# The Walking Dead; 5.01 "No Santuary" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 12, 2014, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149 "2014-10-12T22:35:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/81 "2014-10-14T01:09:08Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > It only took 5 seasons, but finally someone just came out, grabbed another person and said “are you a zombie?”. To which Rick said “no”. They killed him afterwards, but still, it was a lot easier then getting all weird about everything. I’ve been saying they should do that since the I started watching this show. Ah, _that’s_ what the crazy guy said to Rick! I didn’t get that on the first go-round. > [@brewha](#): > > \ > And Glenn just kneels there waiting? That’s his plan - to go out without a fight? \ If they really, REALLY wanted to fuck with us, they would have offed Glen then. “See? No one is safe!” > [@simster](#): > > \ > I actually thought that was the smartest thing anyone has done on this show - and I loved the visual of the zombies. Carol was beyond awesome. She handled things just about perfectly - I wasn’t yelling at the screen to not be so stupid once! (And my favourite moment from the episode - Daryl saying to Carol, “Did you do that?” and Carol replying “Yes.”) > [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Was anyone struck with the similarity to Nazi death camps? The piles of watches and other possessions. > [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > Yes. I commented to my husband. Train cars, too. I did not before, but I am now. Damn. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/82 "2014-10-14T01:59:16Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > having rewatched, i’m still a bit baffled. when did they have time to clean up before digging up the bag? and where did they clean up? was there a lake or a creek i missed? I noticed that too, or at least I noticed that Carol was spotless. The identical mud that seems to show up everywhere it conveniently needs to be was 100% gone from her face as well as all the zombie blood. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/83 "2014-10-14T02:04:36Z")
Carol is \*that \*good. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/84 "2014-10-14T02:18:21Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > …It’s more like an easter egg for those who recognize him. Agreed, pure Easter egg. Nothing to do with the plot. > [@Quimby](#): > > Only news on the spin off I have seen is that it is set in the early days of the Zombie plague which, if they have to do a non anthology show, is probably the best setting for a spin off. Makes it feel different. Personally I’ve always wanted to see a zombie apocalypse done from the perspective from “the authorities” rather than the man on the ground, but I can see how that would be very hard to pull off. I’ll settle for going back to the start of the outbreak though. Though if they’re going back to the beginning what’s the point of filming in Detroit, most the of city already looks like the apocalypse hit. 😛 > [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Was anyone struck with the similarity to Nazi death camps? The piles > of watches and other possessions. Yes, the only way the parallel could’ve been more blatant would be if the Termites made the cattle strip first. > [@levdrakon](#): > > …They did leave the door open for a teensy bit of sympathy by showing us how they were being treated by the marauders that took Terminus from them. I think the pile of stuffed animals bricked that door up tight. Whatever happened to them at the hands of the marauders every last Termite deservers eradication. :eek: _Nothing_ could possibly justify that kind of evil. They are utterly beyond redemption. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/85 "2014-10-14T02:25:44Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > I think the pile of stuffed animals bricked that door up tight. Whatever happened to them at the hands of the marauders every last Termite deservers eradication. :eek: _Nothing_ could possibly justify that kind of evil. They are utterly beyond redemption. Yes. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/86 "2014-10-14T02:30:15Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Personally I’ve always wanted to see a zombie apocalypse done from the perspective from “the authorities” rather than the man on the ground, but I can see how that would be very hard to pull off. I’ll settle for going back to the start of the outbreak though. Though if they’re going back to the beginning what’s the point of filming in Detroit, most the of city already looks like the apocalypse hit. 😛 Who would ‘the authorities’ be? I’m not sure I understand that. As for Detroit, if it’s not just a random city, I could see it being used because it’s got the Big Three car companies there which would give them three huge compounds to work with. I mean, any blue collar town will have huge factories, hell, any white collar town will have office buildings, so I don’t know what’s special about Detroit. Maybe an unlimited supply of cars? ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/87 "2014-10-14T02:38:11Z")
> [@Cyros](#): > > I thought it was a memorial to those at terminus that died when the baddies took over. I’d say it also served as a reminder of why they do what they do. Pretty sick twist on “Never Again”… ---
**Author:** ![Jamicat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c67d28/32.png) [@Jamicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jamicat)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/88 "2014-10-14T02:38:11Z")
1 hour?..Premier should be 2 hours dammit…Just a tease… -.- I got a chance to get caught up from day one. Over a few weekends. Im not even a fan, but I saw a few things, that were in question, it was obvious, if you were listening. I miss Andrea. :mad: Carol, cool. Beth? hmm Im sure there’s more backtracking in this later on…I hope…it closes gaps in continuity. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/89 "2014-10-14T02:47:11Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > I mean, any blue collar town will have huge factories, hell, any white collar town will have office buildings, so I don’t know what’s special about Detroit. Maybe an unlimited supply of cars? My guess is that Detroit is desperate enough for business that your production can get huge tax incentives. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/90 "2014-10-14T02:51:33Z")
Continuity error at the end… Tyreese comes out of the cabin and closes the door. In all the reunion shots, the door is wide open. End of the scene, no one has gone near the cabin, door is closed tight. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/91 "2014-10-14T03:01:51Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > As for Detroit, if it’s not just a random city, I could see it being used because it’s got the Big Three car companies there which would give them three huge compounds to work with. > I mean, any blue collar town will have huge factories, hell, any white collar town will have office buildings, so I don’t know what’s special about Detroit. Maybe an unlimited supply of cars? One news story I read said that they want to use abandoned areas of Detroit. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/92 "2014-10-14T03:20:12Z")
No way I’d spend a winter in Detroit. It should freeze the zombies stiff, but I’m sure it won’t. So, I’m outta there and heading someplace warm. ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_Hey\_Paula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hey\_Hey\_Paula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_Hey_Paula)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/93 "2014-10-14T03:21:43Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Was anyone struck with the similarity to Nazi death camps? The piles of watches and other possessions. The pile of stuffed animals got to me. They were eating children too? :mad:☹ ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_Hey\_Paula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hey\_Hey\_Paula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_Hey_Paula)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/94 "2014-10-14T03:25:03Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > I noticed that too, or at least I noticed that Carol was spotless. The identical mud that seems to show up everywhere it conveniently needs to be was 100% gone from her face as well as all the zombie blood. There were streaks of mud on her neck and still in her hair a bit. She just washed her face, and was glowing with the zombie-blood-mud-mask effect. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/95 "2014-10-14T03:27:14Z")
> [@Hey\_Hey\_Paula](#): > > The pile of stuffed animals got to me. They were eating children too? :mad:☹ Veal. Yes, Rick should have persisted, gone back and killed them all. I think he shot the head bad guy; he fell over, or was blown over in the unrealistic TV way people are shot. He is too good a villain for the writers not to use him again. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/96 "2014-10-14T03:37:25Z")
Well, brainwashing the children into murderous cannibals is worse isn’t it? Killing the children is probably merciful. ---
**Author:** ![Jamicat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c67d28/32.png) [@Jamicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jamicat)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/97 "2014-10-14T03:45:19Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Well, brainwashing the children into murderous cannibals is worse isn’t it? Killing the children is probably merciful. They missed out on the…BABBY FUD. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/98 "2014-10-14T04:01:26Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > When bugged me more than anything as unbelievable is that Carol spent all that time lining up her shot, with a scope, and taking two or three shots to hit the giant LP tank but managed to hit the plume of propane, not just with one randomly aimed bottle rocket, but she set it up beforehand, she didn’t even know where the puncture was going to be. She at least could have adjusted the bottle rocket a little afterwards to make it look somewhat realistic, or give her a roman candle that she could aim. I questioned the likelihood of there still being propane in that tank… ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/99 "2014-10-14T04:08:10Z")
Popping the tank and then igniting the gas? That’s some real Wile E. Coyote shit right there. I didn’t recognize the blond guy at the end of the trough, and thus figured (correctly) that he was going to be the anonymous redshirt that was going to be sacrificed to show how much trouble the established characters were in. Then I didn’t recognize the next guy, or the two guys after that, so it’s redshirts almost all the way down. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149/100 "2014-10-14T10:14:12Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Then I didn’t recognize the next guy, or the two guys after that, so it’s redshirts almost all the way down. It was [Ensign Ricky](http://bcmoney-mobiletv.com/view/915/family-guy-ensign-ricky/). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-01-no-santuary-open-spoilers/701149.md?page=6)