-spoilers/684402/45 "2014-03-25T04:21:54Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > Was Terminus lady wearing Beth’s sweater? Doesn’t look it. Beth’s sweater was a solid beige, while Terminyar’s had dark highlights and arrow patterns. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-15-us-open-spoilers/684402/46 "2014-03-25T05:33:14Z")
I think worrying about how or whether they kill the Walkers is besides the point. The Walkers are background, like the weather. They are not central to the story. The story is about the survivors and how they interact with each other. I didn’t notice it, but just watched _Talking Dead_, and Terminus Lady is Tasha Yar, from _STtNG_. Interesting play, since Tasha was security. Doubt that is meaningful, but still interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Alba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ea666f/32.png) [@Alba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alba)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-15-us-open-spoilers/684402/47 "2014-03-25T06:57:07Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > All the women go straight into the Breeding Barns, and all the men get sent out to forage without any weapons that they could use against the regime? I don’t think Terminus will be a place with good people either. My guess is that Beth was kidnapped by people from Terminus and, as **Cat Whisperer** , said used for breeding. I don’t have a lot of faith in the writers to make the Terminus story interesting. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-15-us-open-spoilers/684402/48 "2014-03-25T13:41:07Z")
The dread is built right into the name “terminus” — it’s the end of the line for you now, buddy boy. And so I’m now hearing the name “Terminus” is the voice of the Daleks from _Doctor Who_. TERMINUS! EXTERMINATE! ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-15-us-open-spoilers/684402/49 "2014-03-25T14:37:04Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …I’ve got to admit: I’m loving the characters of Abraham, Rosita and Eugene, and how the writers are contrasting these three characters who haven’t lost their humanity with Joe’s group who obviously have. I wasn’t expecting Eugene to have the balls to take them back to rescue Glenn and Tara: but as a gamer I bet you he would role-play a Lawful Good Paladin: and rescuing people is just what Lawful Good people do. I don’t actually believe that Eugene actually knows anything important: so it will be interesting to see how that plays out. I like the characters, as well. Eugene and Rosita bickering tickled my funny bone! ---
**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-15-us-open-spoilers/684402/50 "2014-03-25T14:41:35Z")
Okay, so I’ll admit that I only kinda watch it when it’s on so I’m not 100% about the details … but didn’t we first hear that Glen and the others drove for something like 2-3 hours from the original scatter point before he woke up? If so, how are they anywhere near where Maggie would be in this episode? Did they backtrack in the car back to where they started? I don’t remember them doing that at all, but it seems strange that they could drive for three hours and in a couple of episodes Glen could just walk back. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-15-us-open-spoilers/684402/51 "2014-03-25T14:52:25Z")
The “scientist” plotline is bothering me though. I mean, it’s so obvious that this guy is bullshitting that it’s impossible to believe that any of the characters would buy his story without significantly more evidence than “it’s classified”. There’s a zombie apocalypse. Nothing is classified anymore. Maybe instead of protecting the one guy who can save the world, we share that knowledge with others just in case? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-15-us-open-spoilers/684402/52 "2014-03-25T15:12:07Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > The “scientist” plotline is bothering me though. I mean, it’s so obvious that this guy is bullshitting that it’s impossible to believe that any of the characters would buy his story without significantly more evidence than “it’s classified”. There’s a zombie apocalypse. Nothing is classified anymore. Maybe instead of protecting the one guy who can save the world, we share that knowledge with others just in case? Totally agreed with every point. This is the most important thing in the history of mankind; tell everyone you meet. Write it on the side of buildings, for heaven’s sake. _Don’t_ keep all the information in one squishy, out-of-shape nerd. Having Eugene’s story be complete bullshit does seem awfully obvious. Abraham and Rosita aren’t stupid - what are we missing here? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-15-us-open-spoilers/684402/53 "2014-03-25T16:23:16Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Totally agreed with every point. This is the most important thing in the history of mankind; tell everyone you meet. Write it on the side of buildings, for heaven’s sake. _Don’t_ keep all the information in one squishy, out-of-shape nerd. > > Having Eugene’s story be complete bullshit does seem awfully obvious. Abraham and Rosita aren’t stupid - what are we missing here? ‘they want to believe’ - its faith/mission - something to focus on. That and who wouldnt follow the guy that thinks this might have been what caused the fall of the dinosaurs and wants to see zombie dino’s fighting it out? What kind of gamer are you, anwyay? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-15-us-open-spoilers/684402/54 "2014-03-25T16:43:42Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Having Eugene’s story be complete bullshit does seem awfully obvious. Abraham and Rosita aren’t stupid - what are we missing here? If they are truly US military, they are working under orders. ---
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-15-us-open-spoilers/684402/55 "2014-03-25T19:06:26Z")
Haven’t they seen _The Abyss_? Geez. All military objectives go out the window when you’re faced with a Russian Water Tentacle. ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-15-us-open-spoilers/684402/56 "2014-03-25T20:17:29Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Totally agreed with every point. This is the most important thing in the history of mankind; tell everyone you meet. Write it on the side of buildings, for heaven’s sake. _Don’t_ keep all the information in one squishy, out-of-shape nerd. > > Having Eugene’s story be complete bullshit does seem awfully obvious. Abraham and Rosita aren’t stupid - what are we missing here? Let’s say you’re that squishy out-of-shape nerd. The second you share that information, you are expendable. The only thing ensuring that the big army guy is protecting you is that secrecy of knowledge. Whether it’s BS or not - Eugene is smart. He knows he’s not surviving on his own. ---
**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-15-us-open-spoilers/684402/57 "2014-03-25T20:17:40Z")
> [@VunderBob](#): > > Are the producers getting all this abandoned industrial property to use as sets because it’s so cheap? Georgia, heck pretty much all of southeast US, is covered with abandoned textile mills and furniture plants. Can’t swing a zombie cat without hitting one. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-15-us-open-spoilers/684402/58 "2014-03-25T20:34:45Z")
> [@brewha](#): > > Let’s say you’re that squishy out-of-shape nerd. The second you share that information, you are expendable. The only thing ensuring that the big army guy is protecting you is that secrecy of knowledge. > > Whether it’s BS or not - Eugene is smart. He knows he’s not surviving on his own. I don’t have any problem with his motivation, it’s the motivation of the people around him who don’t question his obvious bullshit story, and have made it their life mission to protect him despite absolutely no evidence that he is telling the truth, and ample evidence that he’s full of crap. “It’s classified.” should not be an acceptable answer. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-15-us-open-spoilers/684402/59 "2014-03-25T20:41:59Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > I don’t have any problem with his motivation, it’s the motivation of the people around him who don’t question his obvious bullshit story, and have made it their life mission to protect him despite absolutely no evidence that he is telling the truth, and ample evidence that he’s full of crap. “It’s classified.” should not be an acceptable answer. As I said, if they are truly military, they are acting under orders. That’s probably the only structure they have to hold on to. ---
**Author:** ![XanderCrews](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ee59a6/32.png) [@XanderCrews](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XanderCrews)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2014, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-15-us-open-spoilers/684402/60 "2014-03-25T22:13:06Z")
Am I the only one who is thinking Jonestown Death Cult? That place was empty, and not just empty as in the people are out foraging. Empty as if no one lives there except for that woman. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-15-us-open-spoilers/684402.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-4-15-us-open-spoilers/684402.md?page=4)