# The Walking Dead; 5.02 "Strangers" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 20, 2014, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-02-strangers-open-spoilers/701868 "2014-10-20T00:12:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-02-strangers-open-spoilers/701868/181 "2014-10-22T13:04:31Z")
I saw his leg and foot, cooking on a piece of wire fence, over the fire. It was cut off, definitely. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-02-strangers-open-spoilers/701868/182 "2014-10-22T13:21:04Z")
> [@kiz](#): > > Did anyone catch that the zombie with the glasses was the woman in the photograph with Gabriel? Yes, it must have been one of the people he locked out. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-02-strangers-open-spoilers/701868/183 "2014-10-22T16:47:01Z")
> [@GrumpyBunny](#): > > Half the people I know from that area can convert an AR-15 to fully auto without too much trouble. You can do it in a few minutes if you have the parts. If you have to make the parts, it would be more problematic. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-02-strangers-open-spoilers/701868/184 "2014-10-22T17:26:25Z")
> [@grude](#): > > Canned goods remain edible(assuming proper canning) for at least a decade, maybe more. Some foods will have a bad texture or color or otherwise breakdown(mostly veggies and fruits) but they are still edible years past the exp. date. > > Cans go bad either immediately or only when the seal is breached via rust etc. Bad cans are obvious through rust or bloating. > > The risk of botulism is way overblown, assuming the cans seal has not rusted through or bloated. Modern canned goods have a plastic coating inside the can to stop it rusting from the inside out(ever wondered why cans are white inside). > > EDIT:Michonne’s wig is looking absurdly fake, but it really has from day one. They even have her wear a bandana where you’d see the hairline. I asked one question. You answered an entirely different one. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-02-strangers-open-spoilers/701868/185 "2014-10-22T19:12:05Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > Hmm, I wonder if a BB gun would be enough to kill a zombie. Very little noise, and a pocket sized container could hold thousands of rounds. Have we seen anybody use air guns before? With how squishy the heads are, now I’m thinking that they missed a real opportunity for Carl. The perfect weapon for him would be a [wrist rocket](https://www.google.com/search?q=wrist+rocket&newwindow=1&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=GAFIVKXXJZaeyATc-YHQDQ&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAg&biw=1408&bih=710). ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-02-strangers-open-spoilers/701868/186 "2014-10-22T19:31:41Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > With how squishy the heads are, now I’m thinking that they missed a real opportunity for Carl. The perfect weapon for him would be a [wrist rocket](https://www.google.com/search?q=wrist+rocket&newwindow=1&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=GAFIVKXXJZaeyATc-YHQDQ&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAg&biw=1408&bih=710). And ball bearings or round sinkers. Bait shops and auto parts places for ammo. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-02-strangers-open-spoilers/701868/187 "2014-10-23T13:28:42Z")
> [@kiz](#): > > Did anyone catch that the zombie with the glasses was the woman in the photograph with Gabriel? I think (spoiler because that might be something from the novels): that the zombie with the glasses was his wife. A friend who’s read the novels mentioned this. Or it could be crap. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-02-strangers-open-spoilers/701868/188 "2014-10-23T13:49:48Z")
> [@Furious\_Marmot](#): > > One of the drawbacks to cannibalism is that any pathogen or parasite in the victim can infect the killer, which is not always the case in interspecies predation. Between the seasons, I wondered if they would depict the Terminus people as suffering from some kind of prion disease, like kuru. They’re apparently not going that way, though. I was thinking more [“rabbit starvation.”](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit_starvation) ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-02-strangers-open-spoilers/701868/189 "2014-10-23T14:21:57Z")
> [@GrumpyBunny](#): > > Half the people I know from that area can convert an AR-15 to fully auto without too much trouble. Why bother? Besides the targeting and ammo-conservation arguments, there are (or should be) full-auto all the way up to 50’s just laying around. Or Glenn could sit on the unopened cases of them while carving a sword out of a rotten tree limb. :rolleyes: > [@brewha](#): > > I had the opportunity to fire a fully automatic Thompson that had been converted to use .22 shells. It had a 100 round drum magazine. The drum magazines are infamously troublesome even with “square” .45 rounds. Unless it has some hella 21st century engineering, flared .22s are going to be even less reliable. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-02-strangers-open-spoilers/701868/190 "2014-10-23T14:49:24Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > The drum magazines are infamously troublesome even with “square” .45 rounds. Unless it has some hella 21st century engineering, flared .22s are going to be even less reliable. I have a .22 Ruger than manages to jam often. A friend of mine reflected that “The .22 LR was never intended to be used in a semi automatic pistol”, although they do well for me in rifles. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-02-strangers-open-spoilers/701868/191 "2014-10-23T20:12:02Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I have a .22 Ruger than manages to jam often. A friend of mine reflected that “The .22 LR was never intended to be used in a semi automatic pistol”, although they do well for me in rifles. Is it a Mk. II pistol? What brand of ammunition do you use? Ruger Mk. II pistols have (according to the guy at Ruger I talked to over a decade ago) a ‘target’ chamber, which is tighter than what they use in their rifles and what other makers use in their guns. My Mk. II jams a lot, but the 10/22s never do. I have been advised to not use Remington ammunition. I have a box of Winchester, but I haven’t been shooting in a few years to test it out. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-02-strangers-open-spoilers/701868/192 "2014-10-23T20:43:14Z")
It’s a [45/22](http://www.spokanister.net/images_web/Guns/22-45/22-45_MkIII-001a.jpg). I haven’t found any difference in ammo, and I use Walmart’s Finest. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-02-strangers-open-spoilers/701868/193 "2014-10-23T21:12:01Z")
You might try a different brand of ammunition. I’ve heard Winchester is good in Ruger pistols. I have some Winchester (I think) in a 555-round box. It has a bit ‘555’ on it, anyway. . ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-02-strangers-open-spoilers/701868/194 "2014-10-23T21:57:14Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > You might try a different brand of ammunition. I’ve heard Winchester is good in Ruger pistols. I have some Winchester (I think) in a 555-round box. It has a bit ‘555’ on it, anyway. Now that I am home, I bought Federal at WalMart, and CCI mini mags that the guy at the gun shop recommended. I’ll try Winchester, thanks! ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-02-strangers-open-spoilers/701868/195 "2014-10-23T23:06:27Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > It would be hard to justify only Michonne grabbing a sword from such a store, as opposed to everyone in the group. A sword is about as good as it gets vs zombies, in that it’s much easier to carry around with you than a halberd or a pike. And if fighting a large group of zombies I think I’d rather have a sword than a polearm. Swords are great and all, but require some skill. I’d honestly think an ax would be a better choice unless you actually have some training. Not like a battleaxe or anything, just like a regular wood or fire ax, and those should be a lot easier to find than swords. After axes, well really anything with some heft to it. Baseball bats, shovels, etc. All better than guns most of the time. Still, better keep a pistol handy in case one manages to tackle you. Hard to swing something while you’re wrestling for your life with a zomber, but you might be able to get a shot off if you can reach the gun. Someone on Talking Dead asked who’d win in a race between Herschel and Bob. I was disappointed that none of the guests (or Hardwick) said that Herschel would come out \*\*_ahead_. ---
**Author:** ![Algernon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@Algernon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algernon)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2014, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-02-strangers-open-spoilers/701868/196 "2014-10-24T13:19:45Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > I was thinking more [“rabbit starvation.”](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit_starvation) Interesting. Thanks for the link. I had never heard of Rabbit Starvation until now. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2014, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-02-strangers-open-spoilers/701868/197 "2014-10-24T13:48:04Z")
> [@kiz](#): > > Did anyone catch that the zombie with the glasses was the woman in the photograph with Gabriel? No way! > [@](#): > > I finally caught the episode On Demand yesterday while trying not to read this thread. I had no idea Gareth’s crew was already munching on Bob’s leg at the end there…or to me it was so subtle that I didn’t automatically make the connection (I’m presuming they just sliced pieces from his calf or thigh because Bob otherwise wouldn’t still be alive…?) Yes, that was very subtle. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2014, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-02-strangers-open-spoilers/701868/198 "2014-10-24T14:15:32Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Now that I am home, I bought Federal at WalMart, and CCI mini mags that the guy at the gun shop recommended. I’ll try Winchester, thanks! No that I’m at home, the ‘555’ ammo is Winchester. I haven’t tried it yet. Haven’t been shooting since the SO moved in. When I was having trouble feeding the Remington, I was advised to use Winchester; specifically the kind sold at Wal-Mart in 555-round boxes. Since I almost never go to Wal-Mart, I put it off for a while. Then Obama was going to take all of our guns and then give us Ebola, and you couldn’t find _any_ common calibers. I wish I could give you a user report. ---
**Author:** ![Soylent\_Juicy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Soylent\_Juicy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soylent_Juicy)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2014, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-02-strangers-open-spoilers/701868/199 "2014-10-24T14:45:19Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > I thought Bob was going to have the stereotypical zombie bite that he was hiding from everyone else Haven’t read the whole thread yet so not sure if it’s been mentioned, but somebody posted a screenshot of Bob’s severed foot on the BBQ to Imgur that showed what looked like teeth marks on it. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2014, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-02-strangers-open-spoilers/701868/200 "2014-10-24T16:53:23Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > Swords are great and all, but require some skill. I’d honestly think an ax would be a better choice unless you actually have some training. Not like a battleaxe or anything, just like a regular wood or fire ax, and those should be a lot easier to find than swords. My thinking was that first and foremost, I’d want a piercing weapon. So if no sword is available, the suggestion upthread about a piece of sharpened rebar would be ideal. I would ideally prefer it to be a straight weapon, as opposed to a curved katana, specifically for the piercing effect. The slashing component, for hacking away zombie limbs in a pinch, would be a secondary consideration. But still a consideration, which is why I think a piercing sword with a sharpened edge would be the perfect weapon. An axe would be good, but without the functionality of a piercing weapon it would be less effective in close quarters. Or through a chain link fence. Something like [this](http://www.zornhau.de/wordpress/wp-content/gallery/honhardt/torstenschwert.jpg) would be my zombie-killing wet dream, though it might be just a touch too long. Short enough to be stored in a scabbard on my hip or back for travel would also be a high priority. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-02-strangers-open-spoilers/701868.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-02-strangers-open-spoilers/701868.md?page=11)