# The Walking Dead; 5.06 "Consumed" (open spoilers)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 17, 2014, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818 "2014-11-17T00:33:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/41 "2014-11-18T04:39:37Z")

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It’s raining dead men.

Hallelujah.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/42 "2014-11-18T04:48:29Z")

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I don’t like these split up episodes. Bring the group back together. That’s what makes this show interesting-- the group dynamics.

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**Author:** ![Elemenopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b5e925/32.png) [@Elemenopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elemenopy)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/43 "2014-11-18T04:55:06Z")

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I admit that I haven’t watched this season with my full attention, but the biggest thing niggling me is…why were Carol, Darryl, and Beth (separately or together) headed toward Atlanta? That made it seem like all the events of the last 4 seasons took place in the ATL suburbs, which wasn’t the impression I had at all.

Forgive me if I am stoopid. 😛

This also felt like a wasted episode to me. I liked the last one much better.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/44 "2014-11-18T05:24:12Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Take that, nitpickers! She took the poncho off. And wiped her face.

It sort of felt like that was the purpose of that back story fill in. I was excited to see what Carol did during her banishment, and it was interesting to see her reveal the sorrow of it. Then it was pretty boring stuff. She holed up somewhere. She saw smoke. Yeah.

Fans of this show seem to think that “character development” means “anytime it’s quiet and two people are talking.”

The writers of the show seem to think that character development means “anytime two people talk about the challenge of what it means, morally, to kill for survival.” Thankfully we will have the opportunity for each character to comment on that multiple times.

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/45 "2014-11-18T06:04:19Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> \<snip\>  
> The writers of the show seem to think that character development means “anytime two people talk about the challenge of what it means, morally, to kill for survival.” \<snip\>

And say something that they think sounds deep and pithy, but actually doesn’t really make any sense.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/46 "2014-11-18T06:25:32Z")

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> [@Elemenopy](#):
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> I admit that I haven’t watched this season with my full attention, but the biggest thing niggling me is…why were Carol, Darryl, and Beth (separately or together) headed toward Atlanta? That made it seem like all the events of the last 4 seasons took place in the ATL suburbs, which wasn’t the impression I had at all.
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> Forgive me if I am stoopid. 😛
> 
> This also felt like a wasted episode to me. I liked the last one much better.

Doesn’t seem like they’ve ventured very far. Maybe an hour or so drive? I always thought it was weird back when they found the prison and Rick didn’t seem to have known about it. I’d figure a cop would know the local prisons, and the whole area pretty well. They always act like they’ve never been to each new town before.

Kinda seems like the group has given up on the whole settling down thing and now they’re a bit marauder themselves, but not as evil. Just don’t mess with their friends.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/47 "2014-11-18T13:08:13Z")

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Which brings up the question: Does our group take over the hospital (after killing everyone, of course), or do they burn it to the ground?

A couple thing occurred to me that I forgot to mention right after it aired:

Noah makes a third black guy, which as we know is unacceptable for TWD, so one of them has to die by the midseason finale. My money’s on Tyreese, because he’s basically just a surrogate Beth taking care of Judith in her absence. With Beth about to be rescued, his role will be gone. The preacher is all-around useless, so my guess is he sticks around for a while. Unless we already know and like Noah enough that it would hurt to see him die, I think it has to be Tyreese.

On another note, until Carol wakes up, Beth will have no reason to think she’s part of Rick’s group. So for all Beth knows, it’s just her and Carol, and the rest of the group has probably already given up on them like they all quickly gave up on Andrea.

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/48 "2014-11-18T13:35:40Z")

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> [@salinqmind](#):
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> I can think of a few negatives. Zombie hordes…Can everybody KEEP UP peddling bikes for miles and miles all day, every day?..How about simply transporting stuff - guns, food, bedding, whatever - in search of the next ‘sanctuary’? They must be carrying a lot of scavenged goods with them, what are they supposed to do, put it in saddlebags, or backpacks?..How far could they get by bike in one day, and where do they sleep at the end of a trip, to be safe? They can sleep in cars and trucks, but bicycles offer no protection from zombie hordes.

I don’t watch hardly at all…just noticed the two on foot before they got in that van and remarked, “Biking has got to be faster.”

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**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/49 "2014-11-18T15:55:17Z")

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> [@Elemenopy](#):
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> I admit that I haven’t watched this season with my full attention, but the biggest thing niggling me is…why were Carol, Darryl, and Beth (separately or together) headed toward Atlanta? That made it seem like all the events of the last 4 seasons took place in the ATL suburbs, which wasn’t the impression I had at all.
> 
> Forgive me if I am stoopid. 😛
> 
> This also felt like a wasted episode to me. I liked the last one much better.

Beth was taken to Atlanta by the police who saved/kidnapped her are based in an Atlanta hospital. It was noted that they’d had to head further and further out to scavenge for supplies, so their encounter with Beth at the funeral home didn’t necessarily take place in the Atlanta suburbs.

Daryl and Carol went to Atlanta because they spotted a car with the same markings (a white cross on the rear glass) as the one that took Beth, and followed it; the car was Atlanta-bound.

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/50 "2014-11-18T15:58:15Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> I chuckled when they explicitly showed Carol take off her blood and guts poncho after the Terminus encounter. During that entirely pointless and very short scene, I started counting how many episodes have aired this season to see if this episode might have been shot after the season premiere. As in, was that scene included solely in response to complaints that Carol got magically clean after covering herself in zombie guts? hehheh.

Yeah, that seemed like such an odd choice! Why flashback to that scene? It did not make any sense to me.

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/51 "2014-11-18T17:49:20Z")

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> [@gytalf2000](#):
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> Yeah, that seemed like such an odd choice! Why flashback to that scene? It did not make any sense to me.

Artistic purposes; the column of smoke rising from Terminus, along with all the other flashbacks to shots of smoke, were in reference to Carol’s remarks about herself being repeatedly consumed and remade since the ZA began.

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/52 "2014-11-18T20:28:44Z")

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Anyone else thinking Carol is being set up to take out Officer Dawn? I’m betting that the abuse victim is going to take out Beth’s abuser. Daryl will bring Rick & Co. in to help with the clean up at the last minute.  
Then they’ll find a cache of bicycles & ride off together. Or stay at the hospital till next season.

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/53 "2014-11-18T21:14:19Z")

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> [@PlumBob](#):
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> Or stay at the hospital till next season.

As someone already mentioned, they will either burn it to the ground or over run it with zombies.  
🙂

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/54 "2014-11-18T23:57:15Z")

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I agree that from the POV of the characters, the van should have hit front down. Plus it was terrible strategy. I can’t believe that a fall from that height (even with seat belts) wouldn’t have placed their rectums in their throats and either killed them or broken bones.

Walking away limping makes no sense from after a fall from that height.

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/55 "2014-11-19T01:09:52Z")

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> [@jtgain](#):
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> I agree that from the POV of the characters, the van should have hit front down. Plus it was terrible strategy. I can’t believe that a fall from that height (even with seat belts) wouldn’t have placed their rectums in their throats and either killed them or broken bones.

I didn’t like that the van was clearly going down nose-first. Indeed, it was rotating onto its back. And yet, it landed on its wheels. The SO said, ‘Does that van have helicopter seats?’ (The seats in helicopters are designed to collapse in a hard landing.)

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/56 "2014-11-19T01:39:05Z")

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> [@PlumBob](#):
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> Anyone else thinking Carol is being set up to take out Officer Dawn? I’m betting that the abuse victim is going to take out Beth’s abuser. Daryl will bring Rick & Co. in to help with the clean up at the last minute.  
> Then they’ll find a cache of bicycles & ride off together. Or stay at the hospital till next season.

And neither Dawn or her officers will ever see it coming. Carol will act like a meek housewife, grateful to be rescued, until it’s her time to strike.

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/57 "2014-11-19T01:47:13Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> And neither Dawn or her officers will ever see it coming. Carol will act like a meek housewife, grateful to be rescued, until it’s her time to strike.

I wouldn’t count on Carol going back to being the meek abused victim, acting or not. It’s Beth’s turn to grow up, as it were.

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/58 "2014-11-19T03:44:53Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> I wouldn’t count on Carol going back to being the meek abused victim, acting or not. It’s Beth’s turn to grow up, as it were.

They spent a lot of time on Carol being abused.

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/59 "2014-11-19T05:26:51Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> That was good enough episode. The dialogue could have been a little meatier. Who had the “Surviving Childhood Abuse” book in their backpack?

Daryl had noticed the book in Carol’s pack.

According to a viewer tweet on the Talking Dead (about 0:38), Hershel gave the book (“Surviving Childhood Abuse”) to Lizzie (Samuels?) and that is why (probably?) Carol kept it.

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**Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/60 "2014-11-19T06:11:12Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Daryl had noticed the book in Carol’s pack.
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> According to a viewer tweet on the Talking Dead (about 0:38), Hershel gave the book (“Surviving Childhood Abuse”) to Lizzie (Samuels?) and that is why (probably?) Carol kept it.

I rewatched the scene. Carol had her backpack on and it looked like the book fell out of Daryl’s stuff. I think Daryl took it because he was an abused kid.

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