# The Walking Dead; 5.06 "Consumed" (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 17, 2014, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818 "2014-11-17T00:33:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/61 "2014-11-19T12:05:49Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > According to a viewer tweet on the Talking Dead (about 0:38), Hershel gave the book (“Surviving Childhood Abuse”) to Lizzie (Samuels?) and that is why (probably?) Carol kept it. They were talking about the Mark Twain book, not the abuse book. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/62 "2014-11-19T12:35:44Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Daryl had noticed the book in Carol’s pack. > > According to a viewer tweet on the Talking Dead (about 0:38), Hershel gave the book (“Surviving Childhood Abuse”) to Lizzie (Samuels?) and that is why (probably?) Carol kept it. The abuse book was seen in the room at the woman’s shelter (on a table or the bed) that Daryl and Carol were staying in. Daryl picked it up there. It fell from his pack. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/63 "2014-11-19T12:56:25Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > On another note, until Carol wakes up, Beth will have no reason to think she’s part of Rick’s group. So for all Beth knows, it’s just her and Carol, and the rest of the group has probably already given up on them like they all quickly gave up on Andrea. Now that I think more about it, it’s even worse than that. As far as Beth knows, everyone is dead except maybe Daryl and (now, obviously) Carol. It’s not just that Beth disappeared before Carol rejoined the group. Beth disappeared during the prison exodus after the tank attack, when everyone was scattered to the winds. She and Daryl were together, but at the time of her kidnapping neither of them had any idea where anyone else was. They hadn’t even seen signs for Terminus yet, I don’t think. So it’s not just that she’ll think Carol isn’t with the group. She’s probably thinking that the group itself doesn’t even exist anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/64 "2014-11-19T13:07:49Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Now that I think more about it, it’s even worse than that. > > As far as Beth knows, everyone is dead except maybe Daryl and (now, obviously) Carol. It’s not just that Beth disappeared before Carol rejoined the group. Beth disappeared during the prison exodus after the tank attack, when everyone was scattered to the winds. She and Daryl were together, but at the time of her kidnapping neither of them had any idea where anyone else was. They hadn’t even seen signs for Terminus yet, I don’t think. > > So it’s not just that she’ll think Carol isn’t with the group. She’s probably thinking that the group itself doesn’t even exist anymore. She was split off from the group and may have lost hope of finding them. Why would she think they got wiped out? ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/65 "2014-11-19T14:01:33Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > She was split off from the group and may have lost hope of finding them. Why would she think they got wiped out? Not that they all died, more that none of them ever managed to find each other. The only reason they hooked back up in the first place was Terminus, which I don’t think Beth saw any signs for. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/66 "2014-11-19T14:45:18Z")
There was so much stupidity in this episode that even 65 posts hasn’t found it all. 🙂 Water: Okay, fine, we can’t waste valuable story time on things like our heroes finding two gallons of pure clean water and taking a moment to load up on it and maybe make good use for a little hygiene time. That would be dull and obvious. So instead we get a minute of Carol rummaging through the trash for plastic bottles and setting up an elaborate rain-catching trap from plastic wrap and sticks. That’s much more advancing to the story line. (Especially when in a largely untouched executive building there is probably a water cooler in every other room…) Bicycles: Of course there are bicycles in this world. The bad guys stopped and moved several out of the way so their car could get through. On a route leading to the hospital. Where they’ve been for two years or so. And probably driven in and out a number of times. And have long ago cleared all the routes to and from. I guess the walkers decided to ride a little and then left the bikes scattered around like the brainless children they are. Cars: It’s a desolate world. Nothing moves but the trees in the wind and walkers. So of course you, in the second moving car in the whole state, can stay within sight of the bad guys and in some number of miles of following they never notice the car moving behind them. Or see the faces in the car that has now stopped in the road they just drove down. Cars also make a pretty distinctive sound, one that should be audible for quite a ways in this ghost world, so it should be easy to avoid things like running out in front of one, too. Shelter: Yes, of many, many buildings, let’s choose one with no decent sanitary or cooking facilities but some lovely leather chairs. And desks, should we care to sit and write a letter. Not one that might have clothes, survival items, food, water, and a place to sleep. Add in the mucho other stupid above, and the almost random flashback shots that really add nothing to the story or character or plot development, and the general sense that the runners can’t decide whether this is a post-apocalyptic world stripped of resources, an abandoned world filled with “aliens” who have no need for the plentiful human resources, or just a dusty corner of our inhabited world. I’m not sure I can watch one more ep, and I don’t think anything will get me to pay for another season. But I did like the tank. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/67 "2014-11-19T14:56:58Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > I’m not sure I can watch one more ep, and I don’t think anything will get me to pay for another season. Pay? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/68 "2014-11-19T15:10:01Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > So of course you, in the second moving car in the whole state, can stay within sight of the bad guys and in some number of miles of following they never notice the car moving behind them. One can make plausible excuses for your points, except this one. It’s really bad. ---
**Author:** ![SmellMyWort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SmellMyWort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmellMyWort)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/69 "2014-11-19T17:51:26Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Pay? I’m not sure about **AB** but I don’t get cable and TWD is the one series I pay for by the season on Amazon. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/70 "2014-11-19T18:09:41Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Pay? Cut the cable long ago. Use streaming and pay (Amazon or Vudu, if it’s not on Hulu or old enough to be on Netflix) for each show individually. I think I can wait for free/bundled seasons of WD from here on out. Was reluctant to subscribe this year and am mildly regretting I did. > [@carnivorousplant](#): > > One can make plausible excuses for your points, except this one. > It’s really bad. The water thing is pretty bad, too, and representative of the whole “wasteland in the middle of a shopping mall” mismatch. Even two years in, there should be unopened bottles of water in nearly every business, clean water in building tanks, etc. The minute spent watching Carol build her little water traps to get a few recycled bottles of water was kewl in a Survivor mode, but then treating 2-3 gallons of pure drinking water as a casual, disposable find - one or the other is complete nonsense. Multiply by every other resource in the show/show world. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/71 "2014-11-19T18:12:59Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > They were talking about the Mark Twain book, not the abuse book. Thanks. That makes more sense. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/72 "2014-11-19T18:17:14Z")
Also re water: the hospital crew likely would have stripped every resource, including that bottle of water, from the surrounding buildings by this time. Which is another facet of the resource contradictions. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/73 "2014-11-19T19:23:56Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > Shelter: Yes, of many, many buildings, let’s choose one with no decent sanitary or cooking facilities but some lovely leather chairs. And desks, should we care to sit and write a letter. Not one that might have clothes, survival items, food, water, and a place to sleep. They spent the first night in a housing shelter and the second day they wanted to reconnoiter the hospital from a nearby tall building. They weren’t interested in homesteading. ---
**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/74 "2014-11-19T19:24:13Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > I didn’t like that the van was clearly going down nose-first. Indeed, it was rotating onto its back. And yet, it landed on its wheels. The SO said, ‘Does that van have helicopter seats?’ (The seats in helicopters are designed to collapse in a hard landing.) As everyone has noticed, the van did indeed fall on to its back as shown in the [behind the scenes footage](http://www.amctv.com/the-walking-dead/videos/spoilers-making-of-episode-506-the-walking-dead-consumed). The production problem being that it also crushed the van’s cabin, which would easily have killed our heroes. Thus, the landing was changed to something the characters could survive. There’s also some interesting background showing the before and after digital shots for making ZA Atlanta. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/75 "2014-11-19T19:31:04Z")
Despit a lot of things that didn’t make sense about the falling van scene, it was worth it for the zombies that fell like smashing pumpkins, following them overboard. I guess that’s one way to take out a hoarde assuming you’d survive the stunt in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/76 "2014-11-19T19:59:12Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > Despit a lot of things that didn’t make sense about the falling van scene, it was worth it for the zombies that fell like smashing pumpkins, following them overboard. > > I guess that’s one way to take out a hoarde assuming you’d survive the stunt in the first place. I think it was the book “Day-by-Day Armageddon” that used this trick to eliminate zombie hordes - make a clear route for them to get to the top of a high building, then show up on a nearby building. The zombies then all walk off the edge of the building trying to get to you. I didn’t much like the scene of (smartly) refilling all the water bottles from the water cooler, then just taking half a cup and drinking it right away. You want to kill time with exposition? Chat while Carol fills all your water bottles. ---
**Author:** ![Drummond\_Bays](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8edcca/32.png) [@Drummond\_Bays](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drummond_Bays)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/77 "2014-11-19T20:14:11Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Yup - my husband pointed it out to me (I didn’t see it, though). > > Some good camera work, but some bad CGI work - when we get a close-up of Daryl macheteing a zombie in the face towards the end of the episode, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a faker-looking special effect on the show, including the infamous spongy zombie heads. IMNSHO, the face-eating walker from an episode or three ago was just terrible. The prosthetic work was very good but the end result looked like a rubber mask, and a boat load of corn syrup and red food colouring. I was actually taken aback by how proud of it Nicotero was on TTD. When compared to Nosferatu? Yeah, it was great, but (again IMNSHO) I’ve seen better garage-green-screen work than that. Perhaps it is the fault of HD looking too sharp? I can only speculate. ---
**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/78 "2014-11-19T20:16:53Z")
Speaking of the van scene, I thought it was exceptionally dumb to stop to search a precariously perched van on a highway with limited exit options when you already see groups of zombies approaching. Take out the zombie threat first, then you can carefully search at your leisure. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/79 "2014-11-19T20:18:03Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > …the almost random flashback shots that really add nothing to the story or character or plot development … I agree with your entire list, but, yes: the flashbacks were particularly badly handled in this episode. Very clumsy. ---
**Author:** ![Drummond\_Bays](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8edcca/32.png) [@Drummond\_Bays](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drummond_Bays)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818/80 "2014-11-19T20:24:16Z")
Too late to edit edit: Stupid me just realized you were talking about CGI. I am a stupid. Reason for double posting: I am a stupid. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-walking-dead-5-06-consumed-open-spoilers/704818.md?page=5)