# The Walking Dead; 5.01 "No Santuary" (open spoilers)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 12, 2014, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149 "2014-10-12T22:35:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2014, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/1 "2014-10-12T22:35:40Z")

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Season premiere tonight. You can see the first 4 minutes [here](http://www.amctv.com/the-walking-dead/videos/the-first-4-minutes-of-season-5-the-walking-dead). Messrs’ Scott M. Gimple, Greg Nicotero, & _Conan O’Brien_ are on **Talking Dead**.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/2 "2014-10-13T01:24:09Z")

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If the opening was THEN, does that mean Terminus used to be good, but was overrun by bad folks?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/3 "2014-10-13T01:39:01Z")

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Guess so.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/4 "2014-10-13T01:46:53Z")

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Uh, why doesn’t Tyrese kill zombies anymore?

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/5 "2014-10-13T01:49:37Z")

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i guess tyresse is still dealing with the fall out from the little girls.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/6 "2014-10-13T01:54:39Z")

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Ok, I admit it. That reunion made me cry.

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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/7 "2014-10-13T02:02:26Z")

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Holy frak! That was awesome! If the rest of the season is as good we’re in for a great season.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/8 "2014-10-13T02:09:08Z")

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That really felt like it should’ve been the last episode of last season rather than the first of a new one.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/9 "2014-10-13T02:11:26Z")

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Is that it for Terminus? They didn’t fully kill the main dude.

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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/10 "2014-10-13T02:13:30Z")

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I was thinking that too. I wonder whether some Terminus guys will show up later.

Will Rick be proven right that they should have finished them off and been certain?

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**Author:** ![Roundabout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/dec6dc/32.png) [@Roundabout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roundabout)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/11 "2014-10-13T02:15:56Z")

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That was the single best episode of this show I’ve seen in years. Practically no filler, some decent action and tension, and an actual episode’s worth of plot. Very well done.

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**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/12 "2014-10-13T02:24:29Z")

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Great episode! Are we taking bets on how long until Michonne gets a new katana?

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/13 "2014-10-13T02:28:26Z")

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so barbie mary was gareth’s mother?! wow. nice to know they were equal opportunity long pork eaters, turns out that was gareth’s brother being butchered. waste not; want not.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/14 "2014-10-13T02:33:47Z")

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Wait, there was a post credits scene? I turned it off to avoid the “next time” preview I hate to see.

Shoot.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/15 "2014-10-13T02:44:29Z")

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I agree that, hard as it was to look at in some places, that was a well-done episode.

That first scene was a little too close to the recent ISIS beheadings for comfort.

For Mahaloth: yep, there was a brief post-cred scene, featuring a ‘fan favorite’ according to the WD site, but I didn’t recognize the character.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/16 "2014-10-13T02:46:10Z")

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My recording cut off at the post credits scene. Can anyone tell me who was behind the mask? Recording ended just as the person was pulling it off.

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**Author:** ![wedgehed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8edcca/32.png) [@wedgehed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wedgehed)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/17 "2014-10-13T02:51:39Z")

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It’s our old friend Morgan.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/18 "2014-10-13T02:55:52Z")

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> [@wedgehed](#):
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> It’s our old friend Morgan.

Thank you!

Also now knowing the full story of Terminus makes it a tragic figure. I’m an optimist and was always in the Dale (remember him?) spectrum of morality. It disturbs me to see that side proven wrong again and again in the show.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/19 "2014-10-13T02:59:58Z")

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I thought the episode was great. The one thing that really bothered me was that last season ended with Rick’s implicit promise of some ass-kicking, yet there they were, impotent, hog-tied and bent over the trough. If not for some deus ex machina (×3), Glenn would have been conked.

Otherwise, that was just a little hiccup in a good episode.

ETA: I wonder if the doubters from last season still aren’t convinced that they were cannibals. 🙂

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**Author:** ![wedgehed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8edcca/32.png) [@wedgehed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wedgehed)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/20 "2014-10-13T03:10:56Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> I thought the episode was great. The one thing that really bothered me was that last season ended with Rick’s implicit promise of some ass-kicking, yet there they were, impotent, hog-tied and bent over the trough. If not for some deus ex machina (×3), Glenn would have been conked.
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> Otherwise, that was just a little hiccup in a good episode.
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> ETA: I wonder if the doubters from last season still aren’t convinced that they were cannibals. 🙂

They definitely pushed Rick’s button though. Seeing him back shoot the Termites & leaving the wounded for the walkers is something new for him.

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